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Don't landlords think this through? free drinks equals a pissed up band and a bloody awful performance, having said that if the crowd are also pissed they probably won't notice or care, funny old world.

not sure if this relevant , I was listening to Gold over the weekend (it's mostly a digital station available in the East Midlands) and they were playing a Day in a Life and it got me thinking, how many other bands get their album only tracks played on the radio years after they were released? Only Beatles nerds would realise they were never released as singles, probably.

perhaps the OP should show the guitarist this thread, would be interesting to hear what he'd got to say, but only if he's thinking of leaving the band anyway

PA is a minefield, we all owned 25% of the PA and other stuff (lights, smoke machine etc) when the Guitarist and Drummer quit, me and the singer gave them £100 each for their share (we had had the gear for a while, so it wasn't worth much more than that), it was either that or somebody had to sell it all and then split the proceeds, not many people have the stomach for that load of hassle.

just reread your original post, the singers not contributed to the PA? why didn't you buy it out of band funds?

I'm also trying to persuade our singer to buy (his own) in ear monitors, then we can dump the wedges.

That's singers for you, we've had/have the same problem, not to this degree, just put your foot down, as Japanaxe says the PA is his instrument, especially if it's just used for vocals, just tell them you haven't got the room to transport it/store it, then it's up to the others to sort it out between them, or just dump the bass bins, do you really need them? we flirted with them for a while but soon decided they were more trouble than they were worth

because until the bad out weighs the good it's worth while sticking with it, having said that we've all got our faults, what are the other band members saying about you? As for being honest with each other, there was a programme on TV recently about bands splitting up and one commentator said "The trouble is band members never ever sit down and discuss problems it just festers away until something gives" this has been the case in my experience

depends how many gigs we've got, there's no substitute for playing live, if you're doing 2 or 3 gigs a month, with more or less the same set, there's no real need for band rehearsals I practice the songs I have trouble with at home along with any new ones, On the subject of boozing, I have a pint at half time then another near the end, our ex guitarist used to get pissed sometimes and, frankly, let the rest of the band down, unfortunately he couldn't see it, or didn't care

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1439818419' post='2845993'] Some of the worse mixes... ..have been when we've hired the P.A in. [/quote]yep, especially on multi band gigs

I don't listen to the bass drum at all, just make sure I'm in time with the song, but I'm that sort of bass player, sort of rhythm guitar on one string probably because I play with just one guitarist, as for the sound at home I don't bother too much, mainly plug straight into my computer and use headphones (the dog is a lot happier) practising is to learn the bass parts not sound good, with the band I just try and make sure I'm cutting through without booming all over the place

[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1439632602' post='2844511'] EDIT: 90s, Nirvana! Hugely influential, even today. How could I have forgotten. Someone like The White Stripes have been influential, but I don't think they have been as innovative as others. There is an awful lot of their stripped down modern blues around today, however. [/quote]Yep Nirvana were influential, they in turn were influenced hugely by Punk, White Stripes were influential after there first couple of Albums, showed you didn't need a bass, bastards

[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1439630008' post='2844486'] IMHO there are tons of influential artists, but you probably aren't aware of who is being influenced. Going back a bit, but look at how influential rap bands such as De La Soul, NWA, etc. were. Dance music pioneers such as Aphex Twin. They defined the sound of a large part of popular music for everyone. I'm sure there are similar bands/musicians now who are hugely influential on other artists, but I don't know who they are. Skrillex? [/quote]I take your point about rap, but it took off in the 80's, I'm no expert but it does not seem to have moved on to another level since then, but yeah I'm sure there are young bands who have been influenced by bands from the noughties, just remembered the Artic Monkeys, they've been influential I guess

everybody's influenced by somebody, if they take it to another level (not necessarily higher, the Ramones were very influential by stripping rock and roll back to the very basics) then they become influential, but I do wonder who has taken anything to another level in recent years

[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1439619463' post='2844378'] I think that after a few generations many people have forgotten the importance of musical innovation, and just evaluate the music with the ears of someone from 2015. And if the innovation has been influential and lasting, then the music will sound more ordinary. E.g. anyone who thinks that The Beatles were incredibly influential then should accept that Buddy Holly and the Crickets were also very influential, as they influenced The Beatles. (Even to the point of The Beatles being a The Crickets me-too band name, but with the spelling change). [/quote]maybe I'm just getting old, but when who was the last really influential artist?in the 50's 60' and 70's they seemed to come round every few years, maybe that's because they were my formative (musically speaking) years

[quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1439562150' post='2843950'] Ray talks about it here wrt Riders on the Storm... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3deQXzV-qTk[/media] About 1:20 [/quote]is that hard to play on bass? I must be missing something (1:50ish)

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1439558302' post='2843903'] They used lots a bass players ... e.g. Harvey Brooks, Ray Neapolitan, Jerry Scheff, Doug Lubahn etc. [/quote]I was under the impression in the early days Manzarek used some sort of combo organ, used his feet I believe

I went off the Doors when I found out they didn't use a bass player

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1439540261' post='2843620'] You don't get left handed violins. You do get left handed guitars. That confuses me. [color=#ff0000]I think the reason there are very few (if any) left handed violins is because of the likelihood of someone losing an eye if there were any left handed violinists in an orchestra[/color] [/quote] [quote name='ben4343' timestamp='1439544148' post='2843677'] (Context: I am right handed) Long story short, if we have to learn a completely new skill set, then I think we can train our other hand just as well as our favoured hand? Or is this simply not true? (I'm happy to be corrected). Rafa Nadal is right handed but tactically plays left handed... [/quote]I take your point, I decided to learn the rudiments of drumming right handed because I couldn't be bothered to change the kit round, but would I be a better drummer if I learnt my 'natural' way, I haven't got a clue, but Macca is on record as saying he couldn't play guitar until he turned it round, so there maybe people out there who've given up playing because they couldn't master it the 'unnatural way' of doing it

[quote name='Subbeh' timestamp='1439487476' post='2843340'] The thing that puzzles me is the number of used left handed basses for sale that are reverse strung, it almost seems like a one in five ratio at times. Do some left handers prefer to play this way or are right handed players the ones setting up lefty basses like this? [/quote]I think it's lefties who learn on a right handed bass just by flipping it then buy a left handed one but have got used to the bottom E being at the bottom

yep, there's been a few threads on this subject, I'm cack handed with most things, and learnt guitar that way, thought it was cool to be left handed (thanks Macca) if I was learning now, with the benefit of hind sight I'd try doing it right handed simply because it's a lot easier getting right handed guitars and basses. Some people think it shouldn't matter which way you play, like 99.99999% of pianists, but would Macca and Hendrix have been as good if they'd learnt right handed? In fact Hendrix could play right handed but not as well.

[quote name='Wylie' timestamp='1438991795' post='2839334'] It's simple: If you weren't there, you can't get it. The music is only part of it. [/quote]being born in 1952 I was there, and at the time to was convinced it was a musical masterpiece, it was only a few years later that I came to the conclusion, that in my view, it wasn't, I'd been taken in by all the hype,

[quote name='indiegrungesound' timestamp='1438985476' post='2839293'] Each to their own, but I love "Sgt Pepper's..." if only for "A Day in the Life"! [/quote]not all Peppers is bad, I don't think Keef was saying that, I too like a day in a life and the Sgt Peppers reprise (it rocks) can't stand Mr Kite When I'm 64 and that bloody Harrison Indian thing, not keen on With a Little Help Fron My'Friends either, although I do admit to the hairs on the back of my neck standing up when Ringo joined Macca on stage recently to sing it

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1438905829' post='2838657'] Both of those songs are part of the Englishness of The Beatles. They are essential to the perfection of Revolver. [/quote] [quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1438950093' post='2838911'] That and For No One are the best songs on the album! [/quote] [quote name='Old Man Riva' timestamp='1438977180' post='2839201'] Agreed.. For me it's [i]the[/i] Beatles album. [/quote]I was expressing a personnel opinion, I didn't expect everybody, or perhaps anybody to agree with me, for the record I think Yellow Submarine is a joke/comedy/childrens song, and Rigby is a Macca/Martin classical recording and to paraphrase Mr Richard(s) makes it a mish mash of an Album, IMO

revolver would have been perfect if they'd left off Yellow Submarine and Eleanor Rigby