Bluewine

I know the feeling. Generally Private Events are not a great match for rock and blues bar bands. Blue

I meant the UK and the USA are different from each other when it comes to tipping, to a degree. Blue

Good Lord that seems like a lot of money. What was Bad Company playing at the time, all large arena shows? Blue

Great commentary on why it's so difficult to make it. Let's Talk About It Blue

Over here the food is overpriced then you pay a tip on top of that. Not leaving a tip is like not paying your bill. However we also know the waitress is paid about $2.00 an hour. At a high end restaurant on a good night a waitress can walk out with $300.00 in tips no problem. Blue

That sounds right. In the clip they said a Bon Jovi package might be $350,000. After agent fees, trucks, management, and all production cost are paid there might be $100, 000.00 left. Band members might get $5,000.000 and Jon gets $85,000.00 I'd gladly take 5 grand for playing a little over an hour. Blue

It sold out before I could get a ticket. Blue

That does seem low forJohn Mayall. But I doubt John is getting Jon Bon Jovi money. Blue

My take away, if your on tour with a major star playing 20,000 seaters the deals for side men is still awesome. $5,000.00 for playing 1.5 hours is still crazy money after taxes where I come from. My other take away, how do you make any money as a sideman if your on tour playing 100 seats in small clubs. For example John Mayall played our Shank Hall here in Milwaukee last year. Shank Hall is not a "Hall" it a small bar. How much could his guys been paid. What kind of package can John sell. He sold out,@ $20.00 bucks a head, but Shank can barely hold 100 people. Blue

I found this clip and I've always been interested in this topic. Hope I'm not the only one, so I thought I'd share it. Let's Talk About It. Blue

I've only seen it once, a good DJ is hard to beat. They can play anything and any genre from any time period. And they sound just like the original recordings everytime.😁 Blue

A good wedding band? We're not a wedding band, we're a bar band and that's all we'll ever be. And in this case the people hirering us for the private event did it based on seeing us in action in a bar. They're not musicians and don't understand that a bar show does not necessarily transend to the private event stage. And I've seen good DJ keep a dance floor packed from 8::00 all the till 1:00. Nothing beats live music,agreed, however only when it's the right kind of live music and appropriate for the event. Blue

Does this make any sense. A buddy of mine to me the history of tipping in the USA has roots in slavery. Since slaves weren't paid for their labor some people in order seen more enlightened and superior to other would tip slaves. Is that possible, seems highly unlikely to me Blue

Nice! Interesting, I go to Starbucks everyday and the tip jar at the point of sale is always full. Huge tip culture at Starbucks. They teach those young ladies to be so nice to you, you feel guilty if you don't tip. Blue

"Close" not immensely close. Plus it's IMO. Blue

Remember I said " close" which is relative. Blue

It's amazing how a fan of a band doesn't get that there's a high probability their guests will not share their appreciation. And we have tried to educate some of these folks their guests are probably more interested in the food and socializing And while we know how these events can be a disaster it's hard to turn down the money. Blue

I'd venture to say in the States bands at weddings are slowly becoming a thing of the past. DJs are more effective IMO and cheaper. Blue

Yeah completely different over here. I recently found out from a woman whose daughter cuts hair if a guy gets a $14 00 haircut they get angry if you tip less than $5.00. Say your shopping and you buy a big flat screen TV and an employee from the store helps you get the TV into your car, they expect to be tipped. I was in NYC a long time ago and remember seeing a cab driver get out of his cab after he had let his passenger out. And threw a coin at him and said " keep your flipping quarter". So yeah tipping is no joke over here. Our tip jar is always on the merch table. When a gig is hot it's not unusual to see people dropping 5s, 10s, even 20s into the tip jar. Punters will at some gigs pick up the tip jar and pass it around the room. Now these are bar gigs, at private events we do not employ the tip jar. Once a couple cane in and tipped everybody in the band including our sound tech $100.00 a piece. Here's the real kicker, a few months later they came to another gig and did the same thing. I wonder how we became a society where tipping is expected for so many services. And why it's frowned on in the UK? Blue

Isn't the 12 really more like a 4 than a 5 or 6 string. It's still EADG. I look at it as a 4 . I'd really like to own a White Falcon 12 one day. Blue Blue

You can doubt it, however I'm maintaing my position. I can get pretty close to Tom's sound. Blue

I travel with 2 bass guitars, a pedal board 2 750 watt GK Heads ( one is a backup and stays in my car ) and that's about it. Cables, batteries and other misc stuff fits fine in my guitar case and pedal board soft case. Blue

I think Tom Petterson commissioned Hammer for his 12 string bass back in the 70s. I'm pretty sure he mentioned it in the right run down clip. Blue

For my part, I put BR above the others. He was way ahead of his time who's abilty backed up his mouth. Blue