Misowaki

Do it! I love my pf20 and that's plenty loud with 2 cabs. Would've gone for the 50 but already got the pf500.

Do it!

Given that it was a record label, I'd be willing to put money on saying it was/still is a record label.

But Motown's a record label that put out loads of some, if not most of the most widely recognised Soul music regardless of whichever exceedingly specific boxes people like to use... You know what, to paraphrase you, horses for courses. I'm gonna leave it there.

Uhh... Just... wait, it's gonna take me a long time to get my head around this one...

I feel like I'm poking the bear here but what then do you make of James Brown as the 'Godfather of Soul'? He was known more for his funk years than his crooning early days but still gets the title. For me, it's always been Otis. Otis, via Michael Jackson, got me into music in general. Natural progressions and that led me to where I am now but seems a bit like taking a dump on a recently deceased indisputable legend for the sake of opinion. It's a meaningless title really, a sales pitch, but she is quite easily one of the most influential artists of all time and if musical monarchy is decided by the people, she's easily the queen. Never mind that she was making music a decade before Anita (not to discredit here, I consciously know but one of her songs). Almost akin to calling Charles Bradley or Sharon Jones the king/queen of soul when they passed. Charles Bradley is the only artist that I've literally cried (emooooooo) every time I've seen him, live or on video ffs. That makes him the king of my soul but what does that mean to anyone else? About as much as the rest of this rambling message, probably.

Just want to say, Paul is a great teacher. He taught me at ACM many moons ago and I've returned for private lessons to fill the gaps in my knowledge. I point vaguely in the direction of what I want to improve, he has it all laid out on a plate waiting for me. I digress with something vaguely related, he ties it all back up. Couldn't recommend him enough.

My 20 through the pf210he and a pf115lf sounds mammoth in my bedroom... reckon it would more than hold its own in a rehearsal at least so don't see why the 50 wouldn't work for smaller gigs with no pa support.

Should anyone want to comission or build their own...

They say 7-10 days normally but previously they've come within the week.

Stoked for you, man. Glad they came through and you got it sorted. Swan were really decent too, I did them a sketch with all the dimensions and they've now got them on the site to order. Nice enough to give me a discount for the sketch too! Link here for anyone interested. https://www.swanflight.com/ampeg-pf-20t-head-flightcase.html

As far as I'm aware, no official case exists. I guess they assume yo'll be buying the PF115HE? Found a pic that doesn't have the central strut the 210HE has so that probably answers my earlier question. Castle cases do what I assume you mean by a box case https://www.castlecases.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=183_26_76&product_id=1901 Cage is pretty sturdy on the head and I imagine case manufacturers would have some decent hard foam shaped around the protruding bits to keep it snug (any Swan cases I've had have done a pretty decent job of that kind of thing). Swan have asked for the exact dimensions because of its weird shape so it seems they're taking that into account.

Just an FYI for anyone considering the PF 20/50T: if you have a fliptop cab (specifically the 210HE at least), the head won't fit inside the cab so you'l need a case for it (got a quote from Swan for about £106). I don't know if they changed this with the newer cabs? Would've thought that given it's modelled on the B15 they would have made it so the tube head can fit inside the cab 🤷‍♂️ Maybe it's different with the 115? Also, annoyingly, the PF20T won't sit atop the 210HE because of the handle... so it's either flip the lid and put PF20 on PF500 or just use the 115. Or actually... if you have a detachable lid case, flip that and put head on top of that. That should work, I hope.

Dunno mate, I cranked mine and the volume peaked at about 2 o'clock but no crackle. Through both my cabs (remember to flick the ohms switch, kids!) with volume and gain at about 1 O'clock it was brown-sound worthy. Not for volume per se but richness. Like the learned wisdom of one who has lived 'it' vs the brash power of the one who believes 'it' can be bought about by sexy force (the PF-500). Reading that back I'm not sure that makes much sense but I'm sticking by it...

It can get pretty loud through both my cabs too, not quite comparable to the PF-500 but holy feckballs, if it doesn't sound delightful! I'm thinking about the potential of using it as a preamp for the PF-500 🤔

Yeah man, mine's perfect so you must have just had crappy luck with the 1st

Glad it's getting sorted. Mine arrived today and have to say, it's perfect! Reached straight for that '74 P w/ flats, instant joy! Happy New Tube Amp Day to us all!

Sage advice. Same here =D I hear you but maybe you can blag a bigger discount or an extra set of tubes which will save you money down the line? Or maybe I'm just too much of an opportunist and need to stop trying to work every angle haha But that said, if it were mine and I didn't try reseat the tube and sent it back losing £15 for the pleasure to find out that's all it was, I'd be kicking myself. I'd probably make a video of the fault, when they inevitably suggest reseating, tell them I'm not comfortable doing it because the manual says get a qualified tech to do it (bonus point!) "and I don't want to void any warranty or ruin anything by attempting reseating, but I don't want to return it so I'm in a pickle here..." Surely they'd send some new tubes quick sharp because they'd rather that than deal with a return... or maybe this is just the point where my mind does the GAS equivalent of the infamous "I'm here to fix your pipes" blue movie scene...

Hmm... I'm no expert but that definitely sounds like tubes to me. Scratchy with no volume gain would suggest something going on with the power amp tube, no? Maybe they can send you some new tubes first on the guarantee that they will accept the return if it doesn't fix the issue?

Fair enough, man. Well mine's coming tomorrow so I guess I'll let you know how I get on with it too. Fingers crossed, eh?

They've got 9.8 on Trustpilot out of 945 reviews, could be an honest mistake.

Eeesh, guess we know who you're calling first thing in the morning... wish me luck with mine!