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guys read the op's question 'to count me in when playing along with music that begins with the bass coming in immediately'

I see our hero has lost his 100% feedback

11. Don't announce the name of every band member and let them do a little (hopefully) solo, nobody's interested, and if it's well known band they know the names anyway

I've used audacity for that, you can put a 4 beat click track at the beginning, it's a bit of a faff getting the speed right, but it does the job

I was using the minor pentotonic for years before I realised what it was, it just seemed to fit into everything I played, and it's easy to remember, up 2 frets down a string, up 2 frets etc

[quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1391257427' post='2355017'] Do they tell the part where Francis used to bring his Roller to Vicars Cross to see aunty Brenda . A lovely lady , who has been to see my band when we played my mate Petes 50th, so we played some quo in her honor . That must need a chapter all on its own [/quote] err, no sorry I don't recall that chapter

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1391174803' post='2354114'] "mids" to me is far too vague a term. Quite often we see "noooo, don't cut your mids" but without specifying a frequency or smaller frequency range than just "mids" it's a pointless remark. [/quote] As I said earlier round about 400hz

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1391171864' post='2354046'] Usually, what sounds good at home or in solo practice, sounds poor in a band context. Too much bass muddies up the mix, but too little makes the band sound weak (if you are playing on backline only) [/quote] ^ this

if you haven't got wireless get a long lead and stand as far away from you combo as you can, it can sound totally different 20 feet away, if you want more bass don't turn up the bass conrol it could just get boomy and have no definition, boost the mids at about 400hz if you can

[quote name='glefty' timestamp='1390995430' post='2352005'] I'm always a bit mystified as to why we play the way we do given that whatever handedness we are, in our case the left hand is the one with most dexterity, logic would dictate that would be the hand we use for the fingering of the fret board. [/quote] this has occurred to me, maybe the first time anybody picks up a guitar the first thing they do is strum the strings, not bothering about the fretting hand, so you do that with your favoured hand, just a thought, having said that there are examples of left handed people (Macca being one) being given a right handed guitar and not being able to play it till they flip it.

[quote name='witterth' timestamp='1390947226' post='2351711'] I think the "new" line up that has being going (by my maths) longer than the old one is much better and I agree with Frank R. John Edwards is a better player than Alan Lancaster. thats not a revelation surely? when people, for example compare J Jamerson to Pino Palladinos version of his lines for example..... its just not the same, you don't need this explaining do you? different levels of virtuosity. James and Pino have an "understanding". Edwards and Lancaster...Edwards "understands " Lancaster.. it its very different. and its not just three notes (BTW) [/quote] I don't think Edwards understands Lancasters bass playing, Edwards is a different type of Bass player, he plays with his fingers to start with, it not a question of being technically better, Lancaster has a better feel for the style of music, I've listen to live versions of Quo songs, Edwards v Lancaster, and there's just seems to be something missing when Edwards is on bass.

[quote name='witterth' timestamp='1390928259' post='2351415'] A friend of mine works at a venue Original Quo played in the north of England. This person says of Quo/A.L. ( no reason to doubt) that they sent out from the dressing room for "superglue to glue his Pick to his fingers as he couldn't hold it" and that Alan looked "Frail" sounds unlikely but they swear its true. Gaffer taped fingers pictures reminded me of this story and started to wonder ( just saying) [/quote] whether it's true or not he still managed to play ok, I see they're doing even more dates this year, yet another never to be repeated last chance to see the original line up lol, Rossi couldn't have thought it sounded that bad, perhaps he changed his mind when he heard the recording compared to the gutless stuff the new line up churn out

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1390925782' post='2351373'] Ta for the link. Your assessment is spot on. [/quote] no problem, glad you agree with me

thought I'd revive this thread after reading this http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/features/rossi-lets-do-the-frantic-four-again-and-see-if-we-can-do-it-better/ Rossi's saying that Edwards is a far better player than Lancaster, which technically he might be, but after listening to the Quo reunion recording they certainly (IMO) sound so much better with Lancaster on bass (and Coughlan on drums) than they do now, to put it bluntly, they rock with the old line up in a way they never do now. So, once again IMO, Rossi just doesn't get it

