PaulWarning

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1450523340' post='2933542'] I think it's forgotten now, that as part of his 'act', Rotten would actually throw up, on stage. [/quote]I've heard this as well, I suspect he did it once because he was ill and then the McClaren media machine leapt into action, I'm sure I remember reading that somewhere

[quote name='drTStingray' timestamp='1450526309' post='2933590'] I would doubt anyone who was over 18 in the mid/late 70s would NOT remember Brotherhood of Man - frighteningly middle of the road, but sold millions of records and won the Eurovision Song Contest. Punk seemed a bit of a flash in the pan to me and replaced by more musical stuff a couple of years later. I went to a punk gig at a club in Birmingham around that time and not only did it have relentless gobbling between the bands and the audience, great energy and anger but they also pumped the smell of cellulose thinners through the aircon system and showed porn on the tv monitors!! To be honest I much preferred a couple of performances by Dr Feelgood at the same place - no gobbling, cellulose thinners or lame histrionics but as much if not more energy and aggression and a damned sight more musical in my mind, despite it also being fairly simplistic. I always thought the Pistols were just another arm of the Westwood/McClaren empire and I really wonder whether they qualify for the moneca of inventors of a genre. They were certainly the most famous of the time. [/quote]having to learn early punk stuff for the band I play in a lot of it is very musical, don't forget a lot of the bands that jumped on the band wagon had been around for a few years and could actually play a bit, Stranglers, SLF, Penetration, The Ruts and the like, it was when other bands appeared that believed the hype that 'you didn't need to know how to play' that it got messy, very messy. Yes the Pistols didn't invent punk, but Joe Public thinks they did, listening to Anarchy in the UK now it sounds like a run of the mill rock song with sneering vocals

it boils down to the constant advice on here, if you want to cut through boost your low mids 250 - 350 Hz

[quote name='drTStingray' timestamp='1450519257' post='2933498'] I wonder in truth whether the Pistols are any more broadly remembered than, say Brotherhood of Man or the Spice Girls. I very much doubt it apart from amongst devotees of the genre. Certainly kings of outrageous behaviour (very comical at times) - sad and pretty awful at times. Innovative bass player - innovative not - bass player - possibly ............. [/quote]for the uninitiated the Sex Pistols invented punk and are remembered by the uneducated masses, helped by Mr Rotten's frequent TV appearances on things like I'm a (non) Celebrity and, am I the smarmiest man in the world?, Piers Morgan, as are the Spice Girls, not so sure about Brotherhood of Man though.

[quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1450513967' post='2933438'] Lozz is right. I think that may of been part of the reason for them getting rid of Glen, too tight, good and musical lol. Listening back now (after many years) to some of the pistols (old) live performances I'm almost amazed that I didn't notice how much Rottens vocals hold everything together, like it or not he never seemed to forget the lyrics and always gave 100% on delivery. He had pride in what he was doing, could still show a few so called musos's up nowadays. [/quote]I've just listened to Pretty Vacant on the sp**k album, and I know I've got used to the NMTB version but it just doesn't sound as good with the flowery bass line in it

I used them for an effects pedal, cheaper than anywhere else, didn't like it, sent it back post free, and got a full refund, what's not to like?

[quote name='alyctes' timestamp='1450351122' post='2931866'] I can't say enough bad things about "A Spaceman Came Travelling". It on its own is enough to put me off C. de B. for ever. I like some carols a lot. 'Adam Lay Ybounden', in particular, is fantastic. [/quote]guess it wouldn't do for us all to be the same, it's the only C de B song I can listen to

one thing has always struck me as strange if Sid was such a horrible individual how come he was Lydons best mate? who seems to be a reasonable judge of human character

one Christmas song that I can't stand is a Wonderful Christmas Time a typical twee effort from Macca, like Lennon's though

another vote for Fairytale here, also love playing the bassline to Slade's effort, we drag that one out every December, another one I quite like, probably because you never hear it is G G's Another Rock and Roll Christmas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h5VJDO_zZM

[quote name='borntohang' timestamp='1450278637' post='2931296'] Agree with you totally. It was a manufactured outrage and a low effort one at that; the transcript is ridiculously sparse and wouldn't raise an eye today. I'm not sure he even asked a proper question at any point, just talked bollocks. [/quote]I think it was the use of the F word on tea time TV that caused the outrage, I think that would happen even today, but at the time it was the perfect storm

