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If this were the case, if there was little difference in drivers, then why would some designers choose expensive drivers over cheap drivers? Because in most cases, drivers with higher performance cost more (sometimes a lot more). Yes, driver performance can be very different from model to model, and some designers actually have a good idea of what players are looking for and are willing to spend to achieve this. You just don't know this (yet). Fortunately, I can design around whatever performance I need, and the cost doesn't matter all that much for our customer provided the speaker delivers the necessary performance in the size and weight box that the player is willing to accept. It's actually nice to design around performance and not have to worry about the cost (within reason), and for those players that feel that the cost is more important than performance, there are plenty of other options out there.

250 watts RMS is a (reasonably) clear term meaning that it's the thermal limit without the additional information regarding mechanical limits. Anything beyond this is speculation, and if you were to damage the cabinet with 500 watts, the question would then arise about what that 500 watts really means in terms of any warranty coverage. Now it's possibly that the 500 watts is being used as a representation of "program" power handling, but since program power is generally a thermal rating as well, in practice it really represents a reduction in the crest factor of the test signal waveform (an increase in thermal duty cycle). It clearly does not apply to distorted signal, from my reading of that statement. Regarding the use of the amp in question, I would recommend a healthy dose of caution and good judgement. The ShuttleMax 9.0 is rated at 500 watts RMS into 8 ohms, certainly enough to cause damage without good judgement.

Is the 300 watts in the marketing material "RMS" or "program" (2x the RMS value) or "peak" (4x the RMS value)? The details are important.

That’s too bad, but it is a fairly heavily voiced amp, and if the voicing isn’t your cup of tea then it’s not a good choice. Thousands were sold and there is still a robust used market for these amps.

I still get £261 with the courier fee, does VAT actually apply to the cost of shipping? I thought it was just materials and labor at the retail level. Generally, repair labor is excluded from our sales tax, only the materials are taxed. Slowly we are creeping up to European levels, some areas of our country are now over 10%.

By my math, it’s about 250 not 300.

When a resistor fails, it's almost always collateral damage from other failures that are not visually obvious. Replacing the resistor just burns up another perfectly good part and ultimately causes additional damage.

Parallel amp mode is 2 separate channels driven by the same signal of the same polarity. This requires a speaker on each amp channel. Bridged amp mode is 2 amp channels, driven by a common signal with opposing polarity. A single speaker load is placed between the speaker outputs of the two channels.

I worked as production manager for Robin on a new project less than a year before he died. Brilliant, intense and a classic example of burning the candle at both ends. Very, very sad.

I show around +/-56V

Actually, voltage, current, impedance and power are directly related and can not be separated. Double the voltage into the same nominal impedance and the power quadruples, that's non-negotiable. Power factor, or the phase angle between the voltage and current doesn't really matter because it applies equally to both situations. Power = Voltage squared divided by the nominal impedance. The reason the power quadruples when the voltage doubles is due to the squaring of the voltage. Bridging carries the risk of one of the two speaker conductors being accidentally connected to ground. Because the output of the amp is not ground referenced, grounding either terminal can damage the amp. Some amps are designed from the ground up to be bridged, these are generally fairly tolerant of real world loads. Some amps bridge as an afterthought, these tend to be more vulnerable. Many class D amps are designed using bridged topology, in part to improve the power supply efficiency when driving inductive loads. This is an important part of some of these amps.

No Genz Benz amp was ever a Fender designed or built amp.

Sorry, I will need to look in the archives.

There are multiple voltages, +/- main rails, +/-15V and +24V

On the amp, the channel 1 input sensitivity control should be set all the way up (fully clockwise).

There is almost no rare earth elements that are used for magnetic structures also found in other electronics (including semiconductors). The rare earth elements that are used for speaker magnets are also used in all kinds of motors, generators and actuators. These devices are found throughout industry, transportation and also within electronic products (such as vibrator motors, haptic actuators, etc.). The speaker industry competes directly with these other heavy hitting players in sourcing the material.

