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Genuine 600w RMS? Or is it....?

Spalding - not far at all.

I’m just up the road from you. If you need any specific purchasing help/want to try stuff out, then give me a shout

I’ll shut up then

I’m allergic to bananas and I still like yellow

I was specifically referencing this one. More specifically the fact that at least 2 U.K. retailers have the power listed as 2000w RMS despite the manual saying 2000w Peak. I don’t recall any other amp product I’ve come across with a similar discrepancy.

Damn it and it’s good sounding, loud enough, reliable ability to cut through the mix!

You don’t notice when you are in front of it, facing away towards the audience

So what do I think? I’ve put some TI’s on it. I was going to put Chromes on but decided to try TIs first. Didn’t have to tweak the rod (phew - no cracked necks ) It’s the lowest action I’ve had on a bass. It’s sitting at just over a mm on the B and about .7 on the G. Very very little fret buzz at all until you dig in (with fingers) which I would expect. Cor. Never thought it would sit this low action wise and be as playable. It sounds very P bass, as expected - and I have a bass with the p-retro Preamp in so knew exactly what to expect. As for fives - a bit like the fretless, I’ve realised I’m just not adventurous in my playing and trying stuff as I should be - feels natural and easy to get on with and I reckon after an hour or so it will be second nature. Should have got one ages ago - go figure. Alan really has surpassed himself. Love the body shape, the neck is astonishingly good and it’s the sort of fit and finish that you expect at the very highest price point. Sorry @CameronJ but I doubt this one is going anywhere fast.. Been in two minds about an ACG and wondered if they are worth going for? Don’t hesitate at all. They are simply sublime.

It’s arrived. Beauty shots will have to wait till it’s actually light outside when I’m home.. but just in case you don’t believe me

I think the fact that the manual is the only place, and most retailer listings or ads don’t state RMS or Peak is the cause of the consternation. Each time I see a retailer listing saying “x Watts RMS” my initial reaction isn’t “better check the manual as they could be lying”

I meant the fact that Bugera don’t state RMS is irrelevant to the point I was making, which was simply that even the Retailers are confused.

Irrelevant. We buy from retailers. They should list the power rating correctly - and Bugera should correct them if wrong.

Just a shame the retailers selling it for them can’t repeat that info and list it as RMS instead.

Lol - shame Rimmers didn’t read the manual you linked to 🤣

You made me go look. And the product page on Rimmers Music for the mosfet version says this: Includes: 5 Year Guarantee Low Rate Finance Options Available Price Promise - We won't be beaten! Part Exchange Welcome - call or email your details for a great deal Bugera VEYRON MOSFET BV1001M Ultra-Compact 2,000-Watt Class-D Bass Amplifier The BUGERA VEYRON MOSFET satisfies your need for the utmost in unbridled horsepower. An ultra-compact and stylish bass amplifier, the impressive VEYRON MOSFET packs an incredible 2,000 Watts of lightweight, Class-D power under the hood ? with plenty of room left over for some amazing features. Inside you?ll find an exceptionally warm high-voltage MOSFET preamp, an expressively dynamic compressor, as well as our DYNAMIZER technology that really packs a punch! Together with a versatile and wide-ranging EQ section, an integral balanced DI, dedicated FX Loop and more, the VEYRON MOSFET will see you through every level of your playing career ? from the practice room to the stadium! Bugera VEYRON MOSFET BV1001M Ultra-Compact 2,000-Watt Class-D Bass Amplifier||Ultra-high power, ultra-lightweight 2,000-Watt bass amplifier driven by classic MOSFET technology||2 parallel speaker output connectors (compatible with Neutrik Speakon)||Revolutionary Class-D amplifier technology for incredible power and sonic performance||Dedicated Bass, Mid and Treble controls for ultimate sound shaping||Balanced DI output with pre/post EQ routing for direct connection to your mixing console||Switchable Tuner Out works either as tuner connection or live monitor feed ||1003 Depth (mm) 275||2222 Display Footprint (mm) 130x336x411||1393 Gross Weight (Packaged) (kg) 3.9||1528 Gross weight outer carton (kg) 12.4||1494 Height (mm) 80||2226 Item priced per 1||1719 Net weight (kg) 3||1527 Outer box (HxWxD mm) 437x354x412||2225 Outer box quantity 3||1396 Packaged dimensions (HxWxD mm) 130x336x411||2224 Packaging Picture Boxed||2219 Paper weight (kg) 0.45||2220 Plastic weight (kg) 0.45||1318 Product Dimensions (mm) 80x290x275||1520 Product EAN 4033653111157||1666 Supplier Ref. 000-B1M||2223 Transport dimensions (mm) 130x336x411||1414 Width (mm) 290||1001 Colour Grey||1663 Power RMS (W) 2,000 Notice that last bit there - Power RMS (W) 2,000 Heres the link to the page https://www.rimmersmusic.co.uk/bugera-veyron-mosfet-bv1001m-ultra-compact-2-000-watt-class-d-bass-amplifier-p33790 Maybe the T is different I thought. Nope. Same 2000w RMS. Hhmmmmmm

I know I’ve questioned the watts in this thread a bit - but, your point really is the only important one - if it works and it sounds good then that’s all that matters.

I must be sensitive to it *shrugs*

Whoah! That’s a WHOPPER!! Look at how big it is compared to that house.. Is it 34 foot scale?!

No, but you will eventually “feel” about 10ms of latency.

Yes, but like anything it’s about context - there’s so much going on in a band scenario that you probably wouldn’t notice 1ms latency in a decent tight band. You’ll be listening more to the drummer than your own playing - and of course their latency will increase with distance just the same (speed of sound innit) Like I said, it only really makes a difference when you have some really accurate timing to hold down, or if you are recording, as your DAW chain will often have built in latency already.

I know this is over simplifying and people will grumble, but effectively an FRFR cab is a (fuller range) cab with a built in power amp..

Whilst I agree, to an extent with this, the thing is that the 0.8ms latency won’t be the total latency you hear. As humans, we start to perceive latency at around 9/10 ms or so.. So, take the 8ms and stand 4 feet from your amp and you are at around about 12ms - Which is noticeable. (Well I think it is - you can “feel” it rather than “hear” it..)

(Just for clarity, my “effectively zero” is about 0.03ms I reckon, assuming that the cable is pretty efficient and the signal is close to SOL)