PaulWarning

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1502226566' post='3350151'] Sortof, we played on Fri in the Arena. Obviously I didn`t hear that, but the bands which I heard that had a trebly bass, rather than bassy bass (if that makes sense) sounded great. Skurvi for example, in The Pavillion on Thu were excellent, Liams bass having hi-mids and treble boosted, rather than low end, sounded great. Likewise with JJ of The Last Resort in The Empress on Sunday, again a good deal of high-end on his bass. I think that`s the trick to Rebellion as many bands did seem to have a "wampy" sound. I`ve heard a recording of us - it`s on youtube - and my bass was its usual trebly aggressive sound, and clear as anything in the mix. [/quote]I saw you do this song, the bass is more prominent in the vid than I remember live although your lot did get an above average sound for that stage, wouldn't say your sound is trebly (from the video anyway) about right really, a middy sound that cuts through, but then again I have to take out my hearing aids at gigs lol

[quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1502195523' post='3349901'] 'Bass drum' is a bloody misnomer. I like bass drums that are small and sound tight and poppy, they should 'thud' with a very quick decay rather than 'boom' in the dreadful, floppy sounding way so many do now. Live sound is often dreadful for a variety of reasons, but sadly I get the impression that a lot of sound engineers create a bad mix and then try to mask the dreadful tone by banging the volume right up until you end up with an ear-splitting mush. That's what I got when I saw Big Country at the O2 in Newcastle a couple of years ago. Deafeningly loud; a dreadful mess of booming bass and drums and piercing high end. Mike Peters' vocal mix was awful too, and he was frequently howling out of tune because the mix was so poor. Sad to see such a great band struggling with a crap mix like that. Half the time, if you didn't know the songs, you wouldn't have known what the bloody hell was going on. [/quote]couldn't agree more about the bass drum, it's almost like sometimes they're putting reverb or echo on it [quote name='radiophonic' timestamp='1502204428' post='3349980'] At least a Bass Drum is [i]meant[/i] to be loud. We don't have one, but the average sound guy responds by making the cajon as loud as a kick drum would have been, then cranking everything else to match it. [/quote]can't agree with you there, a bass drum isn't supposed to be louder than the rest of the drum kit, it's the fashion at the moment to have it loud, which annoys the hell out of me

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1502194583' post='3349890'] Rather than moan about the crap sound on here where in general we are all in agreement, why not post something on the band's Facebook page. Be vaguely positive by saying how much you enjoyed the performance, and it was only the terrible sound that let it down. Maybe find out who the PA hire company is as well and post something similar on their social media. If enough of us start doing it then maybe we'll start to get a more balanced sound at gigs. As for Rebellion... how many years have they been holding it now? Surely the PA hire company will have sorted out by now how to deal with a room they keep coming back to year after year? Or are the organisers using different companies every year? [/quote]surely all bands have at least one person in the crowd to tell them what sort of sound they've had, but if they've not got their own sound guy you're stuffed, the bigger bands did get a better sound (either because they had their own sound man or by design, except on the first night)), but when I did hear the bass, when they were playing on there own, they all seemed to have the scooped sound, with stupidly low end on it

just got back from the Rebellion Punk Festival, and the sound was very mixed (see wot I did there?) to say the least, outside stage was good but the Empress ballroom on the first couple of days was awful, all bass resonance, and mush, my mate went up to the sound guy during the Leftover Crack set to complain but the sound guy just shrugged his shoulders and pointed at the high ceiling, by Saturday someone had figured out that if you turned down the drums and turned up the guitar you got a decent sound, the other indoor stages suffered as to varying degrees as well, but there was very little bass to be heard all weekend just a low end mush any body else go and have a different opinion?

