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[quote name='Misdee' timestamp='1481989331' post='3196814'] I can appreciate the skills of a player like Sharay Reed, but it does nothing for me, and to be honest with you, I think it lacks the taste and maturity of the best players. Just a bit too much of everything and not enough restraint. YMMV, of course. There is no doubt the young man has exceptional ability, and each to his own! For me, it doesn't get any better than this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoDamvrfUbQ[/media] [/quote] Agreed, you can have too much bass.

[quote name='Surrpaul' timestamp='1481971026' post='3196623'] Gear4music at York. [/quote] Sadly not the North East though.

There are 5 of us in the band and If one is not happy doing a song then we dont do it. We are semi pro, we dont have to do it to earn a living so why play something you hate? We all nominate new songs, usually a youtube version of a song that we like the style and arrangement of and ask the others to have a listen. If we all agree its worth a try we agree a key and learn our parts as per the youtube video. At the first rehearsal If it sounds good we go with it and probably tweak the arrangement to suit our style. If one of us thinks its wont work we bin it. Democracy, dont you love it?

[quote name='Winny Pooh' timestamp='1481829239' post='3195566'] Interesting topic. Take Sledgehammer, awesome song, huge hit, but if it were released now, would it make it onto radio? [/quote] Good point. Sledgehammer was Gabriel"s take on the Soul sound of his youth, so he was in effect bringing the Pop of his formative years up to date.

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1481804488' post='3195267'] Don't think that was quite what the OP was asking. If Love Me Do was released today (with no knowledge of former glories) would it still reach no.17 in the charts? I'm not sure it would. Maybe Love Me Do feat. Rhianna and DJ Skanky Dick might though. [/quote] There is no way they would, cos what was cutting edge then is naive and simplistic now. One thing still going for Love me Do, especially now, is the natural energy it has. Down to live take recording back then, and It shows up the sterility of a lot of over produced stuff on the radio at the moment where the production seems to be more important than the quality of the actual song.

Most Pop music is very much of the era. Not quite so much now, I think, as Pop, as we tend to define it, has had about 60 to 65 years of history to draw on. Acts are heavily influenced by say Soul or Funk from the 70s and add a little modern twist to it. I think the further back you go in Pop history the more difficult it would be to sell that song today.

Of course. To be a band member he would have to be. Short, skinny, ugly and immortal. Oh and English. But why bother with a full time bassist when you dont have to? Also, If you consider they still call Ronnie the new boy, Its a gang of mates and not open to just anyone.

I dont think it matters, we are doomed anyway. Not long after the B****t vote I was at a festival and a guy was selling T shirts. There were three statements with tick boxes alongside them. 1. Brexit........Ticked 2. Trump as President.......Empty (Now ticked) 3. Zombie apocalypse.....Empty (So far)

Bass and backing vocals. We all help each other during load in and out, If its needed, your own gear comes first. All our roll, even though its a covers band, is to be as inventive as possible with our parts while remaining sensitive to the song and the other instruments. We try to put our own twist on songs and to Funk them up. If I think playing it dead straight serves our version of a song better then thats what I do. If a complete change helps the song work, then I do that. We look out for each other. Even if the guitarist pulls out a subtle three note motif that makes the song sound better I will let him know I liked it. We get on as mates even though we met a couple of years ago answering a band startup add. Lucky? You bet. We respect each other as musicians.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1481482748' post='3192621'] Most of the time the sound guy is still deciding what the audience hears even when you have the sound you want on stage then. [/quote] Errr, no. I just said, 99% of the time we are not mice'd up as the gigs are too small.

I thought the 802 was only 27 LB?

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1481477884' post='3192566'] Are you micing your amp up? [/quote] Nah, mate, 99% of the gigs we play are not that big. But even small festival etc I like to hear my own sound on stage even though its miced up or DI into the PA. Individual in ears must be luxury but if we were big enough to do that I would have roadies to lug the gear so it wouldn't be an issue anyway, would it?

