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[quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1460306683' post='3024538'] I went to see The Dammed play a couple of months ago and the volume was so excessive I was thankful I found my earplugs in my jacket pocket. The volume was such that there was no mix, just an undefined wall of noise. [/quote]that sounds like the Captain on a bad day, seriously I went to see the Damned at Rock City last year and it's the best I've ever heard them sound so I'm surprised to hear that, I sometimes wonder whether they use a PA supplied by the Venue, they should still have their own sound guy though

just thought I'd put my tupenneth in, as in bass playing just because a drummer can't play all styles of music doesn't mean he's a bad drummer, it could mean he's not interested in learning to play music he's not interested in, would you say Macca's a bad bass player because he doesn't do finger style? Our current drummer is a good lad, I once asked him if he could play quieter (we practice in a small room) his reply was "but I enjoy hitting things hard" and if you stop enjoying it you'll soon fall or out of love with playing

can't say I notice much difference between string gauges, I buy whatever is cheapest

[quote name='dood' timestamp='1460284443' post='3024300'] Interestingly, it looks like your graphic is the mirror image of the EQ curve of the BDDI (which I believe is what the Bass Drive effect emulates) - So in a way both are cancelling each other out! I appreciate in the real world it's not as simple as that, but you know... a bit of that might be going on! [/quote]I'll have to check that out, I use the bass drive effect for a bit of overdrive, it certainly adds bottom end

turned up to a gig last night and the landlord said we'd have to stop playing when the boxing came on, so half way through the second set we had to stop so they could put the commentary through the pub pa, cue a chorus of boos and a few left, fortunately it only lasted 2 rounds so we were able to finish the set, if it had gone the distance that would have been it, we were a bit miffed to start with but at least he didn't cancel the gig

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1460281879' post='3024247'] Last year we played with a couple of bands in a local music venue pub. We just played at our regular volume and the room was packed. They turned up to insane volumes and the only people watching them was us - and that was out of a bit of musicians solidarity, though I did stand behind one of the columns in said venue to alleviate the volume slightly. And this is a venue which has music every week, so the people who go there are used to live music - but they all bolted. [/quote]at our local music/pub venue they got there own in house PA and sound man in the end to stop that sort of thing

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1460282218' post='3024258'] What can are you playing through. I like the cut below 120, bit extreme maybe an there's no top end at all so wonder what the definition was like. If it works, it works. [/quote]I presume you mean cab, I use a Fender Rumble 2 x 10 and a 1 x15 TE, I boosted the 2.6k hz for definition maybe I overcut the 1.3khz a bit, I started with less bottom end cut and less top end boost, got a bit extreme by the end of the night lol, funny room we were in a corner on a hard wood raised area, tricky sound check, lot of echo but by the time the room filled up it changed a lot, when I first got the GP12 I thought who the hell needs a 12 band graphic, changed my mind now although the extremes are a waste of time, I mean 15khz on a bass amp?

did a gig last night and was told I was a bit boomy, played about with EQ on my Trace Elliot GP12, I normally cut the mids to get rid of 'boxyness' anyway I showed our guitarist the settings by the end of the night and he says "you ought to put that on basschat should give them a good laugh", so here they are. No TE mid shape, and I use a B1on pedal with just bass drive effect on it, and a Precision bass, we were told how good the sound was at the end

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1460194389' post='3023390'] The proper way to mix for any venue is to get the vocals clear and distinct to the majority of the listeners. Then add the other instruments. It's nonsense to regulate the band volume to the kit. Drummers who can't regulate their volume to appropriate levels need drum lessons. I won't play with any 'self taught' drummers anymore. [/quote]unfortunately, the supply of drummers being what they are, some of us less accomplished musicians can't be quite so picky, not if we want to carry on gigging anyway

tbh, I can't see why bands have to mic up the drum kit in pubs, we do put a bit of bass drum through the PA but that's it and the most heard comment when we come off is "you lot were bloody loud tonight, my ears are ringing" so unless the drummer is playing with knitting needles it does seem unnecessary, to me anyway

[quote name='LewisK1975' timestamp='1460127045' post='3022866'] A particular favourite of mine (being the guy who controls our PA) is when a punter, who's been located completely out of proper earshot of the PA, tells me that our singer needs to be turned up. That's usually where the 'phantom' slider gets a nudge - (push an unused slider up a bit, 'Is that better mate?' - usually gets a thumbs up from said punter) [/quote]I am that punter, usually asking them to turn down the bass drum

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1460109751' post='3022627'] Age-induced deafness changes one's perception, too. Everything is so much more muted and muffled these days; everybody's mumbling, it seems to me. [/quote]i know what you mean, before I switch on my hearing aids was the world really that trebley when I was young? apparently so

maybe it just sounded louder in the 'old days' because everything was so distorted

the thing I learned about it is nobody in the band is truly happy with the end result, well that's my experience after recording 2 CD's, I always remember a quote from John Lennon 'Dining with his former producer, George Martin, one night years after the band had split up, Lennon revealed that he'd like to re-record every Beatles song. Completely amazed, [url="http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=116"]Martin asked him[/url], "Even 'Strawberry Fields'?" "Especially 'Strawberry Fields,'" answered Lennon'.

just got hold of a 200watt series 6 head, alright it's heavy for a head but carrying it with one hand is no problem, used with light weight cabs bloody marvellous, combo's are way too heavy though

not ideal, but if it means staying in the good books of Greene King I'd take it

this is turning into a mirror thread for this http://basschat.co.uk/topic/198205-worst-amp-you-have-owned-or-had-the-luck-to-use/page__pid__3019099__st__300#entry3019099 maybe we shouldn't be slagging off a manufacturers whole range based on one or two models

[quote name='goingdownslow' timestamp='1459460157' post='3016916'] Could have been worse, he could have said Elton John. [/quote] or even Jonathan King

my B1on settings for slight overdrive Bassdrive (everything 0 unless stated) gain 84 blend 32 level 35 mid 6 EQ (again 0 unless stated) 4.5khz -8 10khz -3 level 100 I use this all the time except for Stranglers tracks and Ace of Spades

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1459506297' post='3017173'] I'll see your out of control guitarists and saxophone players and raise you out of control drummers. I know that noise problems mean that it's not easy for them to practice between rehearsals, but IMO these simply no need to bash away at your kit while the rest of the band are trying to sort out the arrangement - especially if what you are "playing" has no relevance to the songs being rehearsed. [/quote]I feel your pain

saw a band last night doing No More Heroes, the keyboard player kept his left hand dangling by his side, sounded pretty good (apart from the bassist made no attempt at JJ's tone )

[quote name='Fitz666' timestamp='1459350446' post='3015682'] Don't forget Laney.... [/quote]I use a Laney R3 head at our rehearsal room and it's quite impressive, took me ages to find out who made it as it hasn't got Laney on it anywhere just R3 on the front and BLT industries on the back

I suppose done in a light hearted self depreciating way it could work, but not the (aren't we a wonderful bunch of musicians) way I've generally seen it done

I've got a B1on and find the bass drive setting quite smooth, don't know whether B3 has something similar