OutToPlayJazz

[quote name='40hz' post='842069' date='May 19 2010, 02:05 PM']Hahahaha! [/quote] I don't see the reason for your apparent hilarity... ??

[quote name='lemmywinks' post='841565' date='May 18 2010, 11:35 PM']That top one looks really nice, starting to get scared that i might be a closet Status fan now! Also, who is NAS?[/quote] NAS is a member on here. Look him up if you like the Status Vintage basses.

[b]Candy[/b] *sob* [b]Apple[/b] *sob* [b]Red[/b] *sob* [b]Pearloid[/b] *sob* Why did you have to show me that?? Very very nice!

There's a review in the reviews section. Yes, these are excellent basses and they're going to do the same as the SUB range did, which is rob sales from the parent brand. And quite rightly so

Sounds like a really nice honest bass, Paul. I agree with you in that it could do with some different strings by the sound of it. If you're keeping the action that low you'll need to play a little less aggressively, though Nice sounding bass for not much money. Good choice

Yep, it's the Vintage series that took over from the Retroactive models. NAS has one, so he'll be able to tell you what they're like. I liked it when I played it at his house.

[quote name='donut' post='841439' date='May 18 2010, 09:50 PM']Something like this would be nice: Except: [list] [*]20 frets, not 21 [*]Side-mounted jack [*]No volume knob, wired straight to the jack. No messing about. [/list] In fact, I love that idea so much I might just have to save up and get myself one... [/quote] Just like Martin said... Get Status to make it - Like the one in this picture!

[quote name='ajerthebadger' post='840966' date='May 18 2010, 03:20 PM']Cheers for all your suggestions. I like the Musicman because I can cover a wide palet of sounds. I'm currently in an Alt Rock band (www.mapsandlegends.co.uk if you want to hear some handy work) and the kind of rounder sound with a bit of clarity is what I'm going for. I tend to add some mid on the amp and have the bass boost half way on the bass to give it some punch. My reason for going new is that I've never had a decent new bass. The money is coming as part of some inheritance and I'd really like some thing nice and new to show for it, so unless the bass was unused or perfect condition S/H then I wouldnt really consider it. Obviously I would like to try out as many different basses as possible. Heres some criteria if anyone can suggest a bass that fits: - £1000 ish - Decent Active electronics (comparative to a MusicMan) - Open to suggestions on styling (would prefer Jazz/MusicMan) - Good range of sounds or good round tone to accompany elctronics I guess I'm after a work horse and want to be able to use it for future projects whatever they may be. Thanks for all your help. AJ[/quote] Ah right, now you've clarified things a little more... So you like the active punch & clarity of the Sterling, but want something a little more rounded & thicker, then? You need to try a Status S2-Classic (headed, I'd assume) - The 18v preamp gives you a more balanced sound & the second humbucker thickens things out a lot more. The preamp is among the best out there & the graphite neck is the most stable thing since granite. You'll also find you cut through any mix of instruments much better as well. I only suggest these as I've been playing them for twenty years and they really do cover every job and style very well. The price of one of these is £1456 new. It's a lot more than your original £1000, but you're looking at £1300 with one of the new American Deluxe Fenders, so it's not too far away for something infinitely superior. Used versions are bullet proof and it's rare to find a tatty one as they're built so well. They crop up here and at statii.com for around £1000 or less, as I said, usually in mint condition. [i][b]But again, make sure you get out there and try lots of instruments. You may even surprise yourself and fall for a £300 Squier, thusly saving yourself a packet. See what you find. [/b][/i]

As others have mentioned already in this thread, it all depends on what you like the sound of and the feel of best. I could sit here shouting "New American Standard Fender Jazz or Precision, Gibson Thunderbird, MusicMan 2EQ Stingray, second hand Shuker Jazz, second hand Status, Warwick", etc, etc, etc (ad infinitum!), but you're better off getting off your arse & visiting some music shops to find your ideal £1k bass. You'll know it's your bass when you feel just right playing it & love the sound it produces. Then again, you could take someone's advice and buy something unseen off the interweb, receive it, hate it & sell one of us a total bargain on the classifieds on here in a few weeks...

All the nice bits, basically... A John East P-Retro, through body stringing, nitro cellulose lacquer, buffed rosewood fingerboard, vintage reverse tuners, Nordstrand split coil & single J pickup at the bridge (for some added versatility) & either natural wood finish or the colour you like best. Also go for the neck thickness/width you like best. Precision type-B for a guess!

Quite true, it is much easier to intonate an instrument running on thinner strings. The man has a point I must admit though, I'd never heard of the idea of pulling the bridge setting further back for extra string tension. Anyone else heard of that one before?

[quote name='bh2' post='840225' date='May 17 2010, 09:35 PM']I would prefer one of these... [url="http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0131800300"]http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0131800300[/url] Don't know about UK prices though.[/quote] Cheapest web prices seem to be around £599 - £649 for the 60's model.

Mr.Classic & Cool seems to have quite a few 80's models knocking around at the moment. Would you guys say that his prices are generally reflective of the market, or is he a little on the over-inflated side?

I always fancied one of the Elite II models in either white/gold hardware or walnut. Stunning things. WOT used to have one, if I'm not mistaken...

Perhaps a young, nubile topless lady will pop out of the case when opened, singing "Happy Birthday, Mr.President?!"

