Steve Browning

Hold on, you're not Mick Mason are you? He's also an unapologetic fraudster.

Of course they will. Well done, you're a criminal mastermind.

There is a £39 limit on gifts it turns out. Your wheeze won't work. HMRC know the value of stuff. Some of them are even bass players. It's infuriating but inevitable.

No problem and other people have also contributed. It's all going to be difficult to begin with. Carrier business have had little practical guidance and HMRC are nowhere near ready. It's going to be very messy. The biggest difference will be in second hand stuff. That is now subject to VAT where it wasn't before. New gear from businesses will cost more but not necessarily a huge amount.

It's still fraud. No other word for it.

No business will agree to that, it's fraud.

My reading is that GB exports to NI and vice versa. Guidance was issued just yesterday. Check the buying from EU sellers thread. The last few posts address this.

Not sure how many music shops operate the scheme.

There are a number of margin schemes for different businesses, from antiques to holidays. The everyday evidence of this is when you buy a car and trade in your old one. There is specific wording on the invoice. Gareth beat me to it!

They come with a padded gig bag. There is a footswitch that will handle the channel switching if you want to do it on the fly. There wasn't a 2x15 when I got my cabs but they're a great pair.

The table of cab impedances and amp settings is particularly welcome I expect.

...; and so it begins.

UIK businesses with significant EU activity are going to be seriously affected for some considerable time, it's a plain and simple fact. The company I work for is a multi-national (but UK based) we will be pretty much cutting the UK adrift and maintaining an EU subsidiary to deal with any EU trade (of which there is €millions). We already have subsidiaries in a number of EU countries but I have nothing but sympathy for your friend. Our head of logistics has just tested positive for covid, too, just to add spice to the mix!!

I sit corrected.

For Thomann maybe (and at the moment). Not every site is the same. No need to be quite so aggressive about it. Actually, Thomann won't maintain their UK registration as it's a result of distance selling and that only affects the EU. Shall I underline that?

Plucked out of the air to give a comparison, hence it was the same in both examples. Import VAT is charged on the delivery cost too.

That is distance selling. It is an EU thing so Thomann will no longer have a UK registration (eventually).

Yes. I suspect there are some corpses revolving at a much faster rate and a good few have slowed down!! 🙂

Buying from Thomann, from the UK will result in a VAT free sale from Thomann. Your bill from HMRC (before they release your goods to you) is 20% UK VAT on the combined cost of the goods plus any shipping charge. There will be a small additional charge for providing this facility. Let's take an example - a £300 bass (net of any VAT). £300 + £25 delivery = £325 + £65 VAT plus £10 (at a guess) for using the facility. Your £300 bass is now £400 Before Brexit you would have paid £300 + £60 (UK VAT) + £25 delivery = £385.

I read this to mean that NI buyers will be charged 20% UK VAT. The second sentence suggests it works in reverse too. I believe (note the believe) that the minimising business impacts refers to a VAT registered business being able to use postponed accounting (charging the VAT themselves and claiming it back). Private individuals do not have this facility.

This was also released yesterday (by HMRC). Under the obligations in the Protocol, import VAT will be due on goods that enter Northern Ireland from Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales). The same will also broadly apply to goods entering Great Britain from Northern Ireland. However, existing flexibilities within the EU VAT rules have been used to ensure that the Government priority to minimise business impacts is met. In particular, Articles 201 and 211 of Directive 2006/112/EC mean that it is for the UK Government to determine important practical details as to how this will operate. Our approach will preserve the integrity of both the UK and EU single markets.

This was released yesterday - note the second bullet point. I believe that you will be treated as exporting the goods to NI. This was always the fear. his is the advice to carriers - who are the people moving your bass from the rest of the UK to your buyer in NI. Let me lo9ok further to see what it might mean for an NI buyer. From 1 January 2021 you need a goods movement reference to move goods from: the EU to Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales - for transit movements only Great Britain to Northern Ireland You may need to use a goods movement reference for Northern Ireland to Great Britain movements (for example a transit movement). This is a new requirement at ports using the Goods Vehicle Movement Service. You will not be able to move goods without a goods movement reference and you may face delays at the port. This service brings together multiple declaration reference numbers into a single goods movement reference. This is to speed up the clearance of goods through customs.

The frank answer is no, I don't. I will investigate. My hunch is it'll be a nightmare. Many businesses have suspended sales to NI because it is so unclear.

Congratulations on a great job.

The charge you pay is the fee for Royal Mail to pay the VAT on your behalf. Not too bad against the hassle of arranging the paperwork and not having your stuff stuck at Dover until you pay it.