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1480976611' post='3188735'] I prefer to have no instruments in the monitors, with all the sound of the bass from an amp behind me, but have gigged amp-less before with only a DI to FOH and it was fine.[b] I could probably do it without being able to hear myself at all,[/b] but I suppose it`s more down to monitoring for the drummer, if they need the bass or not. [/quote] Why would you want to do that, do you not enjoy the noise the band makes? Personally, my sound is my sound, and I get it from my guitar, amp and pedals. I would hate to just rely on a sound guy guessing the sound I might like the audience to hear.

Shame, the listed weight of 36 lb would put me off. I like a combo to be easy to transport and lift.

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1481389205' post='3192000'] One of the interesting things about Squire is that almost nothing he does is actually hard to play. It's just that he and his bandmates were such great writers and arrangers. His ideas were very personal and creative. [/quote] Thats the secret of greatness. His lines are not that difficult, its his note choice and unusual placement that makes the music, and he did it first

[quote name='eude' timestamp='1480948874' post='3188286'] Here's my FULL rig, but using just one of these little cabs still holds its own very well, and is extremely small/compact. Eude [/quote] Is the Mi 2.0 still available?

If the drummer is watching what you are doing, you are more than half way there

[quote name='PaulGibsonBass' timestamp='1467123489' post='3081324'] I've never really listened to Yes, and therefore know little about Chris Squire. A lot of people obviously rate him, I should probably check him out. [/quote] He was a game changer. Have a listen and prepare to be amazed. Weather you are into the genre or not his playing was a revelation if you consider how long ago,say, the Yes Album was recorded.

Cant be explained, but if it happens you will feel it instantly. And smile.

1, Chris Squire. Yes. 2. Glen Cornick. Tull. 3. John Glasscock. Tull. 4. Andy Frazer. Free 5. Robbie Breakspear. Sly and Robbie 6. Mike Rutherford. Genesis 7. Nathan East. Everyone 8. Roger Glover. Deep Purple 9. Bert Ruiter. Focus 10. Jim Lea. Slade

[quote name='bassjim' timestamp='1481299752' post='3191371'] Solution! Probably the most usable and reasonable reason for getting me near IEM . (EBS Freak ) Our drummer would complain about moving the electronic kit about. All you've done is move one problem out of the way and created a new one! [/quote] Exactly. I also play drums in a band and have learned more about dynamics, through having to rehearse in the singers big garden shed for 3 weeks, (Dont ask) than I have the other 40 years I have been drumming. Even at studio rehearsals the guitarist uses a small Fender combo and the Bassist uses the 1 x 10 from his stack. Keys through the PA. Less to carry and set up as I use the cocktail kit provided with my own breakables. I can play at talk over volume on my own kit now. If needed, and it has more effect when we do cut loose.

Do you mean the music lacks energy, or that the musicians dont move much? Huge difference. My Bro was in a covers band in Devon and they were note perfect, and as they got tighter and tighter they were very, very good. When they slackened off a bit they became brilliant. They hardly moved, but the music was more than enough. They were not afraid to leave space in the music or to take liberties with well known songs. Ease off a bit and just enjoy, its obvious to the audience when the musicians are having a good time. I agree with the above. A front man is born not made. Lots can sing but not many can entertain.

I used to play the Fool, but the family and neighbors complained so much I gave it up. My wife used to play the Virginal but I told her to pack it in as at her age it no longer made sense. I player the Devils Advocate once, but I got punched for that performance.

Beware of sound samples. How much processing have they gone through during the recording and mix. Also, how good is the system you listened to them on? Spending that sort of cash you have to hear it for yourself.

We rehearse at a volume where we can all hear what is going on and any mistake is obvious to all. Thats why we rehearse, to learn new stuff and to iron out mistakes and work up arrangements. I sometimes practice harmonies without a mic and I can hear if I am on it or not. Volume simply masks errors in a rehearsal room space.