Bassassin

There's a lot of love for Sire MM V7s around these parts: https://www.thomann.de/gb/marcus_miller_v7_alder_4_fl_bmr_2nd_gen.htm I do like mine to mwaah (for me, that's sort of the point!) but the active EQ (switchable) means it's capable of more aggressive tones & would probably do what you want. Mine's a 1st gen and the current ones are apparently even better. Also just remembered, there's a 1980 Ibanez RS940 Roadster fretless in the Basses For Sale section - I have the fretted version of the same bass (RS924) and these can be very aggressive sounding, thanks to a very hot J pickup, mine reads about 12.5k. Also feature a switchable active EQ. Could be worth a look.

Forgot that this thread started as an early discussion of YT stunt bassists. While new & different techniques are always interesting & worth investigating as an exercise, I think not liking what it actually sounds like is very much the point. For all the clever technique in the world, the electric bass guitar is, in my view, not naturally suited to being a solo instrument. Someone on here (OK, it was me) once observed that bass solos tend to fall broadly into two areas of either frenzied, frenetic clattering or insipid, anaemic blooping.

Interesting to read my own comments 15 years on. Back to not playing in a band, never say never but right now I don't really anticipate returning to gigging. So as a consequence bass has taken much more of a back-seat again (although I'm quite enjoying messing around with fretless) and music's once more a composing/recording affair. Not really too focused on improving technique as a result, but 'good enough' is good enough to be able to compose & play what I think the song requires. Which is still typically too many notes in too short a space...

Anyone who'd heard Victor shouldn't be remotely surprised it's nowt like Rush.

Have the album but not got around to giving it a listen yet. The two tracks I've heard are great, one very darkwave/electro & the other blatantly channeling Type O Negative! Who'd a' thunk Lerxst would join/form a Goth band?

Some great songwriting, but for me that was the album where I lost touch with them for a few years. Maybe a production/management decision but it sounded like the album was a deliberate attempt to dilute the band for US market palatability - Stuart adopting a forced-sounding, mid-Atlantic nasal vocal style & AOR radio-friendly production wasn't what I expected, or wanted to hear. I'd seen them at the Astoria in December '87, when they played a few tracks from the forthcoming album (I remember Peace In Our Time & Thousand Yard Stare), which sounded phenomenal, but seemed so watered-down when they were recorded. Thinking about it (and apropos of very little) that was the last London gig I went to before I moved to Scotland.

To my ears BC were initially very much a post punk/celtic rock band with a full-on prog rhythm section - Butler/Brezicki were phenomenal and a massive part of the sound. Early extended, multi-part songs like Porrohman & The Crossing really show that Adamson wasn't afraid to get a bit proggy! Bit unfair to dismiss The Skids (assuming that's who you mean!) as an 'awful punk' band - while a lot of their debut Scared To Dance has its roots in that style, both Days In Europa & The Absolute Game move well beyond the limitations of the genre, and I suspect a lot of the early BC material would have made up the next Skids album had Stuart not left. I'd certainly recommend giving them another listen, particularly TAG - some superb, atmospheric songs like A Woman In Winter & Arena - and Stuart reprised the riff from Out Of Town (with a few differences) on Tall Ships Go, on Steeltown. Jobson was never a 'conventional' singer but he had a hell of a set of pipes on him (as well as being a bizarre and intriguing lyricist) and you can hear his influence on Stuart's singing.

That Aria's the spit of mine, which I had new in 1984! Apart from mine, I don't think I've seen another blue/black burst outside of a catalogue, very uncommon finish. This was my main gigging bass up to the late 90s, by which point it had developed a severe & irreparable neck twist. It's currently wearing an RSB Straycat neck which is not a perfect fit or of the same proportions, so it's nothing like as nice a player as it was originally. Still the second most versatile passive bass (after a Peavey T40) I've ever played, thanks to the plethora of switching options. I live in hope of a good replacement RSB Deluxe neck turning up!

In fairness, Bruce is all over the shop for the first 3 or 4 bars!

Seemed like a good idea at the time - my band was performing some long-ish compositions which would have benefited from fretless in some sections. Never even made it to a rehearsal as our drummer emigrated & was never replaced. Now it's nothing but a (massively heavy) albatross around my neck...

Love that massive centre stringer - like the Fujigen/Ibanez Fakers on steroids!

