PaulWarning

not ideal, but if it means staying in the good books of Greene King I'd take it

this is turning into a mirror thread for this http://basschat.co.uk/topic/198205-worst-amp-you-have-owned-or-had-the-luck-to-use/page__pid__3019099__st__300#entry3019099 maybe we shouldn't be slagging off a manufacturers whole range based on one or two models

[quote name='goingdownslow' timestamp='1459460157' post='3016916'] Could have been worse, he could have said Elton John. [/quote] or even Jonathan King

my B1on settings for slight overdrive Bassdrive (everything 0 unless stated) gain 84 blend 32 level 35 mid 6 EQ (again 0 unless stated) 4.5khz -8 10khz -3 level 100 I use this all the time except for Stranglers tracks and Ace of Spades

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1459506297' post='3017173'] I'll see your out of control guitarists and saxophone players and raise you out of control drummers. I know that noise problems mean that it's not easy for them to practice between rehearsals, but IMO these simply no need to bash away at your kit while the rest of the band are trying to sort out the arrangement - especially if what you are "playing" has no relevance to the songs being rehearsed. [/quote]I feel your pain

saw a band last night doing No More Heroes, the keyboard player kept his left hand dangling by his side, sounded pretty good (apart from the bassist made no attempt at JJ's tone )

[quote name='Fitz666' timestamp='1459350446' post='3015682'] Don't forget Laney.... [/quote]I use a Laney R3 head at our rehearsal room and it's quite impressive, took me ages to find out who made it as it hasn't got Laney on it anywhere just R3 on the front and BLT industries on the back

I suppose done in a light hearted self depreciating way it could work, but not the (aren't we a wonderful bunch of musicians) way I've generally seen it done

I've got a B1on and find the bass drive setting quite smooth, don't know whether B3 has something similar

the problem with Sax players (and Harmonica players) they don't know what to do when they're not playing, so they don't shut up, giving them some vocals to do would work (if they can sing) guitar players can be cured by only having one of them, keyboard players can be cured by chopping off the fingers of their the left hand

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1459345836' post='3015630'] I get that with my Trace combo sometimes, usually when I've ended up practically stood on top of it due to limited band space. It just seems to go through you and you don't really hear how loud it properly is unless you go off with a long lead or wireless down to where the crowd will be. I always briefly check my level roughly in the middle of where I'm expecting punters to be stood come showtime. [/quote]I think that was the problem, trouble is if I can't hear myself I just don't enjoy it, gonna try boosting the 300hz range next time

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1459333097' post='3015472'] Yes we all have our own music and costumes etc. I wear a cape and fangs and come on to the monster mash throwing out plastic bats etc into the crowd... goes down a treat at the dog and duck. [/quote]right, I get it now, we've got a song where the crowd throws plastic ducks at us, that goes down well

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1459324899' post='3015375'] We all have an individual walk-on like on the darts... [/quote]can't see the point , that's not good, does someone introduce you over the PA at the same time? it has happened to us but only in a shambolic way, (by accident)

yeah if you can't hear the drums it's stupid, if you need more volume you've got to go down the mic everything up route and a full blown PA. Regarding Rumble 500 v Trace Elliot I've got both, I can use the Rumble as an extension cab for my TE head (150 watt at 8 ohms 200 at 4) if I use a single cab the Rumble is louder but if I use 2 cabs (my other one is a TE 1 x 15) the TE head draws level in the volume stakes, I can get my TE to sound like a Rumble but not the other way round because of the TE superior EQing, the Rumbles EQ section is rather limited

just found this for anybody interested in TE gear http://www.britishaudioservice.com/#!trace-manuals/c1mt9

I've had a Rumble 500 for about a year now, bought it second hand with a transferable 5 year warranty, never had any trouble, I would hazard a guess that if you get through he first few months it'll be ok any faults normally show more or less straight away,, funnily enough I take a Trace Elliot head as back up to gigs, if that TE combo was a 300watt model and ran out of steam your guitarist must have been ear bleedingly loud, I've sold one recently it weighed 35KG edit, just read that the 715 combo is rated at a 100watts, but that'll still be Trace Elliot watts I found this interesting for anybody interested in TE gear http://www.britishaudioservice.com/#!trace-manuals/c1mt9

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1459174357' post='3014095'] Sometimes it's eq more than volume. Trace Elliot gear with than horrible, inherent smily face eq may sound nice on its own, but soon gets lost in a band situation. I did 30 or so jazz gigs with a tiny Phil Jones 75 watt combo. Admittedly not huge venues, but still typical of most gigs that guys on here do, art galleries, marquees and pubs. I never had a problem with being heard, possibly because of its ultra clean sound ? [/quote]first thing I did was turn that off, it was just as bad when I switched to my Fender Rumble for the 2nd half, it's not a question of lack of volume (I only had it on 9 o clock), we do have a loud drummer though, the problem being I was loud enough FOH just that I couldn't really hear myself, very strange, I've never experienced it before (not that degree anyway)

played a gig on Saturday, sound check fine, when we started I could hardly hear myself, which should be ridiculous as I have a stack behind me, so I turned up a notch (trace elliot ) came off at half time and was told I was too loud, well you know what? I thought stuff that if I can't here myself what's the point? didn't seem to matter was a good gig

the curse of sound checks, what sound fine in an empty room will sound totally different when you get some bodies in there

[quote name='taunton-hobbit' timestamp='1459160931' post='3013905'] I've never used Yamaha kit, but a friend who did a lot of hire from his shop swore by it - said it was basically solid & idiot proof. [/quote]this is very true, well apart from idiot proof, I wouldn't trust our singer to set it up but our EMX 512 is very light and compact and given us not trouble at all in about 5 years, good enough for pub gigs

good band will rise to the surface, there's 2 or 3 really good bands in my area(all mod/ska type bands), never short of gigs because they get people into the pub to watch them, if your band is playing to emptyish rooms too often it should tell you something. Crap venues will close down pretty quickly, tbh most bad venues are bad pubs anyway who are desperately trying anything to stay open. Gone a bit off topic here, sorry

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1459076192' post='3013281'] The vocalist of the club band I was in used to introduce us. One evening he said "I'd like to introduce you to [b]my[/b] band". We all exchanged glances and looked daggers at him. [/quote]that's singers for you, always makes me smile when we do one of our songs, if he wrote the lyrics (just the lyrics) he says "and here's a song I wrote" if he had nothing to do with it he says "here's a song we wrote" but as I've said before if he wasn't like that he'd wouldn't be the front man he is

I suppose it's a way of filling in if there's a spot of equipment trouble, it worked at a Quo reunion gig, something went wrong with an amp or something and Rossi said "on bass Alan Lancaster and on drums John Coughlin" now that did work

I went into my local last night, they'd been advertising a roaring twenties night for months, some sort of disco half set up, nothing happened because of the football, I assume something similar happened here, it's just plain bad management, the footy match has been known about for a year or more. We've had gigs where we've had to wait for the football to finish then played to nearly no one because everybody has gone home at the final whistle, we've also contacted venues and asked whether they still wanted us to play "do you realise there's an important England match on the telly that night?" "oh yeah, we'd better arrange another date" comes the reply, tossers.

[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1459010079' post='3012843'] It's a toe curling moment for me, whether I'm a part of the audience or as a band member. I just hate it. [/quote] [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1459011667' post='3012864'] Yep, total cliched cheese fest. [/quote]yep I'm with these 2, hate it, it's even worse when it leads to a drum solo and a bass solo