[quote name='redstriper' post='840003' date='May 17 2010, 06:36 PM']That's quite a statement considering the price difference - did you compare the AV directly with the RW ? Is the RW basically the same bass as the Classic series, with no difference apart from the relic finish and the price ? I tried a Squier CV but it sounded thin and modern compared to my old '63 jazz.[/quote] I would imagine the AV and Road Worn sound pretty similar at the end of the day. Measurements and hardware are all the same in the case of the Precision, as is the nitro finish. Obviously they'll vary from bass to bass but they are very similar. The only thing that may be different is that the RW series use the American Std pickups. The Road Worn is one great bass, basically. Having owned one and played a few, I'm definitely going to get another Fiesta Red Jazz at some point.

[quote name='Clarky' post='839904' date='May 17 2010, 04:57 PM']Quarter Pounders are really beefy pickups (as are Wizard Area 51 and DiMatzio Model P p/u's) and will lack subtelty (that's why I use a selection of the foregoing!) I would have thought a Thumper, no disrespect to OTPJ, is also fairly hot for your needs. A standard output P p/u is probably perfect for what you describe. The Antiquity range may be as good as any. The alternatives would be Lindy Fralins, Wizard standard P, Lollar etc etc.[/quote] No problem, Clarky - I concede to your superior knowledge. Actually, thinking about it, I've never changed a bass pickup in 25 years of playing!

Sounds like you need something almost overwound if you're going to change it. A Wizard Thumper, perhaps? I always find the quest for this kind of sound quite odd, as I personally hate it when the bass has no top end or definition. I like to be able to hear every frequency the instrument has to offer. Flatwound strings make me feel as if I've lost the top end off my hearing!

[quote name='merello' post='839662' date='May 17 2010, 12:12 PM']If I hadn't seen it on Saturday, I'd have said a new pair of slippers... [/quote] A Peterson Sherlock Holmes pipe to go with the slippers?

[quote name='artisan' post='839649' date='May 17 2010, 12:05 PM']well i got through to PMT Leeds to try out the 70's jazz but unfortunately it had been sold already-bugger. i tried out a new mexican standard jazz & was well impressed but didn't buy it,oh no i walked out with a fiesta red road worn P bass,which looks cool on stage next to my fiesta red road worn jazz bass anyone not tried a road worn they are excellent basses,far better than the american standards imo.[/quote] *Smiles* I played that Road Worn Precision when I was there last week - Congrats, it's a really nice bass! I ended up walking out with the 50th Anniversary Jazz, though. Did you try the Sandberg Panther 5 they have there? I really liked that one, had it not been for the cosmetic damage on it, I might have bought it. Rich.

1. 1.wav = The Hofner 2.wav = DeArmond 3.wav = Overwater 5 (this one was easy as you can hear the B-string resonating slightly as you play - A common problem on powerful active 5-stringers! ) 2. The most vintage sound is the Hofner - The sound is nicely defined, but not too wooly, whereas the DeArmond sounds almost lost when the tone control was shut off. 3. Would have to be the tight definition of the Overwater for me - Much more growl than the others.

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the "Punk Bass" series from [url="http://www.krappyguitars.com"]www.krappyguitars.com[/url] More than anything, you have to read their company manifesto... [i][b]KRAPPY GUITARS--Krapmeister Kevin Siebold relays the philosophy that guides our efforts: Our instruments are built for frugal people who aren't very concerned with regard to quality, construction, materials, or safety. The instruments are crafted from whatever we find suitable. Pedigree of wood is not a priority for us. We might get it from a local hardware store, or use some old shipping crates, or skids. Who knows??!! If you are intrigued enough to purchase, we will provide you with a complete history for your instrument. The history might be akin to this: Wood: leftover 2x4 from a construction site. Strings: used about 3 years ago on an old guitar. Pickups: some buncha crap we snagged from some guy. Electronics: whatever we can scrounge up! Our warranty: There is no warranty, expressed or implied. We fully acknowledge our product is crap, and your purchase signifies that you have entered into an agreement to buy a product that is lacking in quality, contains poor materials, and is worthy of much abuse and destruction. We will in no way provide any customer service, so don't even waste your time!!! [/b][/i]

[quote name='AndyTravis' post='838440' date='May 15 2010, 09:07 PM']For the one i had on order (and susequently cancelled, due to skint disease...) i'd planned to put a shell guard on.[/quote] Sorry to hear about that, Andy - Hopefully another one will appear at the right time in the future.

[quote name='Clarky' post='838426' date='May 15 2010, 08:47 PM']The beauty of a Jazz s/p is you don't have to unscrew anything else, unlike the P-bass, if you want to swap - as you know. So you could easily fit a tort and keep the white s/p safe in the case and swap back should you ever decide to sell ... which of course you will not [/quote] Quite true on the scratchguard, mate - I think this one's a keeper, actually. It's got a lot of character to it and is just that little bit better than every other Jazz I've had. The RoadWorn was an excellent player & I'd like another one of those as it's a very honest jazz which utterly nails the classic sound, but this 50th one is something else altogether. It has that extra dimension to the sound and amazing playability.

Hey Clarky, Yes, agreed - I'm no fan of white scratch plates either, but I feel that this particular bass should be kept standard in terms of cosmetics. If I get fed up of the earthing of the 75RI pickups (the electrics in my house are about 100 years old!), I'll drop in some noise cancelling Nordstrands, but the sound this bass makes as stock is astounding as it is, anyway. I was just looking at the Nash bass & thinking how much it looks like a Road Worn Fender!