Stub Mandrel

I'd be very surprised if Boss don't do all this in the digital domain.

You need the conversion software like Midi Guitar 2 as well

Mostly just 'wonderin' aloud'. The Jamorigin software is £87 both both guitar and bass versions. It's polyphonic but needs a quality interface rather than working with the a soundcard but I have a focusrite Scarlett 2i I can use. It will let me use my Ignite and Abelton Lite plugins, including amp and effect modelling. Sounds fun, but the SY1 is a lot less hardware...

How long does it take to detect pitch? At 120 beats per minute a quarter note lasts 500ms, a sixteenth note 125ms or just five wave-cycles. The minimum must be two zero crossings - half a cycle. For E1 that's ~1/80 of a second, or 12.5ms. In practice two in the same direction is more reliable (most real world waveforms are somewhat asymmetric), so 25ms. If you guess after half a cycle then refine each half cycle after that the minimum delay is going to be 12.5 + a bit milliseconds. For a low B you are looking at 16.7 and 33 milliseconds. Apparently the human ear can detect a delay of 40ms* so to avoid latency on low notes it looks like you ideally have to get it right in one wave-cycle. *I did read along time ago that we are very sensitive to sounds arriving early (e.g. the bang before the flash jars) but accept slight delays (because we regularly experience these in real life whenever we see the distant source of a sound).

Whack!

Strictly speaking, 'bass' is an adjective not a noun. When you tell someone 'I play bass' they shoudl ask 'bass what?' 🙂

You never know when 'Come into the garden, Maude' and 'Mad Dogs and Englishmen' will come in handy.

1:16 scratchbuild. Must get round to finishing it - I typically take about 20 years to build a boat. I did 3D print new turrets this year!

I tried Migi, it doesn't work below ~A/B on a bass and struggled with a guitar but part of that might be my setup

Do we know each other? If you were in Aberocsoc you would have known me as Joey - probably.

Careful observation also reveals that bass appears to be his instrument of choice 🙂

I was about to hit 'buy' but " The G2M is designed for solo instrumental lines meaning it does not support polyphonic input (i.e. it will only detect solo guitar notes - not full chords). " I think I will try this with my focusrite: https://www.jamorigin.com/

Yes but you're a Yankee hoodlum 🙂

🙂 Perhaps I should have said 'sound making bits'

Yes but if you got rid of all the sound processing bits?

Wouldn't the ideal be a pedal that uses the SY-1's polyphonic engine to output general MIDI through a USB lead, then you could hook up to a laptop and play sound you wanted. (I've been playing with a cheap as chips mini keyboard and ignite today).

Cripes that's not bad for a couple of hours, what did you use?

Just Tich hornblocks! Plus I calculated the motor power to give approximately the same hauling power as a Tich or Rob Roy.

Interesting! Personally I think of an EUB as very different from a standard bass which I tend to think of as closely related to guitar, because of the shared construction.I'd gold up the mando-bass as evidence - tuned the same but clearly from the family mandolin - mandola - mando-cello - mando bass. Of course it's a bit odd as the double bass is a bit of an 'instrument out on its own', as the obsolete viola and bass violin (tuned in fifths) are more closely related to the violin - viola -cello family, although it bears a strong resemblance to them and is played. Unlike in biology where lines of descent are clear, with instruments it's easy for things to cross over and be novel. The defining feature of the guitar is that it's a chordal instrument and its tunings reflect this. The bass is primarily designed to be played monophonically (notwithstanding guitar solos and bass chords!) and perhaps the thing that distinguishes it most from the guitar is that it is (almost) always tuned in fourths, whatever the number of strings.

Just to show that both terms go back to the early 19th century:

Some interestingly convoluted definitions on the internet - usin g different definitions to make or score points. Personally I consider them to have the same meaning. But this is interesting:

OMG! I remember watching that demonstration of a sampler with dog barks on Tomorrows World! Must have been pre 1980.

True confession... reading this thread has made me turn off Planmet Rock and put on Tainted Love instead. (Back in the 80s it was the only disco song all us rock types would dance to! Oh who remembers the Aberystwyth Pier Disco circa 1982) <edit> Found the proper one - I'd love to get some of these 'dark' sounds from my bass:

If you leave rough cut up on Soundcloud, someone will share/pirate it. Might only cost you a couple of dozen sales but...

I've learned loads of songs over the last six months. I find Ultimate guitar easy because it allows you to quickly change between versions (some songs have eight or more tabs, they can't ALL be right). There are several types, the best are pretty accurate and give an idea of the rhythm. Some just give you little more than a set of riffs and a few are people 'interpretation'. Many have minor mistakes, most have bad fingering choices, and a proportion are just totally wrong. At the moment we are trying to build a setlist of about 40 songs, so lots of playing songs on YouTube and trying to sight read the tab (it can be done and makes me even more convinced I'm dyslexic when it come to the dots!) The worst songs are the really complex ones that don't have a clear bass-melody to stick in your head. For complex ones I find Troy's bass covers on youtube are good: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQPqVw7y59QuPZdQ6QkuXKQ You can slow down 50% and play along to the sub-bass to learn hard bits 🙂 I find there are two separate things to learn, which rarely go at the same speed: learning the technical bits and learning the song, ideally you want to be good enough so that if dropped in at a random point you can join in quickly (i.e. if you get lost playing with others you can recover and make it seem like you put in a jazzy little fill...)