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1390916911' post='2351219'] The you have to give your audience something in the live performance that they can get sitting at home listening to your tracks that they have downloaded. Too many bands/musicians still think that standing on stage playing your songs is sufficient. It's not. If you can't entertain your audience you probably shouldn't be clogging up the venue. [/quote] Yep I agree with that, too many bands out there just stand there, playing, looking like they've just walked of a building site, no attempt to interact with the audience at all, bass players are probably the worst offenders too, I blame Bill Wyman

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1390908608' post='2351047'] One thing that slightly disappoints is that none of the other readers are offering any review or comment. What do you all think guys? [/quote] as someone else said, bit too much drugs and sex really, but I suppose if they left that out, it would be a short book, they certainly sold out in the 90's, in fact they've never been the same band since Alan Lancaster left, even on the the albums since Heavy Traffic where they've got back on track, they don't rock in the same way they did before, it left Rossi and Parfitt to turn them into a parody of themselves, just for the money really, sad.

I've finished it, so if the next person, tauzero? pm's me their address I'll send it on

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1390841120' post='2350165'] Any venue or promoter doing their job properly sticks unknown bands at the bottom of the bill and gets in a couple of bands that will pull the punters. We've built up a reputation as a band who are going to put on a bit of a show and can cut it live. We get lots of gigs as a result of this. Without needing to play covers. [/quote] Yes this is very true, but the bands at the bottom of the bill don't get paid very often and some of the biggest bands start off as covers bands, Beatles, Rolling Stones, the Jam, that's one of the ways, in the early days you get a bit of money coming in and get gigs.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1390839156' post='2350121'] Because if you care about music bands are not interchangeable in the same way that one bass is not a direct substitute for another. [/quote] ah, but even if the promoter cares about the music, they've got to make some sort of profit, which is usually very difficult when putting on an unknown originals band or bands.

I don't know whether I'm missing something here but why would venues pay bands when they'll pay for free?

[quote name='Sean' timestamp='1390727788' post='2348569'] This thread ought to be a sticky but only if someone knows what that means. [/quote] sticky, isn't that something to do with internet porn?

[quote name='spacey' timestamp='1390563461' post='2346830'] The marshall DFX 100 transitor head on the clean channel actualy makes a very good loud clean bass head with a vbc 4x12, IMO better than the "bass amps" they produce now. Plus you have the overdrive channel for that boost. This company marshall seriouslly are out of touch with bass players, just make a damned bass head that looks like a damned marshall guitar head, with gold front, logo and I will buy one, the new range looks like something out of a lucky bag. When the best bass amp they make is a guitar amp on the clean channel, they are getting it very very wrong. The VBC is OK, but the transformers blow and it's a door stop, plus it is way over price. So wish this amp company would get it's finger out of it's backside and listen and stop telling us what you think we should play. [/quote] [font="helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#282828"]I've got a Marshall MB4210 combo, which is also available as a head, which I'm well pleased with, I know it had reliability problems at first but I think they've been sorted, mines been reliable enough, even survived being dropped off the extension cab when on my sack trolley.[/color][/font] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Same can't be said for our guitarist, he's given up with Marshall valve gear due to reliability problems [/font][/color]

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1390563887' post='2346842'] Great back saver, been using one for years. Even if I only use it to trundle from car park to playing area it can save on numbers of trips. I don't use bungees, need to be careful when it ocmes to rest upright that the combo on top doesn't topple forward but been OK so far. [/quote] yeah I've done that, no harm done fortunately, I've also been bashed on the head a couple of times when the trolley handle hits me while I'm bending down to take off my combo ouch!

Lidl have got foldable sack trolleys in at the moment up to 90kg load for £17, I've got one of these, I paid £24 for one off evilbay (grrrr), they do the job

just google the word you want to know, I found out what IBTL and other annoying acronyms mean by doing this.