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so it's actually Liams whinny vocal delivery that gets on your tits, the world is full of dumbed down songs that drunken people love singing along to, I'd be surprised if most of us haven't been there edit, I have the same problem with Guns and Roses, Axel's voice is like fingernails down a blackboard to me, and when drunks try and sing along to their songs it's even worse, most of them can't get high enough

I suspect this is the reason some folk hate all the output of a successful artist, I have the same feelings for Ed Sheeran for instance, but when I actually sit down and think about it, there's nothing wrong with the songs (nothing special either) it's just I don't understand how he's got so popular

don't really understand this hatred for all Oasis output (or any all encompassing dislike of all of a major artist's output), is it the songs that people despise or the Gallagher brothers?, I thought they made some pretty solid rock songs, nothing particularly groundbreaking, but pleasant enough, there's a lot worse out there, IMO obviously.

Mull of Kintyre, fortunately one song I've never heard anybody else attempt (though no doubt someone will now post a youtube link of a cover version). Last year in a moment of madness I bought a season ticket for the first time in about 20 years, for football team I support, Forest (I know, I know, but my Dad started taking me when I was about 8), won't be doing that again, they play this bloody song twice a game, at the start of each half so the crowd can sing their own lyrics to it (mist rolling in from the Trent etc) hate it hate it. The most twee song McCartney ever wrote, from the master of twee songs.

personally, I'd be very wary about buying a bass from the USA, with delivery possible VAT and customs duty it's not that cheap, plus if anything goes wrong you've got real problems

plenty of decent lefty jazzes about, I've got a perfectly acceptable Squier VM, it's precisions that are the problem

In our area that would probably be advertised as 'Open Mic and Jam session', but hey, if it's successful why change it?

I think what @SpondonBassed is getting at is that if people who have played together turn up and do songs they've preplanned whether a soloist or a band, then that's an open mic, a jam is where people who are not used to each other get up with nothing planned and play a song on the hoof

don't know how you tell the year, but I've got SMX GP12 and series 6 GP12 heads, not much to choose between them sound wise tbh, I've also had a 7125 1 x 15 combo (which I got rid off because of the weight) I also use a Trace head where we rehearse, all fine amps, the only T E amp (combo) I've not liked is the commando range, very strange EQ section

it's been a source of annoyance with me for ages, all these cheaper Jazz alternatives and hardly any P's, I finished up buying an American Standard Precision (glad I did now), Japanese ones are like hens teeth. Depends how much patience you've got looking for a second hand one to come up,, the new American Professional Precisions seem expensive to me

number of tunes is no good, tell them they've got 10 minutes, otherwise some of them could be on for half an hour

jam nights and open mic nights are different things but they can happen at the same time, usually they'll have open mic people on as well as the 'jam bands' and sometimes different people will join together at open mics if they all know the same song, but that's not really jamming in my opinion, jamming as someone else pointed out is is doing a 12 bar turnaround so some guitarist can bore the derrière off everybody with their 10 minute (or more) guitar solo, confused? I'm not surprised. As for being cliquey, yes they probably are because the regulars know each other but once you've been a few times and they know you're not going to scare everybody off with your musical ineptitude you soon became a member of the clique, that is friends with the people there. I've got friendly with other musicians in my area by attending open mics, don't do jamming though, I don't generally know the standard jamming songs (or want to) and they don't know mine. "What do you mean you don't know Wishing Well?"

from my own very limited experience of singing you can sing the song better if you know the lyrics without having to think to hard about them or even worse, read them

Ah! the old music stand debate, I don't like it at all, especially for the singer, he's the focal point of the band he should be interacting with the audience not staring at the lyrics, like you say it's crutch if it's there he'll use it, I used to have one when I started doing open mics, I got rid of it, if it's there you'll look at it. Our singer will sometimes have lyric reminders on the floor of new songs we're doing but soon gets rid of them The only time a music stand should be used is if you're depping, otherwise, learn the songs

hope you've got a strong back or a roadie, my eyes are watering just looking at it, if the weight doesn't bother you, none of them will disappoint

I sold one of these too, good combo's, light but cumbersome due to their depth and just one handle on the top, could never quite get the sound I wanted, found the EQ section a bit limiting, I now use a Trace SMX GP12 head with two lightweight Fender Rumble V2 cabs (2 x 8 and a 1 x 12), best of both worlds

that's exactly my position as well, like you say it's surprising how the audience doesn't notice mistakes, on the very odd occasion we've had to start again the crowd don't mind they think it's amusing. According to our singer it happened to the Manic Street Preachers at a recent gig. I once played the whole of Ace of Spades in the wrong key (I'd just change basses because of a broken string and the preplacement hung in a completely different way) I suppose because of the heavy fuzz effect, nobody noticed. Far better to be entertaining than perfect and boring, not saying entertaining and perfect isn't the ideal though, just don't think I'm good enough

thought I resurrect this old thread, I'm still making mistakes, the worst one is when I start in the wrong key, trouble it really gets our new guitarist down (doesn't mention his own mistakes though!), says it's embarrassing and goes into a sulk, didn't have a good night on Saturday (mistakes wise), and at the end of the evening this guy comes up to me and congratulates me on my playing, go figure.

Whatever you're comfortable with, suspect this might be controversial, but it doesn't matter (unless you're a slapper ), I've seen bass players change from pick to fingers mid gig I it didn't make any perceivable difference to their sound, being a punk bass player I'm firmly in the pick camp, with eqing a pick can sound like fingers, listen to Macca

I once sold a bass hard case to a guy, and we got chatting "What's the name of your band then" says I "ZZ Birmingham" came the reply, "Oh, ZZ Top tribute?" I replied "No" he says "We don't do any ZZ Top songs and we're not from Birmingham" Wonder if he's on here?

I think it's a good idea to try and reflect what sort of band you are in the band name, but ultimately like a child or pet name after a while you couldn't imagine it named anything else, I mean there's been some rubbish names for bands in the past that seem ok now, first time I heard The Beatles I didn't think it was a very good name

yeah I was 53 when I started playing bass, although I did play guitar in a limited sort of way before that, bit like my bass playing now

yeah I thought that, then later on starts talking about not using a backline at all and relying on monitors

this can be true, I don't think us pub bands should be so far up our own backsides that we should imagine the only reason people are in the pub is to watch us

this is the thing, there's watts and then there's watts, it would seem 100 valve watts are plenty (never used a valve bass amp myself), 200 watt Class AB amps are enough, but Class D amps seems to need to be about 500 watts, as I understand it anyway, and that's before you start talking about speaker efficiency. Even listening to them in a shop's no good, it's not until you get in a full band situation that you find out if it's giving out enough volume