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I sometimes use the [url="http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/site/music-plus"]creation b3ta[/url] music search service. Good for finding if other have put a particular song online, and that appears to be the case [url="http://www.thenovelsound.org/files/dance/BSDmuzzik/Stevie%20Wonder%20-%20Superstition.mp3"]here[/url].

[quote name='BassManKev' post='210967' date='Jun 2 2008, 10:19 AM']moog is a good one iv always said mooooooooooooog, but its said moag or moge[/quote] They even named a synth Moog Rogue, just to get the point across. There was a similar thread on Talkbass too, [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-311554.html"]here[/url]. Any [i]Peh-Dool-La[/i] players here?

[quote name='squire5' post='210171' date='May 31 2008, 04:44 PM']How can you say "Fender,with a capital 'F'"....."I've got 3 Fenders with capital 'F's" Like that,you mean? LOL.[/quote] No, that's not what I said. Look at where I put the quotation marks. I don't know whether you're having a laugh here, but either way you're making a different kind of point about the importance of punctuation in clear communication. Get it wrong, and the meaning is distorted.

[quote name='lee4' post='210126' date='May 31 2008, 02:34 PM']How about collective nouns?A thump of P-basses?A growl of Stingrays?[/quote] A rumble of Thunderbirds? (My all-time favourite collective noun: "a Wunch of Bankers".)

[quote name='lwtait' post='210136' date='May 31 2008, 02:49 PM']so are you saying you shouldnt say "ive got three fenders" it should be "ive got three fender basses"?[/quote] You'd say "three Fender basses", using Fender with a capital F. (A "fender" is a car part!) Sure, we know what you mean here on BC, and we can get away with slang, but if you're trying to communicate with someone outside BC, it will pay to be precise. A non-bassist might think you're talking about guitars. A non-musician would think you meant car parts, or just not get what you're trying to say.

[quote name='lwtait' post='209991' date='May 31 2008, 08:53 AM']how do you pronouce the plural of ibanez?[/quote] Like sheep: one Ibanez, many Ibanez. Strictly speaking, you wouldn't pluralise it at all. You would say e.g. "three Ibanez basses", pluralising the specific "instantiations". Ibanez is a brand name, not a tangible "thing" that you can pluralise.

Would you believe that I have never played any Fender bass? My first bass was a Hondo P-copy, and I really did not get on with the shape. The headstock dived for the ground as often as Maradona.

Something for the VCR from BBC2 : [quote]Amazing Journey: The Story of The Who Fri 30 May, 11:35 pm - 1:35 am 120mins Authorized by The Who, directed by Oscar-winning filmmaker Murray Lerner and co-directed by Paul Crowder, Amazing Journey: The Story of The Who is a powerful documentary that is the definitive audio-visual record of this legendary British rock band. Telling The Who's story, the film also explores the development of the band today, following Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey as they record The Who's first new music in more than 20 years, and travels to the Far East for their first-ever live performance in Japan. Strong language. [S][/quote]

There's also the [url="http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1921"]Flipout[/url], from Dewey Decibel (website down):

[quote name='Bassassin' post='208929' date='May 29 2008, 02:52 PM']Anyone noticed some people say "Rickenbocker", or "Rickenbarker"? Weird. And one that's always confused me is Tokai. "Toe-kay"? "Tok-eye"? However you try & say it, it sounds wrong. Academic, because if Ebay has its way with the evolution of spelling it'll soon be "Tokia". Jon.[/quote] Actually... since Rickenbacker was originally Ricken[b]bach[/b]er, "Rickenbocker" is not that far off. re Tokai, in Japanese it's written To-ka-i, so you say it in [i]three[/i] syllables, like Toh-kah-ee. (Toh sounds like "soft")

Have a listen to this: I think he's saying it somewhere between "aye-ba-knee-zu" and "i-ba-knee-zu" ("i" = a short ee sound, like the Spanish Ibáñez). If you look at the tags on that video, [b]both[/b] are given in Katakana. I'm guessing the pronunciation is not nailed down precisely - but he's still following the Katakana, not the American pronunciation. アイバニーズ = "aye-ba-knee-zu" イバニーズ "i-ba-knee-zu"

[quote name='geilerbass' post='208730' date='May 29 2008, 12:00 PM']I'd be interested to know how the Japanese say it...[/quote] That's what I kinda was getting at in my post above. I took lessons a few years ago, and the way it works in Japanese, they use that special [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana"]Katakana[/url] [i]phonetic[/i] alphabet for foreign and weird words. Katakana (like Hiragana) is strictly phonetic: you write words as close as you can get to how you actually pronounce them, not vice versa - and after that, you read them phonetically. I didn't know about the "knee" sound until I read the Katakana version from their website today. It's not "neh" as I would have expected, but I have to assume it is there for a reason i.e. they write "aye-ba-knee-zu" because that's how they pronounce it - or used to, back when the company was named. Today, I dunno, but that's what their website says, and it's not like English, where we deviate willy-nilly from phonetic pronounciation. That is why foreign words get mangled in Japanese - a Katakana version of a foreign word is still limited by the Japanese language, and there are some Western sounds that just don't exist in Japanese. The famous example being how R is the same as L, but it's generally not as bad as that "Lip My Tights!" scene from [i]Lost In Translation[/i] though. Students who take English are taught that there's a difference. edit: I wouldn't be surprised to hear Japanese people pronounce it the American way if they're dealing with Western customers, or can understand English. I was thinking of people who can't speak or read English, and have only the Katakana to go on. It's not a Japanese word anyway, so that is as close as we will get to a "native Japanese" pronounciation.

