PaulWarning

sorry if this point been made before but I can't be arsed to wade through it all. The record companies have only themselves to blame, they've been ripping us off for years, overpriced CD's when they first came out and the constant repackaging of their back catalogue at full price when there's no recording cost to name but 2, and the artist make their fortunes in the end, if they're popular, from live shows which have jumped up in price now they're not susidised by record sales

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1361303226' post='1984298'] I'd bet there are plenty of "guitar owners" who have written and performed world famous songs that are far more popular than many 'musicians' ever manage. [/quote] I think I know where you're coming from on this one, proficient musicians are sometimes hamstrung by thinking "that's too simple" or "that sounds like something else" and then ruin it by overcomplicating it, Gary Moore once said a great riff is something so simple everybody thinks "why didn't I think of that?"

perhaps he's only got 1 arm and has to use all open strings not Def Leppard is it?

but why was it on theTV, surely more of a Radio prog, I mean, seeing their ugly mugs didn't enrich the experience much and they could have dispensed with the eye candy

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1361284896' post='1983878'] Not really. I just practised until I could play what I had to play. [/quote] fair enough, but I still don't think it's easy

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1361282980' post='1983832'] I'm supposed to be playing 'I Saw Her Standing There' in a set with an unrehearsed band on Saturday and I'm considering taking my recently acquired US P bass with maple fingerboard (nice!). Think I need to do a bit more practice! [/quote] if you're struggling just do the Stereophonics version, nobody will notice

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1361275988' post='1983657'] They are all pretty standard left hand rock and roll piano parts based around Root 3 5 6 8. It's easy. Anchor your miiddle finger on the root then play the other notes with the your index and little fingers. Just flatten your middle finger to play the 4 if there's one in the riff. [/quote] you may indeed find it easy, me? I can't reach the 5th whilst anchoring my middle finger to the root on my big fat P neck and even if I could I might find it gives a muddy sound as the root rings on whilst playing the other notes. You obviously have a far bigger talent for bass playing than me

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1361195175' post='1982506'] I think a more economical version of not returning to the root note part way through the riff makes it much easier without it sounding particularly 'wrong'. I'm not sure if even Macca himself was playing the 'full' version on the e-proms gig that was on the same night on bbc4 as the abbey rd doc. [/quote] following a bit of advice from a fellow Basschater I slowed it down and moved it up an octive using Audacity (the bass being on one channel on the stereo version helped as well) and I think that might be the way Macca plays on the record as well, so maybe we should stop beating ourselves up over it

[quote name='tommorichards' timestamp='1361097133' post='1980891'] Get the pacemaker plugin for winamp. Ive used it to transcribe a few songs. You can slow speed without altering pitch. Its also great for turning slow rock into speed metal [url="http://www.surina.net/pacemaker/"]http://www.surina.net/pacemaker/[/url] [/quote] I use audacity, free and really useful for all sorts of things as well as slowing down and transposing

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1361195175' post='1982506'] I reckon it's a bit easier on those violin basses with their tiny necks, as long as your hands are small enough as well [/quote] lol, that's what I tell myself as well, "I'd like to see that smart arse McCartney play that on a P neck"

was the bass player in the Stereophonics doing an 'economical' bass line to standing there? This is the one I've been unsuccessfully trying to play, at the right speed anyway D--------6-----9-----7--6--------6-----9-----7--6 A--7--7-----7-----7--------7--7-----7-----7------ E------------------------------------------------ G------------------------------------------------ D--------6-----9-----7--6--------6-----9-----7--6 A--7--7-----7-----7--------7--7-----7-----7------ E------------------------------------------------ but I can manage the Stereophonics one comfortably .

God is this still going on? being a child of the 60's I love the Beatles and think they were influential but respect other peoples right not to, just the same as I respect other peoples to think Elvis was some sort of God when I think for the most part he was overated (after he went in the army).

just watched the remake of Please Please Me and the bass and drum sound was spot on, just goes to show it can still be done

just watched all of it and I thought Beverly Knight's Twist and Shout was awsome, and I thought the drumming on Standing There was ok too, still wouldn't do for us all to be the same would it?

being just about around at the beginning of the Beatles thing Please Please Me is one of my favourite Beatles LP's, just love stripped down raw rock and roll which is why punk was such a breath of fresh air in 77. They should have got the Backbeat band to do it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAFBLqfKLng

[quote name='Myke' timestamp='1360852943' post='1977425'] I know this is going against your post.. but I did think his voice was a bit rough then, only criticism I had of it. [/quote] last few times I've seen Macca on the tele his voice has sounded well dodgy, think its time he packed the live work in, same for Elton John and Sir Cliff, Tom Jones and Jagger still sound ok though and even Ray Davies just about pulled off the Olympics ceremony.

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1360790992' post='1976680'] The point is to make room for bass, and use the power of the transient coupled with it's short duration to allow drummers to play more complex kick drum parts that don't lose intelligibility in a busy mix... [/quote] oh right, I think I can see that thanks, but I always thought the idea of the kick drum was to fill out the really low frequencies, but I suppose they're using the bass for that which is why there's no definition, this is where I came in me thinks. But at least I understand the clicking kick drum now, still seems bloody stupid though, but that's fashion for you, looking back everybody thinks "who thought that was a good idea" anybody remember the really loud snares in the 80's? went to a gig the other night and could hardly hear the snare for the tinny bass drum

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1360782448' post='1976497'] What's the point in that? It's the bass drum. BASS- A range of low frequencies. [/quote] precisley, but I'm hearing it more and more, seems bloody stupid to me, I think Metallica started it with Justice for All, could be wrong though

[quote name='oggiesnr' timestamp='1360756490' post='1975838'] +1 So far this year I've given up on two concerts where all I could hear was a wall of drum and bass. I wasn't the only one who left but they'd already got our money so I guess no-one cares. Steve [/quote] They'll care when you don't go back, in general drums are way to loud at a lot of gigs

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1360590889' post='1972835'] What always struck me about the Beatles was the truly remarkable output of great pop songs by ..mostly.. Lennon and Mcartney..and the mostly drivel that those two put out as solo artists. [/quote] I was watching a programme about the Beatles the other night and a young Macca said "we might not be able to write songs when we're 40" how did he know that! mind you Lennon had a good excuse.

just had a quick listen to Suade on teletext and once again as with the Led Zep reunion gig the bass had no definition due to it being eq'd to deep, (I was listening through my HiFi), why is this? my opinion is digital recording, because it has a wider frequency response than analogue the mixers are trying to get loads of bottom end because it initially sounds better (as with the loudness war) but it soon get wearing, older recordings had the bass with a lot more lower mids which meant that you could actually hear what the bass is doing, Led Zep II springs to mind. Oddly this is completely at odds with the modern fashion for having the bass drum with loads of treble dialed in. Any recording engineers on here to explain this or tell me I'm wrong?

but if you hadn't done all the faffing over the years you wouldn't know it was your nivana would you?

Saw Reg and the Troggs a few times, always entertaining, proof that you don't need to be a great musician to make wonderful pop records, in fact imho it helps if you're not

[quote name='barkin' timestamp='1359976078' post='1962639'] If it didn't take me so b%**#y long to learn and work stuff out, I'd do it all standing up... [/quote] I'm with you on that one

below the waist, looks cool though some may disagree, avoids buckle rash this way, trouble is if I leave my keys in the wrong pocket I get dents in the back (of the bass) instead