I was at that gig - first time I saw BC, if I remember at that point they'd only released the Harvest Home & Fields Of Fire singles. I was a massive, massive Adamson fan - he was a unique guitarist and an incredibly gifted songwriter, and probably still my single biggest influence as a composer. It's one of my great regrets that I never saw The Skids, but I saw BC many times between '83 and '96. Got to meet him briefly in 1994 (they did an acoustic set in Edinburgh HMV to promote an album release) and he seemed such a pleasant, genuine soul, appearing flattered (and a bit surprised!) when I mentioned how much I rated him as a guitarist & writer. A month or two ago I came across this on YouTube, completely by accident. BBC Radio recording of their gig at Hammersmith Palais in 1983 - the second BC gig I went to. Had no idea it existed!

More sh!t bat than batsh!t.

They are - or at least were - very much the same sort of deal as Thomann was, pre-Brexit at least. I've not used either since the UK undertook its noble journey towards third-world status, but I have previously bought a guitar from DV247. Excellent, fast service and the instrument arrived in perfect condition with a good, perfectly playable setup straight out of the box. I'd happily use them again, if they offered the best deal on something I was after.

A pack of apoplectic zombie badgers, howling out their loss and desolation through the subterranean catacombs of Pandaemonium, principal city of Hell, as they pursue their endless, eternal futile quest for the last packet of chocolate digestives in all of creation, aware yet unaware, in some impossibly deep part of their decomposed, undead brains, that it has already been consumed by the Demon Pazuzu, several millennia earlier. But with a touch of chorus.

It would be. Nice project if it was £50.

Like the ad says, beautiful. Boggles the mind that Prince never did that to his...

Easy. My £60 CSL Jazz, picked up from a pawn shop in 2004-ish with the intention of running it under the tap & flipping it for a quick profit. Nicest bass I've ever played, simple as that. It's had a few shiny bits stuck on it, but even when I gave it a quick go in the shop, with strings from 4 different sets & one pickup not working, I knew it was something special.

Knowledge is a journey with no destination, young Padawan. And I have been walking in circles for a very long time... Good luck finding one!

Paul - you know I'm going to be a pedant about this but indulge me! Broadly that's a list of a lot of of the variations, but on the whole these are what we can use to ID the factory which made a specific Faker. Factories stuck to their designs & details with only a few variations, which were either based on model level or evolution over time. A good example of the latter would be Fujigen (Ibanez, some Greco, some Electra and others), whose early basses (from '71-ish) had early 70s Rick traits like checked binding & full-width inlays, but were fitted with Gibson-type pickups, because it seems no Rick copy units were available at the time. The model was revised, probably around '74/5 to have Rick type pickups & small inlays, but kept the checked binding. The Grover type tuners were exclusive to Matsumoku and one of the ways to ID a Mat copy. They also appeared on other Mats basses, including the Epiphone Scroll bass & some through-neck ET288s. Thing is, many people don't realise how many different manufacturers (from major concerns like Fujigen & Chushin, to little backstreet woodshops), were operating in Japan during the 70s - possibly numbering into three figures. During the copy era most, if not all, will have made a Rick 4001 type. We're certain about a handful really, mostly where a brand name is known to be linked to a specific manufacturer. Obviously that's particularly tricky with Rick clones due to the tendency of orginal trcs to go in the bin!

In fairness, RIC didn't exist in the 70s! No-one got litigious about anything much back then, the big US companies didn't see Japan as a threat until it was way too late. Hence Fender & Gibson losing exclusivity to the body shapes of their instruments, and Fender ultimately being so spooked by the quality of MIJ Strat etc copies (compared with their own CBS-era tat) that they contracted Fuijigen Gakki to build Squiers & got Kanda Shokai - owner of Greco - to run Fender Japan. RIC trademarked their designs in the 90s/00s at a time when Rick copies were practically defunct, and up until very recently (when Big John stepped down, or got locked in a padded room, or whatever) protected their IP with extreme hostility and prejudice. So yeah, BC definitely got more of a shoeing than anyone involved in making or selling Fakers in the 70s!

Hell's teeth - what's wrong with some people? Failed firewood.

Can't add much to that list - although I have seen one (can't remember if it was real or copy) which had been converted to string-through-body. IMO Hipshot's the best choice, unless you're one of the .0005% of players who make use of the mutes. As well as giving you individual string height & spacing, lack of the mute assembly makes pick playing easier and allows for palm muting, which is borderline impossible with the standard tailpiece. It's also the only option which doesn't require drilling new holes or any other mods. Put one on my Kasuga Faker & it's a great piece of kit.