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part of the weight problem with TE gear is the speakers, I've a 1 x 15 cab which weighed 25Kg, not too bad in TE terms, then I remembered I had an Eminence 300 watt 15" speaker chassis in my loft, not a Neo but still shaved 5Kg off the weight when I put it in the Trace cab, which is now a relatively light 20Kg, so you x heavy Trace speakers by 4 and you've got a serious weight problem, I love Trace heads but wouldn't touch the combos (especially a 4 x 10) with a barge pole unless I never had to move it

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1486979222' post='3235929'] Its just a shame Bowie didn't get that recognition when he was alive. [/quote]not a big Bowie fan after his Ziggy period but as Jimi Hendix once said "once you're dead you're made for life" and he should have known

[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1486992696' post='3236062'] This morning I heard a radio ad. Declaring EBay as the place to sell your old stuff to clear a bedroom. So maybe that business model is getting shaky? I always thought eBay was good for selling nationally and Gumtree for selling locally. This weekend I put up an electronic piano on Gumtree. Folk were calling from up to 70 miles away! [/quote]yeah I was selling a Trace Elliot combo (44Kg) from Nottingham and a guy from Edinburgh wanted me to ship it there! fortunately somebody local bought it, depends what search criteria you put in Gumtree

[quote name='Spoombung' timestamp='1486939593' post='3235800'] Bidding is a wretched process. I haven't 'won' anything in years and prices go up to what you can buy it for new pretty much every time. I hate it. It might be alright if you're looking for toilet lids and radiators, I suppose. I'm not surprised 'buy it new' is commonplace because who wants to go through that bidding process? [/quote]Whenever I do sell on Ebay I go down the 'buy it now' with 'make me an offer' route, I 've found it a lot better with the added bonus of the item selling quicker

I've started using Gumtree, no fees, and collection most of the time ebay is my second port of call these days, yes they seem to be going down the Amazon route of just wanting traders these days, still a good place to buy though, I've got a few items at good (not bargain) prices recently (trace elliot heads), not much risk and no fees

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1486903370' post='3235356'] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#282828]I think the OP was suggesting what cover version one would prefer over the original.[/color][/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#282828](well, my take on it).[/color][/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#282828] [/color][/font] [/quote]I was thinking if the title only was read and not the first post, but really I was just trying to make sense of some of the suggestions

[quote name='casapete' timestamp='1486901151' post='3235338'] C'mon, I mean.... really? [/quote]to be fair the thread title is 'cover version over originals', no mention of better, think some people on here are posting suggestions for the worst cover version, or a cover that was nowhere as good as the original

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1486842033' post='3234991'] All this said we've all been to big arena gigs where a top pro is playing through top end gear and using a well qualified sound engineer. And it sounds a bag of sh*te if you can actually hear it at all above that bloody kick drum. There are limits to everything. [/quote]yep been there done that, bloody annoying as hell, hate kick drums they invade my frequency space

now this is better than Chuck's version, but then almost any cover by Hendrix was better than the original, except his Beatles efforts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlJclT1lMBk

not sure it's better than Chucks version, how could it be? but it's a different twist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyytlU-uS7k

[quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1486770676' post='3234538'] I know everyone and their granny has probably made better combos. but i still particularly fancy a TE, its just that i dont know what was available ( GP7 GP11 GP12 etc ) [/quote]wouldn't have said that, they're very good combos it's just the weight of them, I started with a combo but now have 2 TE heads, one is a series six and the other a GP12 SMX which I prefer, so I'd look out for one of those, God knows what it will weigh though Edit, apparently they're 104 pounds, hope your back is in good nick https://www.talkbass.com/threads/fs-ft-trace-elliot-gp12smx-410-combo-kc-local-only.953381/

[quote name='mikel' timestamp='1486736955' post='3234242'] Hey, I have no solo pretensions and I doubt many have but look on the gear threads of this forum and tell me people are not particular about there sound. I am and I am also not interested in recording so the dual rig thing is bogus. Its the blend of instruments that make a sound and If we all used the same tone it would all pretty much sound the same. Sometimes its peoples differences that make it interesting. Everything from Glen Cornick, JJ Burnel to Chris Squire. Imagine if there sound guys had simply dialed there unique sounds out and made them generic bass tones live, cos it was easier. The OP is all about "Improving live tone". [/quote]problem is all those guys have their own sound engineers who know what they should sound like, the rest of us have to use an in house sound man who has no idea (and probably doesn't care) what we want to sound like

never used an Ampeg TBH, wouldn't have thought Trace's could be described as modern and clean though, certainly not compared to class D amps anyway, but if the Ampeg is a valve amp it's not really a fair comparison, not sure which Trace you've got the GP is the preamp and the number of EQ sliders usually follows that (GP7, GP12 etc) the 150 is normally the power amp rating and has AH before it, as I said before try the gain at full that might distort the sound, does on mine. As for the send and return I never use them, can't see the point just use my FX pedal in line with my Bass lead

