chris_b

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Develop your sound. Make it a good one then use it on everything. No really, everything. Make those songs yours. James Jamerson, Duck Dunn and Nathan East have played on a thousand hit records (I'm grabbing that number out of the air but it's closer than a few hundred) and probably several thousand that weren't hits, over the last 60 years and between them they have used 3 tones. That's one each for all those different songs they played for so many different singers on so many records and over so many the decades. If someone wants to play 20 songs on a cover band gig and use 20 different sounds, that's OK. Totally unnecessary, but OK. IMO you'll be a better bass player if you sound like you. That's what the pro's do.

If your are in Joe Dart and Nathan East's league then more is more and that is always a good thing. For everyone else, less is more is just a polite way of telling you to stay neat and tidy and don't stray into a musical version of verbal diarrhoea.

My main strap is a 3 1/2" (90mm) wide Harvest strap and isn't padded. Funnily enough, my padded strap isn't that much more comfortable. IME the width is important to spread the load but if you really need a good strap to help with physical limitations you really need a lighter bass. My main bass these days weighs less than 9 lbs (4kg). I've sold some fantastic instruments because of the weight. It is what it is. A 7lb (3.5kg) Sadowsky is looking pretty inviting these days.

I know what Ivan is getting at. I have preferred US musicians since I started listening to music. They usually had/have such a great groove that wasn't/isn't always readily available over here. I put it down to the long hours they had to play, like Blue's usual 4 hour bar gigs. If you're playing for that amount of time you either get good or quit. Like our band that played 5 3/4 hour sets Mon to Thu and 6 sets on Fri and Sat for nearly a year on the US airbases in Germany. We were bloody good at our job when we came home. In the US they did marathons, in the UK we did sprints.You play less and more effectively when you know you've got another 4 hours to go. IME the guys Ivan talks about were more prevalent in the 70's. I generally find better players around these days but I mostly play with pro or ex-pro players and that really is a big difference, not in ability but attitude and effectiveness.

At 1.02, and throughout the video, there's a bass player with a beard. Kat? Your letting yourself go!

For 10 years now I've been posting about the positive effect that "less is more" has on most bass playing. Don't overplay, get a great tone, embrace the spaces in between the notes and make every note effective. I've also seen Nathan East and several of the LA session guys say that on every session you have to "leave something on the table", ie play something memorable, a hook or line that grabs the attention. There's so much more to playing simply than just simple bass lines.

He probably [u]is[/u] talking about serving the song and not overplaying. . . and I agree, but if that is his point, that's what he should have said. My last gig was a Reggae band and the one before that an SRV Blues/Rock band. I always serve the song and rarely overplay but on both gigs you would have heard me loud and clear 2 post codes away. Never be unheard on any gig or go unnoticed in anything you do.

You have to hoover out the inside of your amp? Really? I've never done that. I can see through the ventilation slots in my amp of a few years, TH500, and it's clean. All my gear lives in cases when they are not being gigged. Seems to be enough protection.

Yep. Very slow.

[quote name='LeftyP' timestamp='1500845949' post='3340622'] [b]Kat Ades[/b] of the band [i]Other[/i] [i]Animals[/i]. She says, "The secret of playing bass well is to not be heard when you're there, but be missed when you're not." [/quote] Really? I don't believe in that one at all. He wouldn't last 5 mins in any band I listen to.

So you're playing all the right notes in all the right places. That's a good start. Many people struggle with that one for years! Try and play what other players play but don't try to sound like them. Do it all sounding like you and in the end you'll have developed your own identity on bass. Keep playing and building up your mind/ear/hand coordination. It sounds to me like you're ready for the next step. Playing with other musicians. Find where your local jam nights are and start checking them out. Join a band. Don't be put off by anything. Just keep working at it and you'll be improving every second you're playing.

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1500730857' post='3339853'] Last night after a (moderately successful) gig I exchanged pleasantries with a few punters, got paid, loaded up the car and then had a 45 minute drive home. Not at all unpleasant, but hardly party central...! [/quote] Well, yes. Same here. . . I was remembering the old days. Some days the high point of the evening is looking forward to R4 or the World Service on the drive way home.

