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[quote name='Hooch' timestamp='1490210470' post='3263314'] Some thoughts on Lakland Bob Glaub sig may be useful there. Got a japanese Shoreline one, neck is wider than the C-shaped 66 Fender i had. 44mm for sure, maybe more, with a really comfy C shape, close to vintage Ps. I guess Skyline series may tick these boxes too, plus being easier to find and a tad cheaper. [/quote] Thanks - I shall check them out

You lot aren't helping now! I will need to try a 50's (roadworn or not), and a Squier JV, and possibly some of the other early 80's US ones as they too seem to have a 1.75" neck. Failing that, it's a limelight or get the friendly body and neck builder to do a standard P with a wide neck for me. Which means buying more cans of nitro.. I have about 20 in the garage waiting to dispose of already........ This is the latest project btw:

[quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1490201092' post='3263201'] The Harris model weighs as much as an anchor too. Harris was my first real bass hero when I started playing in the 1980s and I'd love his sig model - but with some of them hitting 12lb. No chance. [/quote] Yeah, that would make my '64 P at 8lb 3oz feel like a hollow body... Gah. Reckon I will have to go maple neck. At least I'd spot which one is which when they are hung up on the wall!! Might put an ad in the WTB section.. will look a bit odd tho, asking for any Fender P of any description as long as it's cheap and has a 44.5mm neck

All - thanks for the comments.. I'm actually in the middle of putting together a '52 style precision partsobass - it's a 41.3mm neck so it will be an interesting comparison - being single coil tho, I don't want to rely on it for gigging, but I might get the guy who made the bits to do a 44.5mm neck for it.. In truth, I wanted a ready made job so it's quick and easy. The wide neck is a little odd at first - but I just find it so easy to get about on it and the space is really liberating - my fingers don't fall down the gaps, rather it allows them a bit of movement, and you can bend/vibrato a lot easier. If I can track one down, I'd like to try a 50's Mex to see how it compares and stacks up. The Pino looks great, as does the Steve Harris - but again, both lots of ££!

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1490197167' post='3263152'] Interested in the dates you cited earlier, my '71 Precision definitely has a B neck as opposed to a C. In any case, it's not quite a 'cheap' alternative, but the '63 American Vintage fits the bill (if you're looking for it to 'be a Fender'), plus likely to be quite similar to your '64: [url="http://shop.fender.com/en-GB/electric-basses/precision-bass/american-vintage-%2763-precision-bass/0191010800.html#prefn1=refinement-body-shape&prefn2=series&prefv1=Precision+Bass&prefv2=American+Vintage&cgidx=electric-basses&start=1"]http://shop.fender.c...-basses&start=1[/url] If not, another vote for an appropriately spec'd JV Squier Si [/quote] Meant to say - the AV 63 would be a great choice - but quite *cough* steep at nearly 1900 notes new.. I'm being disciplined in not spending too much, as I don't want it to end up being another 'nice' bass that I molly coddle and wrap in blankets, only to not then take it out to those rainy, mud infested sleep under canvas beer-filled festivals!

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1490197167' post='3263152'] Interested in the dates you cited earlier, my '71 Precision definitely has a B neck as opposed to a C. In any case, it's not quite a 'cheap' alternative, but the '63 American Vintage fits the bill (if you're looking for it to 'be a Fender'), plus likely to be quite similar to your '64: [url="http://shop.fender.com/en-GB/electric-basses/precision-bass/american-vintage-%2763-precision-bass/0191010800.html#prefn1=refinement-body-shape&prefn2=series&prefv1=Precision+Bass&prefv2=American+Vintage&cgidx=electric-basses&start=1"]http://shop.fender.c...-basses&start=1[/url] If not, another vote for an appropriately spec'd JV Squier Si [/quote] Your '71 may well be a B - The B became standard in '73 (IIRC) but B necks would have been available before then..

[quote name='fftc' timestamp='1490191568' post='3263076'] I know you would prefer rosewood but this just popped up on fb. [url="https://www.facebook.com/groups/689090051102626/permalink/1461682280510062/?sale_post_id=1461682280510062"]https://www.facebook...461682280510062[/url] [/quote] I'm beginning to think I need to consider maple as well

[quote name='Lw.' timestamp='1490182165' post='3262904'] Vintage. The JV Squires were made at a time when Fenders main output perhaps wasn't at their best so the JV Squires were a good option for the vintage Fender sound/feel - IMO they're not as nice as true vintage Fenders & aren't as good as some of the the vintage re-issues that Fender are putting out now but they're potentially better than a lot of basses Fender were putting out in the 80's/90's. A good option if you can get one for a decent price - up to you to decide what a decent price is, some owners are a little optimistic though. [/quote] Thanks for the info - I will have to have a look around to see what the going rates are for them. It's a shame there isn't a new alternative (so I can go try them out) with a relatively low price!

How do the JV Squiers sound? Are they more vintage or modern sounding? (I guess I'm asking what's the output of the pups?)