[quote name='adriansmith247' timestamp='1486640711' post='3233428'] I have just got hold of one of these pedals second hand but am not happy with the overdrive sound. When I turn up the drive control the sound cracks up and there is a loud HF whistle. Maybe my pedal isn't working right. Should the overdrive sound smooth? If so I may try getting another one thanks [/quote]the overdrive is a bit on and off, after about 3 o clock it suddenly starts getting all 'spikey', I use a Zoom B1on for this reason a lot more controllable and not much more money, haven't noticed the HF whistle though

[quote name='Nicko' timestamp='1486640439' post='3233425'] So what is appropriate for a band paying pubs? I appreciate a function band will have a more defined/coordinated look, but wouldn't stage gear seem a bit OTT for playing the Dog and Duck? [/quote]depends what you mean by stage gear, look at my avatar, that's what I wear every gig, the rest of the band look like this[attachment=237807:Hairy Dog 1.12.16.jpg] all the successful bands in my area have a 'look' to go with the type of music they play and stick roughly to a certain genre, (Mod, Ska, (very popular is Ska) Heavy Rock etc) remember you can't please all the people all the time, so just try and please some of the people all the time

an ultra Spinal Tap moment a TE amp that goes to 12!, I presume you're talking 10 o clock and 12 o clock here, I've got 2 Trace amps and use another at the rehearsal room and never had this problem but I do tend to have the gain high (passive P bass), full on at rehearsals, might be worth a try

cut the low frequencies, I've found I have to cut 60Hz to cut boom (Trace GP12 and P bass) then boost low mids (100 - 200 Hz) a touch if necessary, but yeah go wireless or a long lead, get 30 feet away from your cab and the tone can alter quite dramatically depending on the room, obviously this is if you're not going through a PA, if I am I go post EQ from my amp, at least I have some control over what's happening FOH, my partner knows what I should sound like and lets me know if things aren't right

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1486571290' post='3232895'] The website is good, it's got all the right content. The gigs page with one gig might be counter productive. I don't think the image of the band works. I realise a lot of covers bands just wear random t-shirts and jeans/shorts but if you're struggling to get gigs, sharpening up the image would probably help. I watched the video for "are you gonna go my way" because it's the only one of the 3 I can stand (sorry). At the very start, the singer introduces the song, but doesn't seem very confident. After it's kicked in, everything seems good, but the sound quality is not great. It sounds like one side of a stereo mic was pushed against a cushion or something? So I would sharpen up the image, get an unpaid gig somewhere (anywhere), get a mate with a go pro to film it, and give the front man some coke. [/quote]yep, I hate it when a band looks like they've just walked off the street. Jeans and T shirts is a poor effort IMO of course, especially from a front man

IMO, and I've only got a Squire VM Jazz compared to a MIA P, the Jazz sounds great on it's own but in a rock band situation because it's a lot more scooped sound it doesn't cut through,the P has loads of grunt around 200Hz, which the Jazz just doesn't seem to have, unless I put the pick ups in series mode

the way I got my Jazz to 'cut through' was to fit a push/pull volume control so I could make the pick ups in series, makes the lower mids more pronounced, a lot like my P bass, which I guess is not quite the idea, but does solve the problem of the Jazz not being heard in the mix

[quote name='Sammers' timestamp='1486375665' post='3231140'] I was there both nights in Birmingham and I thought they were awesome. Considering Ozzy is barely comprehensible at the best of times it's pretty amazing he actually got through most of the set but I think I'd have to agree that he's probably on his last legs with his performances. Had a blast both nights though, so money well spent for me! [/quote]actually there was an interview with Oz before the final show and he was very comprehensible, he's been clean for 5 years (fags, booze and drugs) a million miles away for the shambling wreck he was in the Osbournes

[quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1486296036' post='3230609'] I don't, I go and see tribute bands instead! [/quote]I'm with you on that one, but most folk seem perfectly happy to pay inflated ticket prices to see their heroes on video screens in aircraft hanger type venues

done, but we have the power to stop them, just don't use them, as with inflated ticket prices, supply and demand is what it's all about

[quote name='spongebob' timestamp='1486287699' post='3230513'] Setlist for final show is on the NME site - [url="http://www.nme.com/news/music/black-sabbath-last-ever-show-birmingham-watch-1967589"]http://www.nme.com/n...m-watch-1967589[/url] I've always had time for the Ozzy and RJD albums, some great stuff. I'd have found the tracks chosen a bit disappointing - for a final show. A bit like after all those years of playing, it comes across like admitting that it all comes down to the first 3 albums (with a couple of exceptions) - which I don't believe it does. Wouldn't expect Ozzy to sing Ronnie's tracks, but even for their original albums, it's all a bit obvious. .....and then there's the Bill Ward thing....... [/quote]damned if they do damned if they don't, when you've released as much stuff as they have there's no way you'll keep everybody happy, but I'm guessing that set list would please more people than it disappoints

as said before you need somebody whose good at and enjoys talking to people, our singer (no surprise there) is very good at talking (usually about himself) but he knows loads of people and goes round pubs chatting to landlords and stuff and loves going to gigs, in fact I originally asked him to join the band, not because he was a decent singer (I didn't know at the time) but I knew he'd get us gigs.I occasionally have a go but I'm not a natural salesman and soon get disheartened.