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1450275771' post='2931265'] And after all that here's some specific advice for the OP. The only realistic way that your ex-guitarist is going to get any of his songwriter performance royalties is through the PRS. Therefore before anything else happens he needs to become a member. For songwriters the joining fee is currently £50. Many musicians don't think this is worth paying (although IME a songwriter whose overall contribution to the whole set is at least 25% should make this back in their first year provided that the band is doing at least 30 gigs a year). If he does decided to join get him to supply you with his CAE number and then add his contribution to the already registered songs (if he isn't already, and if he is add his CAE number to the registration) plus register any new ones. That just leaves the question of who submits the set lists. IMO if the band is doing 2 to 3 gigs a month playing mostly self-penned songs, then unless you are doing lots of house parties and similar unlicensed venues, it should be more than worth your while to take the 5 minutes os it requires to complete the on-line form after each gig. If you really can't be bothered then why not email him the set lists and let him do the work? [/quote]cheers for that, although I didn't pay £50 to become a PRS member, is that a recent thing or have I registered for something different? the guitarist has not mentioned it again, I think when I told him it involved actually doing something about it himself he quickly lost interest

Paul Simonon was hired because of his looks when he couldn't play by the Clash look how he turned out, If it wasn't for the Heroin, Nancy Spungden and being a pratt in some parallel universe we could all be discussing what a great bass player Sid is [quote name='KevB' timestamp='1449828749' post='2927205'] Pretty much punk in a nutshell really. [/quote] sorry Kev can't agree with you on that one, people like Segs Jenkins of the Ruts and Bruce Foxton are great bass players, as I've discovered when trying to learn some of their bass lines

I'm still using my AKG perception system I got off ebay with no problems at all, battery life is about 6 hours (1 x AAA)

I use one I got off amazon [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008VEAZ2K?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00"]http://www.amazon.co...ailpage_o07_s00[/url] I find it works well I can adjust the angle and unlike some bassists I prefer my combo off the floor to stop possible booming when on a wooden stage

[quote name='kevvo66' timestamp='1450039470' post='2929115'] Yes agreed yes I now the pistols did God save the queen before anyone says anything I never really got the anarchist stuff like crass and such like ,discharge I think that killed the whole movement and most off us moved with our fave band ,then again most punk bands by that time had developed into more new wavey pop sort of genre [/quote]absolutely, the thing about the early punk stuff was that they were good melodic pop songs played faster and simpler, when Crass, Discharge and the like came along it was just shouty shouty with not much of a melody in there, never really got it, unfortunately mention punk to some people and that what they think it's all about, when originally it wasn't. The Ramones songs are all about the melody line

[quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1450017906' post='2928803'] Dee Dee was a fan of the Bay City Rollers... [/quote]you saw the Rollers documentary as well then, I'm not sure about the link with the Ramones TBH, but at least we got to see a Ramones clip

simple but very effective How Long by Ace

I'll add Segs from the Ruts, how he plays all downstrokes on Babylons Burning I really don't know. Oh yeah and he can do finger style as well

I know the quality might not be there but I just took my laptop along to rehearsals last week, recorded them using audacity and the laptops microphone did the job

lets face it, us lot on here are going to enjoy any bass intro, UK Subs, Warhead. Does anybody know of a BAD bass intro?

nearly forgot, love playing this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1449833440' post='2927275'] I agree, that's why I'm using Barefaced Super Compacts these days. Only 21lbs each. [/quote]yeah, I've got a Fender Rumble 500 and keep toying with the idea of an extension cab at 20 KG it's still quite bulky though, no doubt I'll crack when I see a second hand one

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1449832787' post='2927267'] I've got 2 112's and I generally use both but where only one cab is needed I still set up both cabs and just plug in the top one. Call me old fashioned but IMO a stack looks much better than a lonely cab on a stand! [/quote]couldn't agree more, it's humping them about that's the problem

punk seems to like bass intros, the Damned's Love Song is another one, oh yeah and Neat Neat Neat, let's be honest sometimes it's the only time you can hear the bass