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[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1498642216' post='3326017'] Without wanting to get into any sort of competition, this is just sublime...ff to about 1:10. It's worth it. https://youtu.be/3O72lItS4OA [/quote] One of the few times I have genuinely laughed out loud at a YouTube clip.

Not a fire but had a borrowed smoke machine stick on at a rehearsal. The idea was that it would give a quick blast as the curtains opened and we would be stood there with smoke gently moving around our ankles (a bit cheesy but was fun gig so fitted the silly atmosphere). Sadly the switch was dodgy and instead of a three second burst it just stuck on, by the time we had managed to unplug it the entire room was filled. We thought we had got away with it but about ten seconds later the alarm went off and 150 odd people had to evacuate the building. Luckily the boss of the place was very understanding once we explained what happened. Needless to say we didn't use it for the event.

Not surprised,it's a stunner.

[quote name='The59Sound' timestamp='1498492177' post='3324990'] Were there any acts that anyone liked? I smell a lot of jealousy here. Could be wrong. [/quote] I watched far too many hours, liked- almost all of it, loved - royal blood, FF, Killers, The Sherlocks, didn't like - Radiohead, very dreary, Ed, one trick pony, Biffy Clyro, usually love them but just too shouty and not at their best by a long way. I even watched ten minutes of Katy Perry!

I appreciate I may well be in the minority but I just don't get Ed Sheeran. Every song is the same old wishy washy dreary generic amble. It doesn't work for me. There have been some great sets, The Sherlocks stand out to me as one to watch, Royal Blood set the place alive and I like the Foo Fighters but appreciate they were doing what they do (what else would they do?).

Might be worth keeping an eye on eBay for second hand flight cases for other things, big keyboards, cabs, stuff like that jumps to mind. Then you could foam them out within an inch of their lives. Will be expensive to get on the plane though I think.

[quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1498419327' post='3324478'] I got it and also had the steroid shot- choosing the right doctor is critical as you're only allowed three in any one area in your lifetime I got my first from a surgeon in my wrist and it was spot on. Second in my elbow was from a visiting trainee GP - not encouraging you'd think - she was nervous but absolutely nailed it Don't rest it, keep working it gently [/quote] Not sure where you heard that but I have had more than three in several places, perhaps it was in a year? One of my knees has had seven over a ten year period (seems to like one about every 14- 16 months!). Agree on the differing quality of the people doing it. All my recent ones, except fingers, have been done with the aid of unltrasound and that seems to make a massive difference as I guess they can be that much more accurate.

I have a nasty form of inflammatory arthritis, I have had all sorts over the years including many steroid injections. They are undeniably painful but if they are too painful then you probably didn't need them. I have had them when I have been in absolute agony and know when I need them myself now. One in my spine was a bit of an ordeal BUT I had had six weeks of barely being able to walk or even move. I had the injection on a Thursday and was back in work the next Monday. Others have had less effect. Sometimes you need multiple times, I had three in a year on my shoulder and then it settled. See it as a couple of minutes pain for long term gain. There are multiple types of medication that can help as well but obviously that would be best discussed with your consultant. Gentle exercise (and help from a physio) can make a massive difference. I started playing the bass as it was a positive way to do my daily hand exercises and that has worked well. Good luck, hope it works well for you.

I can't wait to see them in Nottingham later in the year, should be a good night if Glastonbury is anything to go by.

[quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1498359279' post='3324067'] sometimes you just have to admit that nothing beats leather for such things Just remember the animal was already gonna die for it's meat, the leather is a by product.And if it wasn't killed for it's meat it never would have been born. I know this won't sit with a vegan but it's the truth. Is anyone making hemp straps? [/quote] I am not vegan so can't speak for all vegans by any stretch but I think the issue is the fact that animals are bred, kept in often poor conditions and then killed in often inhumane ways just to put a steak on the table so to speak. I don't think many vegans would see the short lives they have as an offset for this hence the veganism. It doesn't sit well with most meat eaters, but it's the truth (speaking from meat eating point of view it sits badly with me which is why I am careful where I source food and eat meat sparingly - I am just a crap vegetarian really). Another vote for couchstraps- https://www.couchguitarstraps.com/guitar-straps/seat-belt-and-woven-guitar-straps/all-plain-black-vegan-strap-guitar.html They are very good but not sure if they will send direct to the UK, I picked up a couple when I was over there visiting last year.

