chris_b

I think this has been posted before. . . . but still worth another listen. . . .

Bobby Patterson. . . the timing's all over the place but the energy just jumps out of the grooves. . . Makes no sense to me but just sounds like they're all having a funky good time. . . .

Charlie Chandler in Hampton Wick is very good, as is Martin at the Gallery.

You can see printed on the back of this amp, by the speaker outputs 4 ohm minimum. That means you can run either 1 or 2 8 ohm cabs or 1 4 ohm cab.

Mine has a killer sound as well. The MetroExpress range is supposed to be fitted with the regular pickups and preamp, the same ones used in the NYC basses, so (hopefully) there should be little difference in the sound. With the guaranteed weight being less than 9 lbs I'll be very interested to try one out.

I'd say you don't need this bass then.

When you get to the point where your bass isn't holding your attention. . . . upgrade it for one that does.

I used Dunlop 65 polish on mine. They cleaned up pretty well.

I have bought all sorts of strings in the past, but these days I always make sure I use the strings that make me sound the best I can sound. IMO a good set is less than a gig's worth so don't sound less than your best for the sake of a couple of quid. I have tried other rounds but I keep coming back to either DR Lo-Rider or Hi-Beams and TI are the best flats I've heard so I'm using a set of those.

Blue, you're good. I believe the question I was answering was, can you get 4 ohms out of an amp by using 2 cables from both outputs on the amp into both inputs on an 8 ohm cab cab.

. . . . . err. . I did. You even quoted my questions, both of them!

More drivers can mean more volume and better tone, but it really depends on the design of the drivers and the cab. I thought we were in 410 territory, but if you're up for a BT2 then IMO there aren't many cabs out there that will be able to compete with one of those.

It depends on how sensitive the new cab is. You could probably go a little louder without distorting your sound but (as Lozz says, depends on your choice and the rating of the cab). You might also find another cab that gives you a better tone, but the difference between 500 and 800 watts will not be as much as you expect. Won't be a 50% increase in volume. I used to own an Epifani 410 rated at 1000w and I still needed to add a 210 in one of my bands to get enough volume for the mad guitarist. You can add a 210 to your 410 which will give you more volume and tone. Just remember to keep to within the spec of the 210, ie don't over drive the smaller cab. That's still 2 cabs and is probably the cheaper solution to your problem. But if pure volume from a single cab is your requirement. . . . then the cab I was referring to in my previous post was the Barefaced Four10. That is the only 410 that I know that will get close to an 810 is terms of clean volume. I have the Two10 and they sound pretty good.

I don't understand what you're confused about. Looks like you are daisy chaining 2 8 ohm cab, or maybe you are running 2 leads from the amp, one to each cab. Both of those ways of cabling cabs looks the same to the amp, and that looks like 4 ohms to your amp. Blue, what is the problem?

What's your point? That he should have is money taken away because he's not a nice person and is in jail? He'll be out in about 8 years so unless he is to be funded by the UK tax payer, which I'd rather he wasn't, I'd vote to let him keep all the cash he gets.

Sorry, doesn't work like that. An 8 ohm cab can only be 8 ohms. The difference between 4 ohms and 8 ohms is not that big and won't sound twice as loud, but if you add a second cab you'll sound louder and get a better tone, because of the extra drivers moving more air.

One of the gen1 Compacts was in the GTG cab shootout that we did a few years ago and to my ears it sounded as good as any other cab there. I haven't gigged one though. For the last couple of years I've been using 2 Super Compacts and I have played both on nearly every gig. IMO they just sound bigger and better, even with the volume turned down. Now I'm also trying out a Three10 (Two10 and a One10) on some of the smaller gigs. So far these are making a great sound together.

Upgrading your 4 ohm 410 cab to another 4 ohm 410 cab will sound different but really not much louder than you are right now (unless you get a cab containing more sensitive drivers). Upgrading from 1 4 ohm 410 to 2 8 ohm 410's will add much more tone and volume, because you got more drivers to move more air. If you want to stay with one cab you'll probably need to be looking at cabs built with different design objectives. Does your budget include the current cab? By that I mean do you have to sell this cab before you can but the next one? If not and you can stretch to another £100 you can get a far better 410 than the ones you mentioned, and your 800 watts wouldn't even make it break into a sweat!

You might not have bonded with the LM2 but even this amp with a second cab will sound better than with one cab on its own. Two cabs will have a "bigger" tone and sound louder than if you simply buy a more powerful amp. Also a 5 string bass will sound better with more speakers handling those low notes.

Hershey? Galaxy? Belvas?

This is all very silly. Fender aren't trying to rip anyone off, they are trying to survive. They are repositioning their ranges and (hopefully) addressing the issues of the past. If these are better made basses (and they'd better be or Fender is gong out of business) then they will be worth the price. If anyone doesn't want to pay US prices then they have less expensive ranges (which I hope will be better built as well) to choose from.

2 cables will not get you 4 ohms. Only 2 8 ohm cabs will get you 4 ohms.

Of course this guy is an idiot. I hope he doesn't buy anything made in China. To do so would be to support a nasty, vicious, totalitarian state the crushes personal freedom under foot.

The original Clapton version of After Midnight had Carl Radle on bass. Clapton nicked Carl and the rest of the Delaney and Bonnie band when he formed Derek and the Dominos. PS Carl Radle was also in the Mad Dogs and Englishmen band with Joe Cocker and Leon Russell.

I regularly see guys putting far more energy into their plucking and fretting than I do. In spite of that I still can't play with an ultra low action. That's why I called it a "relatively" light technique. I don't pull the strings hard when I pluck but I can still get some buzz if the action is too low. Which I find it can be when the bass comes back from the Gallery. The bass still feels much better after they and me have made our adjustments.