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I've seen a couple of guys using PJB cabs and they sounded pretty good to me. I'd still go for the multiple 112 cabs though.

Have I read this right, your wife doesn't like you dumping your gear in the hall? So don't do it. Sometimes my gear sits in the hall but usually I'll load the car without using the hall as a staging post and I always put the gear away after a gig. My wife's pretty good. She has more stuff dotted around the house than I do so we have an equilibrium. But as I have commandeered a biggish part of the front room for my gear my aim is to keep life as confrontation free as I can.

Not me!!

. . . . and another 30% if they moved production to China, but why would they want to do that? Their business model works. The company appears to be very successful in making high quality hand made custom bass guitars. They probably have a waiting list of several years so why change anything? The original question is naive. Why do Montblanc pens cost more than a Bic, why do Bentleys cost more than Dacias and why did Abramovich pay £340,000,000 for his boat when he could have been messing about on the water in a Bestway Lite-Rapide X2 for £140? I understand that people can love McDonalds rather than steak but why would McDonalds lovers think they have a point in questioning the existence of steak and the people who want to eat it?

Yep. Totally subjective which is why I don't understand the level of ire being expressed. I wonder how many have actually read the interview or are just reacting to the question posed afterwards.

Daltry's definition of Rock probably doesn't include Brit Pop or the Ramones. The bands who started Rock in the late 60's and early 70's were special and unique. Al Krow asks a question that is different to what Daltry said or probably intended so don't think Daltry said there was no good music after 1971.

I made the same comment about the jack socket interfering with the clean lines on Talkbass when the model came out several years ago and Fodera replied that a side mount would have interfered with the way Anthony Jackson holds the bass as he plays sitting. So basically it's his choice. About the price. It is what it is. This is an instrument made to a level of detail and quality that is unique even in the boutique bass industry. It is plainly more than wood and strings. As with any product at any level the price reflects the intended market. On the other hand they are dead cheap in comparison to the prices of classical instruments . I have played a couple of Fodera basses and it was a special playing experience. They are stunning.

Looks like it's a non-problem, but the only wisdom I have is to suggest you direct the question to Alex at BF.

If this is true don't keep it.

Ask any drummer what they thought about the kits provided!!

Most 212's will sound good enough for a rehearsal space. If moving cabs is an issue I'd look at some good lightweight 112's. For very loud bands I used a Berg 312 (212 and 112 together). I only need 2 of my new "super" 112 cabs to reach the same volume.

They'll have to be giving it away, more like.

I spent way too many nights with countless bands in that place. Maybe condemned by the Council, at last.

It wasn't mine, but yes one of these was the preferred cab in that shoot out, and IMO rightly so. I still miss it but even though it was only 46lbs my back was beginning to complain. Bergs are quality cabs with a fantastic sound in all of their ranges and formats.

From Charlie Parker to Herbie Hancock the Jazz greats all trade 4's. Isn't it another arrangement device to feature players "doing battle" in Jazz? The great Blues guitarists (T Bone Walker, Clarence Brown etc) used to "battle" and I believe it still happens in Rap.

My last 212 was a Bergantino CN212. One of the best cabs I've owned.

Ah, so we've woken the most anti Barefaced person on Basschat. Al Krow, I'd suggest both you and the OP run a search on Barefaced cabs and read what actual owners say about their cabs in real gigging situations. There have been a couple of positive posts in this thread that seem to have slipped under the radar.

I used to know someone who took his double bass to gigs in the back of an S1 Bentley.

I can't comment on your preferences or experiences with amps and cabs or your choices regarding your own sound. The OP is looking to replace a 410 with a 112. There are cabs that will compete and cabs that won't even come close. Others can put up their own suggestions. A BB2 is an 800 watt cab putting out 127 dB. Alex gives a comparison between this cab and a 410 on the website. The OP doesn't give the model number but Ashdown 410's range from 450 watts to 650 watts and no SPL figures given. I assume the OP isn't running his cab at the full rated power, or else he would have blown it long ago. Realistically max figures are rarely reached unless you're looking at much more expensive cabs, so the BB2, the SC (600 watts and SPL 127 dB) or Two10 (500 watts 125dB) are worth investigating as a realistic replacement. The BB2 was sorely lacking? I haven't seen any other comments or posts anywhere that have described any BF cab as that. You don't have to like them, but "sorely lacking"? That surprises me.

Try the Barefaced Big Baby 2. A BF cab is the only 112 one cab solution I know of that will keep up with a 410. Also the BF Two10 will probably equal the volume from your 410. You might like the TB500 in your current set up but your overall sound will change significantly with any new cab.

Why spend money rather than adjusting the volume control for free? PS I'd also suggest that before anything is plugged in on stage the volume is turned down. Then you can turn up without getting any nasty surprises. Especially guitarists and whoever is setting up the PA. I usually put my earplugs in when the PA is being set up because there is usually an ear-splitting shriek of feedback when powering up at full bloody gig volume!!

Sounds to me like this has already moved from a bunch of mates making music to a band run by one person. That's no reason to leave but you might want to consider selling the PA to the band.

Budget? You can look at older equipment but IMO the gear being made today is as good and in many cases better. I'd be looking the Basschat Classifieds for good gear at good prices. There are Mesa Boogie amps and cabs, Bergantino cabs, a couple of Genz Benz amps. Some TC, GK, Ampeg, Ashdown and TC. You'll sound good with any of these and IMO separate amp and cabs are better for upgrading and adding cabs. For live work you'll need a 500 watt amp for a full clear sound and enough speakers to carry your sound throughout the room. You might need to project your sound on some gigs even if you have use of FOH on others. Hartke Hydrive and Fender Rumbles are good to start off with. So are GK, Ashdown and Markbass. You can spend more on great amps and cabs like the Quilter BB800, Mesa Boogie and EBS. You will not have any problems sounding like a million dollars with Barefaced, Aguilar or Bergantino. These are my opinions and none of this is set in stone. There are guys using boutique gear who sound average and guys using cash converter junk who sound good, but it's easier to sound good with better gear. We can tell you what we think but you'll have to put in the time to try gear out or see what suites you. Check out local bands and see what gear they are using. Hear someone making a sound you like and ask them about their sound. Most bass players will be happy to talk gear on a gig.

Best advice in your budget. . . . get another Hydrive112. Also check out a Hydrive 210 to run with your 112, I've had good results putting 112's and 210's together. Where are you based?

If you like the band as a musical unit then stick with it. If you think the band can only gig with one set of musicians then it seems that the rest of the guys have a different opinion. Bruised ego, dented pride or reality check? Dunno. If you think this is an assault on your ego I'd say get over it. I read it that the band is just trying to do a gig under difficult circumstances, which were beyond everyone's control. This is a reality check. No one in any band is indispensable. Look at Peter Gabriel, Roger Waters and Brian Jones. IMO the advice you're being given in this thread to throw your toys out of the pram and tell them where to go is bad advice. I've seen guys do this, it never turns out well, and they always look rather silly.