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1501675673' post='3346456'] I thought I was the only one with no friends.... Can't find anybody to give you a hand?? [/quote]funny how they disappear when a Trace rig appears lol, and there's no help when I'm loading up/out at home, I'll stick to my lightweight cabs thanks

our singer rang Shure direct and they've agreed to send him a new mic but cancel any further guarantee, a result I suppose but they obviously don't believe he didn't dip it into a pint

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1501670746' post='3346388'] I You don't need to break your back lifting the TE cabs - buy a sack barrow. [/quote]I did try that, but you've still got to lift it out of the car, and there always seems to be a step or two if not a flight of stairs at most venues and then off the sack trolley onto a stage and it's that initial bend and lift that I found the most damaging, I did try and lift properly with my legs and a straight back but it's awkward when you're bending inside the back of an estate car

the Who, Beatles and Stones were such good songwriters because they learnt their craft from covering other peoples songs, as do the vast majority of songwriters

I've recently stumbled across my latest 'perfect' sound (for how long? who knows) bought 2 Fender V2 cabs (because they were cheap), 2 x 8 and 1 x 12, super light weight and paired them with my 250 watt SMX GP12 head, I understand the weight issue having had a T E Combo, but match a TE head with light weight cabs, seems like the best of both worlds to me

[quote name='radiophonic' timestamp='1501663612' post='3346273'] What do you mean by regular? If you play originals in Nottingham, it's a totally different scene from covers bands. We play a fair bit around the city, but it's more arts-scene based. Sometimes it's the same 'pub gig' venues but the promoters/organisers aren't the same at all. We occasionally play regular pub gigs (as opposed to places like the Maze or whatever), but those places largely expect/demand covers bands playing classic rock or classic punk, close to the recorded version. It also depends on what success looks like to you. If your aim is to make money, then covers is the safe - probably the only - option. If your aim is to develop a musical idea, execute it in front of an audience and get a reaction, then getting paid has never been guaranteed. I like the fact that I don't have to even think about pandering to an audience's expectations... although doing folk related stuff does put you in contact with people who still think Dylan is Judas for plugging in! We've been asked to do a slot at a Folk club next month, but I'm still taking a looper and a delay pedal. [/quote]Don't know much about the folk scene tbh, we like to play most weekends. Originals gigs, unless you're supporting a 'name' act tend to be very poorly paid, if at all, poorly attended, mid week gigs, very depressing, we can pull it off occasionally as with our album launch party at the Lord Robert but you can't expect the same people to keep attending regular local originals gigs, as I said you have to do a lot of travelling if you in an originals Punk band, which if you've got a job can prove very difficult, as our Drummer found out when he was in an originals only band

another covers verses originals thread coming up, the way I see it is young bands tend to be originals where as the older you get the more pointless it seems, you're never going to get anywhere, having said that the band I play in have just released a new album (and on vinyl!) we usually do about 6 or 7 of our own songs in a 2 hour pub set, occasionally we'll do an all originals set but we don't normally get paid for those. If you want regular gigs without spending all your time going up and down the motorway network you're probably going to have to do covers.

[quote name='ivansc' timestamp='1501405025' post='3344430'] My first gig back as frontman recently was in a pub with a huge garden and no A/C on one of the hottest days of the year. Played to about four people in the pub, but looking out of the window the garden was packed. Struggled through and much to my surprise we had compliments galore from people coming in to order drinks. Weird but in a strange way not so bad. [/quote]we've had that, a pub with an L shaped room, thought there was hardly anybody listening to us, after the last song a massive shout for an encore and all these people appeared from round the corner, some punters enjoy listening to what you're playing but still want to chat with there mates, fact of life

[quote name='SpondonBassed' timestamp='1501334005' post='3344086'] I've seen footage of Verbal Warning and I know it to be the truth. Ha. Seriously though, I liked the way your band engaged with the audience in the clips that I've seen. You couldn't do that at a wedding. That's a cracking little band you have there. Not too precious about suffering for their art by being note perfect every time yet delivering a passionate performance always. That's what the "punters" remember afterwards even if they do notice the odd departure from score during the event. [/quote]well thank you sir, I think you summed us up well, make up with enthusiasm what we lack in natural ability

the band I play in (punk covers mostly) did a wedding, my own daughters, she only asked because she knew we wouldn't charge her and much to everyone's surprise it went really well, mind you, we didn't go on till later and it was a free bar all day, I think that's the secret, everybody has got to be well oiled before the band starts, we've done 2 others, one was ok and the other one not so good, it's not something I'd like to do on a regular basis, the trouble with weddings is you've got such a wide age group there, it's impossible to keep everyone happy

