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[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1475084139' post='3142953'] Nah, IMO it was a leap from the start for all the reasons discussed previously. From up North, writing their own tunes, harmonies, look, groove (listen to Cathy's Clown, then Love Me Do. The latter has [i]swagger.[/i]) It's all well before my time, but I know so many musicians 'of an age' who are doing it 'cos of them. This chart sums up the sea change pretty well, IMO. [/quote]I'm not sure whether you're taking the piss or not, that's an American chart, and the description you give could equally describe Buddy Holly, except he came form Texas rather than up north, if you are being sarcastic I do apologise

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1475079758' post='3142901'] More of a leap than a progression, IMO. [/quote]I know what you mean in the later years, say from Rubber Soul onwards, but in the early years it wasn't that revolutionary, very good well written pop records, but not a seismic leap that the period around Sgt Peppers was

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1475076951' post='3142870'] SkankDelver I'm catching a lot of heat here. It's just my opinion. Where am I going wrong? Are folks taking me to seriously? Blue [/quote]the Beatles were also influenced by other artist and those artists were influenced by someone else, it seems like you are giving the impression, that the Beatles started it all, IMO that is, the Beatles were a bigger bang in the USA and they certainly opened the door for the 'British Invasion' and changed everything, especially in the States, but musically they were just a progression of what had been before

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1475070148' post='3142779'] Pages 32-37 ... [/quote]I stand corrected, must admit I never got close to page 32 before I gave up

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1475064163' post='3142719'] 'Play in a day with Bert Weedon'. Is this not espousing the quintessential punk music ethic? [/quote]not unless you're planning on doing a Punk version of Bobby Shaftoe, that book was next too useless, pretending you could learn to play in a day when there was no mention of barre chords (as I recall), I could really teach people to play in a day, it involved a distortion pedal and tuning the guitar to open E

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1475054797' post='3142590'] Your parents let you drive their car when you were eleven ? Top parents !! [/quote] I wish, but they weren't bad, at least they let me have Pick of the Pops on the radio

I like the way it grips the headstock a lot better than my other one

the thing I remember about being 11 years old was driving through Matlock Bath in my parents car listening to Pick of the Pops when Please Please Me came on the radio, it's fair to say I was quite impressed, and, still am

just got mine, works well with my bass, once I'd figured out how to get the battery cover off

[quote name='RockfordStone' timestamp='1474930965' post='3141672'] Are we taking fame or pioneers? The shadows (and cliff Richard) defined rock and roll in the same way Elvis did. And without those the beatles wouldn't have existed. I won't ever deny the impact the beatles had on the music we play, but I wasn't there so I don't really know what I'm talking about I suppose [/quote]the Beatles were far more influenced by American music as were the Stones than anything the Brits were doing, one of the great musical ironies is that the Brits took black American music, repackaged it and were able to sell it back to them, because they were white

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1474905933' post='3141423'] There are some cool covers of Beatle songs.i like Stevie Wonders We Can Work It Out and Otis Redding's Day Tripper. I never prefer or think they're any better than the original versiont.They're just good covers. Blue [/quote]the one exception for me is Joe Cockers version of a Little Help From My Friends

[quote name='Freddy Le Cragg' timestamp='1474748950' post='3140277'] Hamburg Beatles were just all trying to be Gene Vincent from what I gather. [/quote]and Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly etc, etc, early punk was influenced by Glam which was very influenced by 50's rock and roll, the Pistols (or Sid) recorded and had hits with a couple of Eddie Cochran songs, the Beatles Hamburg tapes were fast and raw, just like punk

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1474746025' post='3140246'] I was going to suggest that, but then thought it may be fair to say that The Beatles influenced the punks to not be like The Beatles? [/quote]if you get chance to hear the Backbeat soundtrack or the Beatles live in Hamburg album (wonder when that'll get the digitally remastered and re-released treatment?), I think you might agree that they weren't a million miles away from punk

sorry guys I started this tread just before going on holiday, I was being mischievous, mention the Beatles is like lighting the blue touch paper, I retired to a safe distance, just got back and have sped read the 6 pages of the same old arguments. I love the Beatles ( I was born in 1952, doesn't everybody think the music of their youth is the best ever?) and will undoubtedly thoroughly enjoy the film, I've got the Hollywood Bowl live album on vinyl, probably played it half a dozen times, definitely of historical value only

now I'm a big Beatles fan, but how many times can they keep repackaging the same stuff? Reminds of an Ossie Osbourne quote after another Black Sabbath compilation, "it's like digging up a dead prostitute for one last f***" presumably Paul and Ringo have given their approval seeing as they're helping to promote it, do they really need the money, or is it just the adulation. Apparently George said in 1989 with a sigh "I guess it's never going to end"

[quote name='NancyJohnson' timestamp='1474044696' post='3135287'] I'd concur with Dropzone on the talent front, BUT, given what was supposed to be going down in the guy's personal life (and hey, let's just skim over the general weirdness here), it still amazes me that he continues to get airplay and no one says anything. [/quote]^ this, it continues to amaze me as well that he gets away with it just because he paid everybody off,

don't use nail varnish remover, as our guitarist found out on his Gibson SG

hope you don't play with a pick, it's all in the fingers you know

we bought a PA out of band funds, I know the singer uses it mostly but we do have backing vocals and occasionally mic up the bass drum, when the guitarist and drummer left the band, we all agreed what it would be worth if we sold it (about £400) me and the singer gave them £100 each, of course it could have got silly, but if we'd have to had sold it because of petty squabbling but who would want the hassle of selling it? fortunately they were adult about it, asking a for a new member with a PA (who isn't the singer) is just plain stupid. Oh yeah if one person owns it guess who gets to cart it around to gigs?

buy a second hand Squier and save some dosh, I've never bought a brand new bass you'll never get your money back ( you lose 20% VAT for start) if you don't like it

just a promo exercise to get your details and sign you up for Reverb I suspect

[quote name='Woodinblack' timestamp='1473588012' post='3131344'] Yep, I came to exactly that decision a few weeks ago. I put in my order last week. [/quote] cheers guys, a conundrum, no doubt about it

after a weekend soul searching I've reached the conclusion that spending the best part of a £1000 on a bass that I would have no idea what it sounded like is something I can't do, I've tended to buy second hand in the past which means you stand a fair chance of getting most of your money back if you don't like it, the chances of picking up Marusczcyk second hand anywhere near the spec I'd want is pretty much zero, but I'll keep my eye out

whose going to buy one and do review?, think we had a similar thing with Sue Ryder P's a while ago, being a lefty it won't be me

[quote name='Woodinblack' timestamp='1473449271' post='3130413'] Yes. Yes you should. [/quote]that's not talking me out of it