That's a (very) far cry from a square wave. On a sine wave (a fundamental with no harmonics) it looks more "spectacular" than it is, but on a complex (real world bass) signal, the signal is built up of varying amplitude sine waves comprised of the fundamental and its many harmonics. Because the amplitude varies by a large amount between component signal elements (which is what makes up the envelope of the composite signal), clipping affects only some of the signal.

A couple of things to try... Does it make this noise with either the 410 or the 115? What are the cabinet impedances? What are the amp's minimum allowable load impedances? Are you SURE your cabinets haven't been modified or repaired incorrectly? Different amp types have different protection circuits, some can cause the noise that you are describing.

0dB is nominal, the difference between dBv, dBu is not important here knowing the MOL is over 3V rms.

Bridging is about BOTH voltage and current. It's impossible to change one without the other, they go hand in hand according to ohm's law. The preamp has plenty of output available to drive the power amp. That's NOT the problem, no matter how some here keep trying without understanding the differences between "nominal input level", "nominal input sensitivity", "nominal output level" and "maximum output level". The ~3V rms maximum output level of the preamp is the same as +12dBu which is typical for a preamp like this with a nominal output level of either 0dBu, +4dBu or 0dBv. In pro audio, the maximum output level is typically extended to +26dBu, but that doesn't matter here. The nominal input sensitivity of the amp is 1.15V which is the same as +3.5dBu. Since the OP is able to get the output limit LEDs on the amp to flash, the problem appears to be AFTER the power amp (ie. speaker cable wiring, defective/damaged driver, cabinet wiring, or polarity issues within or between speakers), or is the result of grossly unrealistic expectations.

In parallel, you have 720 watts split evenly between 2 cabinets. 2 cabinets off of a single channel is 600 watts split evenly between 2 cabinets. I agree with Downunder, very few 15" drivers suitable for bass guitar are cable of 600 watts RMS for very long. Looking at their website, their largest bass cabinet (CL-115 large) is rated at 500 watts RMS. The other question is how the cabinets are rated. If those are thermal ratings, than you should be aware that mechanical ratings are generally less then thermal ratings. Often, it's impossible to know what the mechanical ratings are until it's too late. I think 360 watts per cabinet is a reasonable power level, and say the power handing is 500 watts, the difference between 360 and 500 watts is about 1dB. Since there are no sensitivity specs on their website, there's no way to calculate the net effect on maximum SPL.

Actually, there are plenty of good applications for a biamped sub/top rig but not in smaller venues (under say 1000 seats) and especially indoors. Outdoors, where there is little boundary reinforcement is one such application. The additional low frequency volume and extension makes up for the "almost free-space" losses. The alternative to this is substantial side fills or taking the IEM path (which loses much of the feel for the band). These are not casually slapped together systems, but a significant amount of thought (and money) typically goes into such a rig. What I usually see is some form of PA sub (JBL SRX-718's and 728's used to be pretty popular for this application but often it's more of what the sound company is already carrying) and a conventional bass cabinet top, crossed over between 80-100Hz. Sometimes, you don't see the sub cabinets so it may not be as obvious.

Have them look at it again, if the actual cause is not correctly identified, no repair or miraculous guessing is going to fix the problem. No, transistorized (and solid state amps in general) are no less reliable (and IMO much more reliable) than most tube amps.

The power amp will not show any indication with the input sensitivity controls down. The metering looks at the signal post sensitivity control. Unless he has a bridging cable that is wired differently than a standard SpeakOn, it will not be in bridge mode regardless of what the switch position is. That might have saved his speakers under the circumstances. This amp will bridge into 4 ohms, but it's more than enough power to destroy the speakers (based on what he posted on TalkBass. Best way to operate his rig is one cabinet per channel in dual mode IMO (and IME)

I will ask.