Got the Beatles tight as a ducks arse in Hamburg, had to bring the Beatles into a Blue thread

getting back on track, last night we were chatting after practice and recently we played at a festival, and one of the bands performed a cover we do, badly, and the crowd were all dancing around enjoying themselves, reminded me of a comment our old guitarist made once, "people hear what's in their heads not what's going in their ears"

cheers Phil I'll tell him

[quote name='Phil Starr' timestamp='1501068680' post='3342190'] Is it the Mic or reciever that is faulty? Water ingress is a generic term, any chance it's been placed on a surface swimming in beer? There's a general problem with a lot of circuit boards nowadays that they are particularly prone to water damage, lots of closely packed surface mounted components and multi layer circuit boards. There's also problems with boards made in China leaving the factories and getting damp whilst being shipped. Also rather than solve the problems it's increasingly common for manufacturers to have small indicator patches printed onto boards to show up any damp that gets inside. They open up repairs look for red and if it's there you've invalidated the warranty. Apple you know who you are! You probably are onto a hiding to nothing other than that they have to show that you allowed the water in. See how obliging GAK are, then consider whether you want to pursue it through the small claims court. [/quote]the mic has packed up, he says he's been very careful with it, GAK seem to be following the Shure line, that he must have got liquid into it, just wondered if it had happened to anyone else. [quote name='KevB' timestamp='1501069776' post='3342197'] He needs to stop spitting into his mic so much? [/quote]he's not the worst, not as bad as me lol, but if a mic packs up after 4 months because of spit it's not fit for purpose is it?

Our singer bought one of these back in February at a recent gig it stopped working, sent it back to GAK who sent it to Shure, they're saying it's because of severe water ingress, but he's been very careful with it and can't see how this has happened, anybody else come across this?

[quote name='ricksterphil' timestamp='1501017870' post='3341891'] Unless there is a specific need for overdrive, fuzz or whatever, I just use a tone I'm happy with and don't worry too much about originality. [/quote]sounds about right, I roll of the treble for reggae stuff, and use overdrive for Stranglers and Fuzz for Ace of Spades, that's about it really, as my partner says when I ask her about the sound of a new amp or speakers or I mess with the settings "bass is bass, all sounds the same to me"

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1500994245' post='3341583'] I don't want to say it's all in the fingers but to be honest it's all it the fingers! [/quote]not on Ace of Spades it's not, I've seen finger players trying to do it they don't even bother with fuzz, they shouldn't bother at all

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1500994612' post='3341586'] Apart from James Jamerson was better at playing Motown Basslines than that bloke in the Sex Pistols.** [/quote]oh I don't know Glen Matlock was no slouch

I can't play finger style very well, could learn with practice but I'm not motivated enough because most of my bass player influences play with a pick, if you just want to learn for the sake of it I wouldn't bother, no point in getting upset about it most people prefer one way or the other and when I've seen bass players switching between the two live there's not that much difference, Joe Public certainly wouldn't notice it, now where's that tin hat?

[quote name='Deedee' timestamp='1500979428' post='3341411'] The 'smaller' heads such as the AH250 SMX, AH200SM and numerous others are all 2 unit Rack size (height). The larger heads such as the AH350, 400, 600 and some of the earlier ones are 3 Unit rack size. They are also far deeper frint to back. [/quote]thanks, you learn something everyday

[quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1500976332' post='3341380'] A good key fact for a newbie to TE's .......... The key to getting a TE head that is liftable is to get a 2u sized one. The 3u ones are simply monstrously heavy. [/quote]sorry, maybe I'm being really thick but what is this 2u and 3u you talk of?