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I didn't see it but Stuart Zender used to play bass for Ronson.

As Townsend said, "It could have been better, but it's as good as it is".

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1435570623' post='2810016'] I wasn't sure how well an act like that would translate to bigger stages and having seen a bit of the Glasto footage I'm still not sure. [/quote] Were we watching the same program? What more could Ty Taylor do? He owned the stage, audience and the sound tower. What more could you want?

[quote name='jonnythenotes' timestamp='1435578583' post='2810125'] It's outrageous to knock these guys [/quote] Rich, there's enough negative posting here to warrant some extra positive posting to balance up the thread. This post also addresses the ageist crap some of us have to go through on a daily basis.

[quote name='booboo' timestamp='1435571110' post='2810024']no one will ever replace the manic loony energy of Kieth Moon in full flow. [/quote] Of course. And no one can replace Entwistle. So that's why they are not trying to. Makes sense to me.

Don't hit the strings so hard.

The BBC missed a big trick there. That was far more interesting than most of the stuff they did broadcast!

I've never been a Who fan but I watched tonight and thought they were great. Obviously they're not going to sound like they did 50 years ago and slagging them off because they're not 20 any more is petty. They are one of the originals and the world will be a sadder and less enjoyable place when these guys and the others of their time stop gigging.

Very sad news.

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1435431224' post='2808782'] We'll .... end up with a great definitive list [/quote] It will "definitely" be a list of bass players, but I'm not sure it will be "definitive". Anyway, why limit this to 50? I'd suggest 100 greatest bass payers.

My experience of owning TC amps was far from dreadful and last year I sat in a room with Nathan East, while he played with the best tone I've heard in a long time from an RH750 and a TC RS212 cab. So far, since 2007, I've played through an Ampeg SVT3 PRO, Markbass LM2 and F1, TC Staccato and RH750, Thunderfunk 550 and 750, Genz STL 9.2 and Aguilar TH500. I could get a great sound out of all of them, except the F1, and the band liked the F1. I have good basses and good cabs and maybe my technique is more forgiving but IME if you can't get a good sound out of an amp then you're doing something wrong. I've played and heard amps and cabs I didn't like but I'd always say that was down to my preferences and not a problem with the gear.

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1435413407' post='2808569'] It does say The 50 [i]Greatest[/i] Bass Players. [/quote] OK. I missed that bit. In that case. . . .what? Mike Rutherford (and about half a dozen others) before Paul Chambers, Ron Carter, Nate Watts, David Hood, Cornell C Williams and George Porter Jr!!

I've heard as many bass players sounding terrible through SS amps as I've heard sounding terrible through valve amps and sounding terrible though class D amps. If anyone can't sound good through a particular amp, then it's down to them, because there are other players out there who will make the same amp sound great.

It's not claiming to be the 50 [i]greatest[/i] bassists. So it's just a list.

Are you sure the GS115 is 4 ohm? The Aguilar website says they are 8 ohm. I've use 2 112 cabs and now a 212 for years. With "modern" well designed cabs I'm not convinced there is a place for old style 115's any more. I'd get 2 SL112's if you were after a flexible small rig.

James Jamerson played root/5 numbers for about 5 years at Motown before he broke out. All of the guys playing the complicated numbers so far listed started out in exactly the same way they all began with stabilisers. The difference is how hard they worked at throwing those stabilisers away. Everyone should start slowly and build up.

The only active pickups I've heard of are EMG's and I don't know what advantage that brings, so passive pickups for me. This also gives you the option of switching between active and passive modes.

I've played a Squier Jazz in a shop and for £300 ish it was way better than the £600 Fender Jazz they also had on the wall. I've modded basses before and everything depends on how good a bass you start with. I'd sell the MIM and try as many Squires as you can. You might be pleasantly surprised.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1435243264' post='2806919'] It's in black and white on their website. Any three 8 ohm cabs or any 4 ohm and 8 ohm cab, or indeed a 5.3 ohm and 8 ohm cab. [/quote] Thank you Alex.

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1435236676' post='2806823'] I think the only saving point is as above; TC know the exact (or virtually exact) specs of THEIR cabinets and thus know that the impedance will be safe with the RH amps when running three at once. You can do it with other '8 ohm' cabinets but there is no guarantee that the other manufacturers have the ratings of the cabs as TC do. [/quote] Jeez, this myth is hard to knock down!!!!! I wish I could type louder. . . . . they can run 3 8 ohm cabs, anyone's cabs, because their amps run at 2.67 ohms. The cabs are not special, they are no different to anyone else's cabs, the cabs are not the issue. It's all in the amps.

[quote name='lemmywinks' timestamp='1435233167' post='2806753'] TC's cabs were over the stated impedance weren't they? [/quote] No. They wanted us to think their cabs were special, so we would buy lots of them, but they are bog standard cabs. Really. What really gets me, enough to labour the point again, is that someone will ask a question and they will get a reply. In this case, with the best intentions, they will be given the wrong information. And that wrong and misleading info has been gleaned not from the marketing blurb, but from the User Manual and label on the back of the amp. I know there is a "shadow dance" around the watts vs power of the cabs and power vs RMS of the amps, but that is a well known game. Most people know where the line is on that one. In this case, where TC's marketing ends and false representation starts is a very blurred line and it shouldn't be because the facts are clear. The annoying thing is that TC is hiding the facts in plain sight and doing their best to perpetuate the misinformation. I'm boring you all now. I'll stop.

I should clarify. . . I owned a TC Staccato which I sold to upgrade to the RH750 which I sold to upgrade to a Thunderfunk. I have no problems with the volume or tone of these amps. They are good products. I just don't like being told I have to buy TC's "magic" cabs to be able to run 3 at a time.

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1435175847' post='2806313'] But I think that putting that very thorough explanation on their web site, for those who care, does them credit. I certainly wouldn't expect (or want) that level of detail in a user manual. [/quote] No credit to TC. They only added this information when they were forced to come clean after getting a lot of seriously bad press on Talkbass after Tom Bowlus discovered various [i]interesting[/i] facts about the amps in a review and test his online bass magazine ran. And no credit to TC because while they hid the information away on the web site they left the documentation and labels on the amps as they were. They still state that the amps are 4 ohm minimum and you can only run 2 of any other manufacturers cabs to 4 ohms. That isn't what the clarification says so, sorry, no credit to TC for lying in their User Manuals so that they can sell more cabs to unsuspecting customers. That's selling under false pretenses, So sorry, NO CREDIT to TC.

There's a calculator on the Sadowsky web site which says that together 8 ohm and 5.3 ohm cabs present a 3.1 ohms load to the amp. Which is OK. I used to run 4 ohm and 8 ohm cabs with my Staccato and RH750's with no issues. If you read the manual, your general safety net is that the amp will go into HEAT protection mode if it gets too hot. This from the manual: [i]Notice that due to RH750’s protection features the amplifier will NOT be damaged if a wrong load impedance setting is selected[/i].

As soon as someone else is relying on what you do you need 2 of everything. If you gig, or play with others, you should cover yourself, cos stuff happens. I carry the last set of strings I took off the bass, just in case, and I have never broken a string. In fact, the last time I had a breakdown on a gig was the last time I used tubes.