They were all phenomenally talented. Back in the late 70s I was the bass player at a trad jazz jam, at a pub in Portsmouth on a Sunday lunchtime. Afterwards a big band met (it was just a rehearsal band, playing the usual big band arrangements), I played bass in that (along with my late father on tenor). The lead trumpet player was brother Terry. He was, also, an amazing musician - and his day job was as a street cleaner in Portsmouth.