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Or you can increase the Fb of the enclosure a little bit which will shift the ~43Hz peak upwards a bit while at the same time increasing the max SPL in the 50-70Hz range. If you want keep the LF extension the same (especially F10), then a slightly larger enclosure will offset this. It's very much a balancing act between variables, but IMO better choices could be made. Yes, this was much more common with vintage drivers, especially with extended low frequency tunings.
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Because the tuning that produced that plot was a poor tuning choice and one of the impacts is poor mechanical power handling in exactly that region. It's no surprise, and no experienced designer that I know of would choose that either. They would quickly recognize that they were well beyond the optimized zone. This is the plot for an equivalent 212 at 600 watts RMS with an appropriate tuning. Note that the driver I developed had 0.75mm greater winding height than the stock 12PR300 and a different mid voicing, but the majority of the improvement is a better tuning choice. The ideal HPF setting would be 4th order BW, ~50Hz. The cabinet F3 is 57Hz, the F6 is 51Hz, and the F10 is 45Hz.
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That’s with an overdamped tuning which is NOT representative of the NX2 nor the customized version of that driver. You are comparing apples and watermelon, the only similarity is that both are fruits.
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In most older (solid state in particular) power amps, the placement of the caps is such that they don’t get very hot. For example, a cap that’s rated for 1000 hours at 85C might be good for ~30k hours at 35C. This depends somewhat on the construction of the cap and the electrolyte used. Think about this for a moment, there are caps used in equipment that runs 24/7 for decades without issues. That’s 175k hours in 20 years, so clearly there’s a disconnect between needing a cap job on an amp used intermittently over 10 years and the above example. I have a test amp (Genz Benz ML-200 that I designed ~20 years ago) that’s been running continuously in my shop for 14 years, that’s 123k hours without any issues. By urban folklore, it should have needed multiple cap jobs. In fact, there are thousands of these amps out there and none have needed a cap job (that I am aware of, but since I handle the factory service for the brand, I would expect to hear about the need for parts. IME, the promotion of cap jobs is way overdone, but they are a highly profitable way to extract money from a gullible customer if that’s the business model you are ok with.
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I see old amps all the time, in very old amps around 50 years I do sometimes see the beginnings of electrolytic cap deterioration, but then again I see plenty that old with no issues whatsoever too. Since this amp came out in the early to mid 90's, and used the newer style caps, I would leave them alone unless there is an actual issue.
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That's not the box and tuning of the NX2, and the mid voicing is much better (IMO) on the 12PR300 (as well as our custom variant). That's a way overdamped application which I have always stayed away from.
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It's very uncommon to see a failed driver in those cabinets. The best replacement is the 12PR300, it's not exactly the same but the primary difference is in the mid voicing (the 12PR300 is a little more polite) and the original parts have a slightly longer VC winding height. The important part is that the 12PR300 will work with the same cabinet tuning as the GNX-12350 without any fuss. I do not recommend anything else.
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I very rarely find defective electrolytic caps, my experience is that caps made in the last 40 years are likely to last 50 years or more provided the designer respected the design requirements of the part. In amps that I designed on the past, going back over 30 years, I have yet to see a bad electrolytic cap (other than one that was damaged by a repair attempt). When sample caps are tested, they are fully within acceptable spec. I have seen plenty of PCB’s damaged by techs or adventurous users doing cap jobs (without the proper knowledge, skills, experience and tools) and creating expensive paperweights out of their formerly perfectly fine amps. I generally recommend leaving well enough alone, it it isn’t broken, don’t break it!
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It doesn't even need to be synchronized for the benefit of increased power efficiency (though it may be necessary for other reasons such as EMC control, THD reduction or purely functionality depending on how the topology is achieved.) The PWM frequency is high enough that it all averages out with the lower audio frequency and the reactive power reclamation still works.
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Generally, no. The output stage is configured as either 1/2-bridge or full bridge depending on the power supply and the design of the power amp.
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This particular mechanism doesn’t apply to class AB/G/H amps, so the increase in efficiency doesn’t apply for these types.
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Bridging (internally) on class D amps is done for very different reasons. It allows reactive energy stored in the electro magnetic field of the voice coil moving within the motor to be transferred to the the opposing rail(s) of the power supply rather than to be dissipated as heat. This improved efficiency.
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It may not be a bridged output either, which helps by eliminating some particular failure modes.
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And now, many amps use bridged configurations (often internally).
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Both plugs and jacks are internally specified for ~5000 mating cycles, OEMs would's use them if it was only 1000 (even if the retail paperwork says so) Retail facing paperwork and specifications aren't what OEM's use, and we have access to better data than that.
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OEM specs are 5000 mating cycles
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Connecting FX send & return to fix amp problems......
agedhorse replied to Beedster's topic in Amps and Cabs
A properly built jack (like Neutrik brand) uses phosphor-bronze or Cu-SN6 alloy bronze components that are very spring-like and extremely reliable (rated for 10k mating cycles minimum). Of course there are lesser quality parts with issues, but that's not a design problem. Lesser quality parts may be good for 1k mating cycles or less. -
Beware that the insulation on this unjacketed on that type of cable is very vulnerable to damage, both from stage hazards as well as where the top of the strain relief chuck meets the wire. The strain reliefs on these plugs are designed specifically for round jacketed wire to avoid pinching and stress points. This won't hold up for very long in pro applications, whereas proper cable can hold up for a couple of decades.
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That's really odd, I've never seen a single PA application wired with 1- wired to 2+ at the load end EVER. In any application where 2+/2- might be present at the source (like in a stereo application w/ left and right carried on pair a and 2), this creates a dangerous load to the amp. On PA applications, the industry that I know follows the Biamp wiring, with 1+/1- being the low pair or full range if not biamped. 2+/- is only wired when used for HF in biamped applications, otherwise is entirely not used. It looks like it was a hack to allow for a series connection, but I've never seen it used in any pro speaker cabinet. The reason is to avoid damaging conflicts when a biamped cabinet might be used just for low frequency applications, or where 4 wire cables are used for all applications. My sound company's inventory includes about a hundred 4 wire SpeakOn cables that get used for everything, so we don't have to worry about what's 2 wire and what's 4 wire. Every sound company I have ever worked with does the same thing. I'm talking about pro companies, not a guy, some speakers and a sketchy van. Here's JBL's application of the SpeakOn standard wiring: https://jblpro.com/zh/site_elements/srx700-users-guide
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2 pole panel mount Neutrik jacks are now identified as "2 pole keyed"
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Connecting FX send & return to fix amp problems......
agedhorse replied to Beedster's topic in Amps and Cabs
Reminder, when using any kind of contact spray (on switching contacts), it hast to actually get in the contact as well a not get elsewhere which can cause new and more expensive issues. never use contact cleaner on pots, it’s a good way to ruin them. DeOxit D5, and only the tiniest amount in the slot that the terminals exit from is generally safe and effective. -
Most have 4 pin SpeakOn jacks, wired with only 1+ and 1-.
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Correct, Rean jacks are essentially identical to the parent company branded jacks and in fact share the same safety certification file. Rean parts are available to large OEMs with some customization options.
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RoHS was in effect when SWR was shipping those combos, most of us in the industry began to migrate well before 2006 to get ahead of that curve.