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1490176448' post='3262799'] Could get more difficult now they're cracking down on RW usage too! [/quote] Very true. I suspect I will be keeping my eye out for something used. The JV Squier is a good shout - and it looks like the circa. '83 Fenders were also 44.5 (standards and elites)

No the 64 will get played - at home, recorded, gigged. However, there will be some situations where I wouldn't want to take it - like a festival for instance - not sure I like the idea of it stuffed in the boot for hours on end or overnight, and would be worried about rain, heat, mud, etc. Probably and extreme example. I wasn't necessarily referring to a rougher gig as the clientele but the environment! Having said that, a good thwack from a Precision would be as good as a 59 burst I reckon - more length to swing and build up momentum.

Limelight is an option, I guess. Or I could go find a 50's RW to try and see if I like the maple. It's not like I'm totally maple averse with a '74 P with maple FB, and a Stingray with maple FB as well Still seems odd to me that there isn't at least one squier or cheaper mexican option with 1.75"

Yeah - been doing a bit of research and I might be out of luck. So I'm after a rosewood C Neck (that's width not profile, confusingly!) The C neck is 1.75" (44.5mm) at the nut and was standard on Precisions up to '73. From '73 the B Neck became standard - 1.625" (41.3mm) as it is mostly today. The reissues seem to have the period correct 1.75" but are typically Maple not Rosewood - unless you go Custom Shop. In fact, I saw a CS 50th Anniv. 1964 P for sale recently - sunburst as well, but it's far too many ££ for a knock-about rough gigging bass... Looks to be hard to find a RW board 1.75" neck on anything below say, £800.

Meant to say - I think I would prefer a Rosewood board..

The neck on my '64 Precision is 44.5mm - and having spent a lot more time on it I'm realising I really do like the width. Now I'm not going to take it out to every gig out there - even tho it is insured, so I'm looking for a cheap gigging alternative. Can you suggest a cheap precision with a vintage-ish sound with a neck width of more than 44mn at the nut?

[quote name='geoffbyrne' timestamp='1489849582' post='3260320'] Surely it's not beyond the wit of some UK manufacturer to produce shims equivalent to StewMac's? And at a reasonable cost, too. G. [/quote] Presumably the margins are very slim? (Ha ha)

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1489843398' post='3260265'] I've mentioned this before and it upset some owners but most musicman basses come with a factory shim made of plastic, at the same time I've never heard of one having the ski jump neck issue, then they do have six bolts spread across a larger area than fenders. [/quote] Dunno if 6 bolts makes a difference, but it might. To be fair most 70s Fenders came with a factory shim. I guess I'm reluctant to shove a bit of old plastic in the neck pocket when I can get one that fits and is made out of a decent tonewood. Placebo? Maybe. To me it's noticeable. For the sake of 10 quid I think it can't do any harm.

[quote name='MoonBassAlpha' timestamp='1489837743' post='3260199'] I've never noticed any difference in sound or sustain using a shim of card, on either basses or guitars. [/quote] I definitely have. And I've played a few old ones with a shim that have had a definite ski jump above the 14th fret..

[quote name='tonyquipment' timestamp='1489788634' post='3259967'] I used an old credit or membership card. Cut that down and shimmed using that. Worked alright for me and cost nothing 😁 [/quote] The issue is that all of the neck plate doesn't contact the whole length of the pocket. There's a step. As the wood is under tension via the screws it can warp a bit over time. Some say you lose a bit of sustain at the same time. It's not definitive, but it is a risk. And losing some sustain is certainly possible - after all why have through necks at all?

[quote name='chrisanthony1211' timestamp='1489786527' post='3259943'] I find set up with TI flats particularly troublesome, almost not enough tension to get the relief I want even with the truss fully loosened off, great sounding string though. [/quote] I have that issue on my 74 P a bit - it seems to prefer Chromes. The 64 P is def. under truss rod tension with the TIs, but it seems to be really straight naturally. It's an odd one, for sure, some basses suit low tension, some don't..

[quote name='ThePapabull' timestamp='1489783526' post='3259897'] Thanks all...... I had to make a decision and I,ve gone with the TI's from Strings Direct. said it earlier but this forum is brilliant ..... really appreciate everyones contributions ...... However I know feel the (real) need to start a new string related topic....... [/quote] You'll love them. Don't forget you may need to tweak the truss rod with lower tension strings as you may get a slight back bow with the TIs..

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1489762099' post='3259616'] Cheers [/quote] You're welcome

Here you go: http://www.stewmac.com/Materials_and_Supplies/Bodies_and_Necks_and_Wood/Electric_Bass_Bodies_and_Necks_and_Wood/Bass_Necks/StewMac_Neck_Shims_for_Bass.html

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1489761160' post='3259594'] I have a similar problem with my MIM Fender Geddy Lee Jazz, so these suggestions are useful. Where would one get these shims of which you speak? [/quote] Stewmac in the US. They have a shipping to the uk deal on at the moment.