[quote name='squire5' post='208678' date='May 29 2008, 10:48 AM']Me,personally,have always pronounced as it's spelt,ie Aye-ban-ez,but lately I've heard it pronounced Ee- ban- ay.Which is right,does anyone know?[/quote] The Japanese company got their name from a brand of Spanish guitar they were importing, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Ib%C3%A1%C3%B1ez"]Salvador Ibáñez[/url]. (Ee-ba-nyeth, I think). However, Ibanez themselves write their name as アイバニーズ or a-i-ba-ni-i-zu. The closest I can get is something like aye-ba-knee-zu, but the "zu" is clipped to "z". (There is no real "z" in spoken Japanese.)

From the "Rush in Rio" DVD: Geddy: "PRS... is that something women get?" Alex: "No, it's this Penis Reduction System I need to use..."

[quote name='The Burpster' post='208264' date='May 28 2008, 06:32 PM']Oh dear, why dont you just slap me in the face? ... The 'birds in flight" inlays are not "seaguls" they are in fact 9 different birds.[/quote] SORRY! Is one of the birds an Albatross, and does it come with wafers?

Pretty sure it's a PRS Bass IV like the one [url="http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/55U-3594.htm"]here[/url], except that it's black and has the PRS "seagull" inlays. It's 2 pickups + a dummy noise-cancelling coil ([i]a la[/i] Alembic). Michael Manring played a PRS for years before he got in to Zon's graphite necks.

+1 for [b]Cliff Williams[/b] - classic minimalist style, gets the job done and then some. Ditto for [b]Frank Bello[/b] (Anthrax). When I think Metal bass, I don't usually think "flashy" - but [b]Rob Trujillo[/b] (Metallica) has been a monster for years, way back to the days of Suicidal Tendencies and Infectious Grooves:

A plainer English version of what that Rane document says about multiple paths to ground causing ground loops: A common cause of ground loops in a studio setting is having two bits of mains-powered gear, connected together in the audio path, that have different mains earths. "Different" in this context means e.g. one bit plugged in on one side of the room, the other bit getting power from the other side of the room, or more subtle problems like grounding to a rack. You can sometimes get mains current flowing between them along the [i]audio[/i] ground, because the mains earths on the two sides of the room are not equally-well earthed. (Sometimes, Earth... isn't!) In a live situation, you probably won't have that problem, and you would not want to lift ground anyway, for safety reasons. If you were sending a signal to the PA, it would be a balanced signal that wouldn't cause a ground loop.

[quote name='shaundixon666' post='206080' date='May 25 2008, 06:13 PM']I thought you had misspelled Opeth for a second there (silly me) but then off I went to youtube to have a listen. And damn you are right.[/quote] Let me head there for a gander... I thought this was a misspelling of [url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=90G0mHx3auU"]Oteil[/url]. -_-

[quote name='Oscar South' post='180991' date='Apr 20 2008, 12:56 PM']even tuning with the fifth and seventh fret harmonics, so you're tuning to identical overtones? can you elaborate on this because its interesting.[/quote] Only just seen this - let me try a quick version: When you do the 5th & 7th fret harmonic thing, you're tuning the strings to a ratio of 4:3, a perfect 4th harmonic. 5th fret harmonic = 1/4 string = 4x frequency (2 octaves) 7th fret harmonic = 1/3 string = 3x frequency (octave + major 5th) However, on an [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament"]equal temperament[/url] (ET) instrument like the bass, for the ratios to add up correctly over the strings, each string needs to be 5 ET semitones apart. That is close to a perfect 4th, but not exactly the same, in terms of the frequency ratio between the strings: Harmonics: 4:3 = 1.3333 ... = 4.98 semitones * 5 semitones: 2^(5/12) = 1.3348 ... Say you have a 6-string bass, so you do that 5 times (B1 -> C3 = 25 semitones), and compare results: Harmonics: (4/3)^5 = 4.214 = 24.9 semitones * 25 semitones: 2^(25/12)= 4.238 The error in ratios is about 0.5%, which might not sound like much, but if you convert the harmonics figure back to semitones, it comes to about 24.9 semitones*. If you follow the harmonics method exactly, the High C will be about 1/10 semitone [i]flat[/i], which is definitely audible. The error might not be much per string, but it compounds, like interest on a mortgage. On a 7-string (30 semitones), the error climbs to 0.12 semitones. ps: maybe the extreme example of a theoretical 13-string bass would help: Intervals = 12 x 5 = 60 semitones = 5 octaves between low and 5 strings. 60 semitones = 2^(60/12) = 32 = 2^5 = exactly 5 octaves harmonics: (4/3)^12 = 31.7 = 59.765 semitones*. "quick version", eh? * to convert frequency ratios back to ET semitones, the formula looks like this: 12* log2(f), where "log2" is the "base 2 logarithm of f" = 12*log(f) / log(2)

[quote name='charic' post='205431' date='May 24 2008, 10:34 AM']Why has this not been used as a weapon lol.[/quote] It would be a bit difficult to aim. Bass frequencies are notoriously non-directional, so protecting the "good guys" would be a serious challenge.

I don't have one, but I know I wouldn't mind one of these [url="http://www.cc.rim.or.jp/~tune/"]Tune[/url] TWXT models: They do 4-, 5-, 6- and 8-string basses with tremolo. If you wonder what an 8-string with whammy sounds like ask [url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=19iekoushoY"]Narucho[/url] for a demo.

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I'm sure I remember reading a John Patitucci interview in which he mentioned the superglue, but he also mentioned some kind of "instant skin" product from a pharmacy. I think he meant something like [url="http://newskinproducts.com/"]New-Skin[/url], which the maker says works for musicians.

I can't say I'm that interested in joining a union of imaginary bass players... maybe if it was real bass players?