Put me down for a ticket.

OK, I'm splitting hairs. . . a bit. I'd class playing along the lines of satisfying, gratifying, rewarding etc. The bands I've seen "having fun" have usually been pretty hit and miss. Which is why I was trying to emphasise the difference. But, true, everyone to their own. On the other hand, fun is what we all definitely had after the gig. Party time? Oh yessss!

Just trying to make the point that the best music is made by people who are not having "fun". Bob Dylan, Charlie Parker and Mozart were probably having more fun than we've ever seen, but not when they were making their music. I'd say that fun, enjoyment and satisfaction are very different things and probably shouldn't be mixed up when you're playing in a band.

[quote name='pfretrock' timestamp='1500668688' post='3339573'] Do you know if the humbucker is series wired? A parallel wired mod might help, costs little if you can solder and is reversible. [/quote] This would be my first plan. 2nd plan would be to replace the humbucker with a good vintage 51 style single coil or even a split P bass pickup. I wouldn't start chopping the bass about until I'd discounted either of those mods. In fact if I was unhappy at any point (including right now) I'd look to replace the bass with one I preferred.

Bill Shankly was right when he said, "Someone said to me 'To you [i]football[/i] is a matter of [i]life[/i] or death!' and I said 'Listen, it's [i]more important than[/i] that'. Sorry to be boring, but anyone playing a musical instrument just for fun could find a dozen easier ways of amusing themselves. You can have as much fun in your life as your body and mind can take but IMO when the gig starts the focus is only on one thing. Return to your fun after the encore.

#4 If anyone is making money out of my bass playing then I'm going to get paid as well.

Love all of this. Pimps, Zooz, DDBB love it.

Darryls House is a great idea. Amazing players just jamming. I've watched them all and many more than once. Stewart Copeland has a similar idea out at the moment. . . . at Sacred Grove.

[quote name='ivansc' timestamp='1500625665' post='3339139'] I would settle for just looking like Daryl, [/quote] Not bad for almost 71. Edit - cos I can't add up!

Very nice bass. Yes they do come in solid wood bodies, so that looks like a regular mk1 Custom. Sorry to hear about your hand injury. The only 2 guitarists I know of who had hand injuries and developed great and unique styles around those problems, were Tommy Iommi and Django Reinhardt. Good luck for your recovery to guitar playing greatness.

[quote name='Si600' timestamp='1500541697' post='3338539'] One thing i have noticed from the Midlands Bass Bashes is that when someone else plays my bass through my amp it sounds exactly how I want it to sound. When I play it, it doesn't.[/quote] That has also happened to me. So buy good gear and trust yourself to get a good sound out of it. Check with people that they are hearing what you want them to hear and be happy because unless you really are tone deaf, you [i]are[/i] sounding good. Most semi pro players sound good. That wasn't the case when I started and the crappy gear most of us used would really drag the sound down. These days any bass playing problems are usually in the playing and mostly in the timing! You can sound as perfect as you think you can get but you'll piss all of that "perfection" up the wall by playing out of time!!

[quote name='PaulGibsonBass' timestamp='1500158337' post='3336029'] Is anybody 100% happy with their tone? I've spent many years and lots of money on different amplifiers, different cabinets, different basses, different strings, countless hours on my technique, and the closest I've ever got is a tone that's just ok, one that I'm fairly happy with, but not one that totally satisfies me. I wonder sometimes if I'm just chasing something elusive but ultimately unattainable - subjective perfection? [/quote] IME there's no such thing a a perfect sound. Maybe some of the best bass sounds can be achieved in the studio and they have probably been achieved by going direct. On a gig? I don't think so. I don't know what music you're playing but while aiming for "perfection" might seem like a good idea, it will probably deflect your focus from the real job of being a better player. On the other hand, I'm very happy (100%) with my sound. . . . because I don't slavishly try to attain a mythical "sound in my head". Every time I change the amp, cab or bass the sound changes, but that doesn't matter because these days good gear always sounds good. I don't have a unique sound and don't use pedals, but I do buy good gear and try to get the best sound out of it that I can. Then I try to work on my playing. IMO that's where a player can aim for perfection and get results.