[quote name='johnnylager' timestamp='1498380153' post='3324125'] Can't listen to them since the quack played them during my last colonoscopy. [/quote] I hope it wasn't 'are you getting the best, the best, the best, the best of me......'

I loved the set personally, I am not a massive fan (don't have any of their albums) but have always liked them. DG knows how to engage with a crowd unlike some who seem oblivious to the fact that anyone is watching them. It's never the same watching at home, you just don't get any atmosphere.

I have even run a mig welder off mine :-) you can hear it dip and then pick up (the spot welder is too much for it though), a bass rig is a lot less on a pull on a genny than most people think.

[quote name='Grassie' timestamp='1498337680' post='3323974'] I disagree a little. His voice is better than it was in the latter years of Oasis, but his backing band are pretty average and was it just me or was he reading the lyrics of an autocue? [/quote] Really? He was worse before? I am genuinely shocked. I thought he was reading it but dismissed it on the grounds 'he couldn't be'. He seemed to be a bit out of it in the interview afterwards. Foo fighters are awesome as always though.

I have done it a couple of times with a 500w rig and smaller generator than that with no issues.

Just watching the Glastonbury coverage and Liam Gallagher is just terrible. I have to admit I was not a big oasis fan but they were ok pop songs for their time, but tonight he is just not there. He is 'singing' as though he has never heard the song before.

[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1498326677' post='3323905'] Agreed, playing music was never mass market. But I think fewer kids today dream of being a rock star. [/quote] I think as many dream of it but fewer are prepared to put in the required effort, hence the popularity of programs such as X factor.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1498262021' post='3323563'] Several good points here. I remember when we were 16, 17 years old crowding into The Filmore East to see all the great underground rock bands of the era. Now young people are completely disconnected from the rock I know and love. Must be the way my Dad felt when he realized big bands were never going to make a come back. Blue [/quote] The odd thing is that if you put a Queen song in the kids all know it, if you put some chart stuff on from ten years ago they haven't got a clue. I don't think kids are disconnected around here at all. I was in a minority growing up as I was into the sex pistols and iron maiden when my mates were listening to Duran Duran, nothing much has changed from what I can see.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1498252988' post='3323497'] Are they interested in live music or the electric guitar? Blue [/quote] Very much both, we have two bands and about a dozen more individuals. The bands are both five piece in traditional line up of drums, bass, 2x six string and vocalist. The dozen individuals are four bass players, seven six stringers and another vocalist, no more drummers mostly due to lack of spare kit. We have to limit numbers, we could have more kids but couldn't fit them all out with equipment but are gradually building stuff up. We alternate over two days as it is. Both bands were involved in a charity event locally on Thursday and played short sets. All of them are 12-15 years old. Locally the live music scene is very active, a lot of covers bands but a lot of young originals bands as well. The non mainstream music around here is split between dance (non guitar) and rock/ alternative (guitar based) ,apologies for the simplification, and is biased very heavily in favour of the rock/ alternative. Most of the dance stuff seems to be geeks in their bedrooms on an iPad.

Just why?

Nah, they just last a long time. There may be an issue with some youngsters wanting quick and easy game style satisfaction but the club I help run for kids is one small example of how kids are still getting involved in live music. The Internet also makes learning a hell of a lot easier than it used to be,

Nope, if I don't like it I don't buy it. There are very few bands where I have everything they have done and then it's usually because didn't do very much!

Mine just fits across the back seat of an old 3 series estate, but it's not a Gibson case. It won't fit in the boot with the seats up whereas the Fender one will on a diagonal.

So far: Don't look back in anger I can't explain - The Who Bad Moon Rising Two princes All the small things Mollys lips It was only a short after work practice so well pleased with those, have a good few more to go at next week and all set for the weekend after. Thanks everyone!