Stub Mandrel

Most typical MP3 compression used for the web has a 'brick wall' rolloff at 16Khz, and this almost certainly applies to YouTube videos.

There doesn't seem to be a way of becoming a supporting member without the marketplace. There should be a way to be supporting member without the full whack for the marketplace, although I may want to shift some kit down the line...

And every day I read posts saying 'big amps are a thing of the past, everyone DI's bass these days'.

I'll resurrect this thread rather than start a new one. I got an Elf as a backup amp, but thought I would test it at a rehearsal. We play at pretty much gig volumes. I used it though a GR bass AT212 slim. I had to turn it down a bit, ended up about 2 o'clock gain, 9 o'clock master volume. All tone knobs about 1 o'clock Turned up to 3 o'clock it was very loud, enough for any gig I've done, louder and it started to distort unpleasantly. Definitely much louder than my Laney 150W, but not as loud as the Bass Terror. Very happy with it, but the cheap Stagg jack to speakon lead turns out to have a jack plug 2mm too short that vibrated out of the socket if the amp was on the speaker.

Well, the Thunder 1 went down a storm and was really pleasant to play. It sounds 'more precision than a precision'. First time I've played it in a band context, would be more than happy to use it live, although not a very broad sonic pallet, even with the tone rolled back it still sounded quite rich, and I missed my bridge pickup honk.

I have a proper signal generator, but its in a shipping container...

Could have a go, but it will be subjective. The at212 gets 'flabby' by the time you get down to a low b but reproduces it.

Intersting, my little computer speakers became audible at 40Hz, properly sounding above 50-60 Hz although the volume increased up to about 200Hz. Either they or I topped out at 14000Hz.

I am shouting how good my AT212 is from the rooftops. Should be able to bring it to a couple of bass bashes.

I will take my Thunder 1 to rehearsal tonight.

Great job! Are sensitivity figures reliable enough to use? Worth adding a note about tweeters being fixed, switchable. multilevel or adjustable? GR Bass use AES figures for power (which are about 20% higher than RMS, but have the advantage of being properly comparable with other cabs using AES methodology).

I've noticed that the 'remove formatting' button doesn't. It seems when someone using light mode pastes into a message, they create a block of black on white text that is then impossible to make white on dark grey without stripping its formatting in something like word. I'm thinking of the lists in Bass Bash threads that get copied and updated many times.

My brother has my first bass. I'd quite like to gig it again...

The GR cabs are so efficient with solid bass it makes sense to go for the 4 ohm versions.

Polyphonic, tracks very well, no noticeable latency, very simple to use. Sub, upper and dry do what you would expect. The 'mod' knob gives a range of increasingly organ-like whirly sounds as you turn it clockwise, the downside being that there isn't much adjustment of these, but t does add the potential for hamnond-like effects. Main use - just turn 'upper' to max, turn down the others and annoy guitarists by widdling above the 12th fret 😉

Play Mysty for me 🙂

So hands up who has a 'fully optimised signal chain'? I would have thought you should use the same brand of cables, pedals, strap and plectrum for sonic sartori. Certainly possible with Fender. Seriously though, I would expect most same-manufacturer amp/speaker combinations to sound decent, but obviously there are exceptions - a rock oriented amp may not sound at its best when used with the same brand's acoustic-optimised cab. But ultimately, amps and cabs do very different jobs so mix and match has the potential to be better, allowing for the fact that better depends on the musical style, where and how the setup is being used and the preferences of player, group and audience. It's like saying one brand of camera works best with the same brand of lenses, when it's clear the best lens for a particular situation will often be by a different manufacturer.

By the same logic, you probably should be playing a bass that's the same brand as the am and speakers...

None of the above.

You won't be disappointed. I got the AT 212 slim and after five rehearsals with two bands I'm still getting 'that's an amazing sound' 'you must be over the moon with that rig' etc. etc.

