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[quote name='Happy Jack' post='702514' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:05 AM']Intriguingly, that's the first mention in this thread of covers. All the bands I've played in were/are strictly covers, no original stuff at all, so there's already a bassline to be played. As long as I play either what was on the original track or something that does the same job, I get no grief from the rest of the band. The tricky stuff tends to be where it's impossible to replicate the original. For example, the bassline to [i]Long Train Running[/i] is dead simple and surprisingly slow, but in the original mix it's augmented by all sorts of other stuff going on (chiefly percussion) which makes it sound/feel both faster and much funkier than it actually is. It's not uncommon to get a guitarist saying "That's not how it sounds when the Doobies play it".[/quote] For us, it's a bit more complicated in that we are a covers band but we don't always do the song as the original.. If the song has a very recognisable bassline then of course, we replicate that. But in many instances, we are making sure that the song works within the context of our band.. We always have respect for a well-known song but also want to let the individual abilities of the band shine through whenever possible. For example, we would never normally do 'Sweet Home Alabama' as we're not really a Rock/Blues type covers band.. But we decided to try it as we imagined U2 would do it..so that's what we did and it works great! We also do 'Tainted Love' but decided to mix the Marilyn Manson version and the Pussycat Dolls version; again, great fun to play around with and it always goes down really well at gigs. For me it's perfect because we get to play lots of cool songs and can throw in some creativity as well..

[quote name='nig' post='703046' date='Jan 6 2010, 04:27 PM'][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptmDZ5JiLf0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptmDZ5JiLf0[/url] Enjoy, I did, its a good look at the world of bass playing. [/quote] That's amazing - thanks Nig! Happy New Year by the way...

[quote name='obi 2 kenobi' post='705254' date='Jan 8 2010, 10:46 AM']Listen 'n learn y'all. Funk doesn't get any better than this..... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0tF8LxpAKA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0tF8LxpAKA[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk31242CnkU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk31242CnkU[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKtWMqW4ICM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKtWMqW4ICM[/url][/quote] Great! And the clothes don't get any better than that either... Love the sound of that drummer's kit and him and the bass player are really on the money!

[quote name='silddx' post='704165' date='Jan 7 2010, 01:57 PM'] And we shall have very many members I reckon![/quote] Yep! What are we like...

[quote name='Mottlefeeder' post='704886' date='Jan 7 2010, 10:25 PM']I had a conventional amp with a buzzing transformer that I could only hear when we all stopped playing. It still drove me nuts while I practiced at home, and I ended up trading it for one that did not buzz. David[/quote] Me too, with an Eden nemesis NA650..Apparently, it's an inherent design fault in the Nemesis range. Isn't it crazy that some supposedly 'hi-end' manufacturers don't seem to care enough about their quality control, their reputation or their customers! Chris - if you've already emailed them and you don't get a satisfactory response, you should ask for your money back. Good luck with it!

[quote name='silddx' post='703487' date='Jan 6 2010, 09:20 PM']Hey, thank you chaps, think the white Corvette is winning with the Wilkins a close second. Nik, wish I'd have known that before I met Mr Hillside, I may have reminded him And, er, told you didn't I ..[/quote] Great pic Nig, and has to become the official photo of the 'Basschatters (who love their basses more than anything else) Sad Losers Club'.. Must post mine too!

Some very good advice here Wayne and I think your work is really distinct and eye-catching, so there'd probably be plenty of takers.. Only thing I'd say is that you will seriously need to consider the health & safety implications for you if you started to do a lot more of this work. As I understand it, you'll need to ensure that you protect your lungs from all the extra dust particles, paints and other potential harmful materials used in the process.. The long-term impact if you don't is not good! Best of luck with it

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='703258' date='Jan 6 2010, 06:52 PM']Really, it's an excellent experience. So much to experience and learn from so many [i]friendly[/i] faces, some of whom you'll be familiar with... if not actually know. [b]Think of a bash as BassChat brought to life. Literally.[/b][/quote] Perfect description of it!

OK.. So, what's with the window?

[quote name='silddx' post='702146' date='Jan 5 2010, 09:18 PM']Thanks very much Nik. Half of those covers are Mrs silddx's, Kraftwerk is hers, Mine seem to be all prog rock and hippie things. They're all real covers. I wish I'd been at that Hyde Park show! I would love to hear the Hillage story! He seems like a very opinionated and forthright bloke, I wonder sometimes if he believes/ed all that stuff his lyrics are about [/quote] She has good taste does Mrs silddx! Not that you don't mind.... That was an amazing gig.. Amongst many others I remember that Hillage was on the bill and Kiki Dee IIRC? Queen were absolutely amazing that night! Ok, I know it's off-topic but the Hillage story is that he was producing a band called 'Yes Lets' and they were using Studio 1 at this rehearsal room for all their pre-production. Hillage had ALL his gear in there and the room was jam-packed. It was booked for 3 weeks straight and my band was due in the following Monday to start rehearsals for going on tour in Europe. So, we all walk in with our gear first thing on the Monday morning and guess what - he's still in there with all his bloody gear! So he and I had a huge screaming match.. The people who owned the studio and the indie label we were signed to, had to intervene and calm everything down.. We didn't get in there for 2 more days and our rehearsals for the tour were completely screwed up! As a result, Mr Hillage has never been on my Xmas Card list as I'm sure you can imagine. Talented barsteward though...