Frank Blank - Spirit Of The Bash, bike park Rich - Westone Thunder 1A (tarted about a bit), Tanglewood acoustic 4 - both basses strung with nickels, D'Adds on the Thunder and Elixirs on the ABG. Zoom 509 as a h'phone amp (still can't find the Pandora, I think Mrs.Rich has "tidied it away") and trusty Sennheiser cans wrinkleygit - Jabba’s Semi Hollow Fretless, 112 cab with a lightweight head, possible new addition to the family. Bass strung with Labella flats scrumpymike - FOR SALE: Eden WT550 Traveler; Fender Rumble 800. 'Keepers': my no. 1 gig bass 'Rascal Mervyn-Lyte; 'Rascal Lyte Mkll; Sandberg Cali lV s-s; Mesa Subway TT-800; HandBox R-400; a pair of BF SC3 cabs; a Gillett Contour or two (or maybe even 3) - one of which will prolly be FS. Pea Turgh - My Frankenstein Jazzguarman(!) strung with D’Addario XL Chrome flats. My black bitsa (same strings). Probably my Peterson combo which I’ll flit between selling and not selling (still). Stevie - Ibanex SR1200-VNF, Ashdown RM500, BCbass 112, plus some other bass cab developments (probably) yorks5stringer - Warwick Star Bass Proline (4 string), Status GP Artist (again 4 string), Marcus Miller Micro 101, 1972 Telecaster Bass (poss.), Shuker Course 5 String (poss.) Andyjr1515 - Not yet sure what I will be bringing except my athletic physique and chiselled good looks (and if you believe that.... ) stewblack - Trace Elliot Rig of Death. Ric inspired 'tributes' various amps and basses for sale unless they shift here first. A hernia (probably). basstone - For Sale refurbished Marshall DBS200 combo fitted with beyma 12" speaker. BC v3 cab with G&K MB500 amp. '78 Fender fretless jazz bass with rotosound nylon coated strings. Probably plus one other bass TBD Woodinblack - Ibanez EHB1505, Shuker Uberhorn, Chapman Stick, PositiveGrid Spark amp. Chienmortbb - BC112 speaker, Bugera Mosfet amp, Fender Aerodyne and/or Greg Bennett semi acoustic bass ( might sell if the offers are right). I may even bring my homebrew 500 watt amp designed in conjunction with Passinwind if finished. Cuzzie - tbc MoJoke - whatever demo gear is left over from the month before (Manchester Bass Show), so will definitely have my Casa rig, probably the new Vintage D2 head (which I am thinking of selling the Casa to buy... it’s that good!), and I'll try and bring Markbass instruments and some packs of the new Markbass strings to give away olipaulo - Fender Elite Jazz, Status Empathy 5 and PRS SE Kestrel. Markbass CMD 151P, SWR LA15, GK MB112-ii and GK MB212-ii (the last three are for sale so they may be missing from the bash). Helix LT & IEMs sbrag -- some or all of: Yamaha bb1100s, G&L JB Tribute (Tuned d std), Shergold Marathon, MTD CRB with tone styler preamp (Tuned D std), Tobias Toby Pro, Hohner B2A, Encore Fretless P with Roto tapewounds, Tanglewood Elf, Bugera Veyron T, Barefaced Super Twin T, Various pedals Triumph_Rock - Rickenbacker 4003S5, Sterling Stingray Sub4 HH, Ashdown Little Stubby Amp, Ashdown 15" Cab. Richard Jinman - tbc Stub Mandrel - Fender Performer, Deathburger (sublime to the ridiculous) maybe another bass, GR AT212 slim and Bass Terror. Norm - I'll bring my '98 Stingray 4 (could be for sale/trade), Squier VM Jazz 5, Squier VM Precision 5, Trace Elliot v4 head & Barefaced Vintage 2x15, Roland Microbass & headphones, earplugs & my wallet, looking at what peeps are bringing with FS tags on!!!! BreadBin - not sure what I'll be bringing, maybe my Taurus 4x10 plus rackmount Pre/Power setup. Jimrs2k2 - all the normal stuff, some of which maybe for sale. PhilStarr - BC 112 Mk1, BC110T, BC Easybuild 12, maybe some other self build designs. Peavey MiniMax, Burny Thunderbird (Japanese Matsumoku copy)

Very accurate. Note that the one on teh left isn't looking where he's shooting...

Amended: @Richard R - Brawley Artemis 4, Brawley Artemis 5, EBS Session60 amp, something to weigh basses with. + son with his Westfield of some sort. @Stub Mandrel - Fender Performer, Deathburger (HB kit build), GR Bass cab and Bass Terror. @petecarlton - Mayones Cali4 "Puzzle" Bass; Sterling by Music Man Short Scale Stingray; Gretsch Electromatic Jet Junior 2220 S/scale; Höfner Ignition Violin Bass; Markbass CMD Players School 151 combo @Teebs PRS Kingfisher bass, Godin Passion RG-4 RN (It haz arrived! ) @bassmansam - Rickenbacker 4003s, Eppy Thunderbird Vintage Pro and Ashdown ABM 500 2x10 combo @jebroad - Not-fender jazz (maybe), squire silver series jazz, old Kay SC, Dingwall combustion, Ashdown 8x10 (Maybe) @Jabba_the_gut - 27" mini basses, Short scale telebass, whatever else I build by then, TC RS210 combo. Cakes @Oldman -RUACH NT 35” Unlined Fretless Custom, head and cab @NickA Since the last one.. got a second Wal with an extra string and those weird metal things in the fingerboard ( supposed to help you play in tune I think, but cause all kinds of problems ). So, yes, please. I'll be there; Couple of Wals and some pjb amps. @Geek99 - POSSIBLE ... Ampeg AMP, bass-doc built relic P, homemade jazz with geddy lee pups, zoom b2. @Sarah5string Count me in. Dean edge pro 5 bass, Ibanez sr505 bass, little mark III amp, ashdown ABM 115 cab @verb Warwick Corvette and a TE Series 6 amp. @nickmew Dingwall Z3, Sandberg California II TM5 Fretless, Hofner Club, Roscoe Century+ 5 and probably a Phil Jones Double 4 as I'm not dragging along my big rig. @tauzero Perm a few from Warwicks, Seis, Variax, and Cort. Maybe some bass pedals too.