[quote name='Sean' post='701862' date='Jan 5 2010, 04:53 PM']Here's another live version of Suspicious Minds - this is the one that's on "Elvis Live". I love how high the bass is in the mix and how The Scheff goes from laying back a bit to just ripping away and then back again and then... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrRgZ6ReiWk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrRgZ6ReiWk[/url] The way it sort of changes gear at 2:40 gives me goose bumps. The high register phrases at 3.15 - 3.45 are just glorious [/quote] Absolutely fantastic!!

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='702277' date='Jan 5 2010, 11:01 PM']Given that, IMHO, a band is not (or at least ought not to be) merely a collection of individuals doing whatever they individually want, I'd expect to be influenced by my band mates in one or other of two ways. Either: (1) The band is a kind of collective working together cooperatively in which case I'd expect input from the others on what I'm playing and similarly I would comment on what they play. What happens in the end is a result of working together cooperatively. Or: (2) The band has a musical director who is in charge and may ask (or even tell) people to play a particular line or in a particular way. There may be some bands where there is some overlap between (1) and (2).[/quote] +1 It's certainly more like (1) in our case but we do have an MD and he has the final say as far as I'm concerned.. Life's too short to get protective and precious over basslines in a covers band!!

[quote name='AndroWal' post='701210' date='Jan 5 2010, 01:31 AM']I've posted some tracks on my myspace page with me playing my Wal Mark II Fretless 5. It has sycamore facings and I am using just the bridge pickup with eq flat and pick-attack engaged. There are a couple of solos where the sound is quite exposed for Wal sound listening pleasure. Please excuse the rough nature of the tracks. They were just trial-runs of a couple of compositions and an in-studio improv based on a composed theme. [url="http://www.myspace.com/androkotula"]http://www.myspace.com/androkotula[/url][/quote] Thanks for the link; really enjoyed 'Sing'! Hope you don't mind me saying but your playing reminds me of the chap who used to play on all the early Kate Bush albums..

[quote name='silddx' post='702116' date='Jan 5 2010, 08:58 PM']Cheers all Yes, I have seven anuses arranged very carefully, and I love Hillage (is that bad ) and I finally got to chat to him, after 30 years of being a devotee, in the party after the London gig in November, really cool bloke and he told me he goes fishing in the same places I do on the Kennet. He's the last remaining hippie don't you know![/quote] Great collection Nig! The room looks cool too and your choice of album covers is fabulous.. Are you also a Kraftwerk fan like me, or do you just like the album artwork? I remember seeing Steve Hillage at the Queen free Hyde Park Concert in 1976.. And I once had a huge row with him in a rehearsal studio in Holloway Rd about 8 years later, but that's another story!!

Congratulations Eude! Definitely a keeper this one...

[quote name='essexbasscat' post='699818' date='Jan 3 2010, 06:49 PM']Thank god someone else has picked this up besides Wayne and me. I was beginning to think that it was too soon after the last one - or is that really the case ? Genuinely puzzled as to why everyone's not jumping all over it really [/quote] I think it's the fact that Christmas and New Year have just happened..we're all a little bit lethargic and cold! Give it a while and more people will get interested.. Setting a date for it and a venue might help focus everyone's attention too? I'm happy to offer any advice I can by the way - please send me a PM and we'll go from there..

[quote name='cetera' post='699099' date='Jan 2 2010, 09:12 PM']US$150?!?!!!!! Wow!![/quote] +1 That's still only $650 in total!!

What about.. 'Phat' 'Clangy' 'Twangy' 'Dirty'

[quote name='essexbasscat' post='698842' date='Jan 2 2010, 05:01 PM']How are these things generally done ? I would be glad to help to make it happen, when it's possible for me to do so T [/quote] Hi, Generally, it's organised by a bunch of like-minded Basschatters who have nothing better to do with their time than hang around with other Basschatters and make loads of noise whilst drooling at loads and loads of great gear!! You should have a look at this thread: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=56195&hl=south+east+bass"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...south+east+bass[/url] or equally, any of the threads for the SW Bash, the Yorkshire Bash etc, etc.. Hope that helps! Nik

It seems as though some of the regional Bashes are becoming annual events, but a London one would certainly be a good idea I would have thought, given it's the Capital city etc, etc.. And it's definitely time we had another National Basschat one - the last one was in March 2008!