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chyc started following Amp to cab cable question , Valve V Solid State , Ampeg B-15 style head - hand-wired and 7 others
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It's a really interesting video. Tallies with the Andertons blind shootout that they did at roughly the same time.
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Alex at Barefaced wrote a fabulous article on what gives a bass cabinet its bottom end sound. In it he describes that the classic tone that many people like is a bump in the 100Hz region, basically exactly as @Phil Starr has said! https://barefacedaudio.com/pages/what-is-bottom/
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Understood. From what I can see the S2012s would make for a very potent rig, and if the cabinet is built around the dimensions of a V4B that would sit on top, yeah that would look pretty nice as well.
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This is going to be an interesting topic! So is the brief that you like everything about your Ampeg SVT212 except the weight?
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There used to be a page on Barefaced's website about mixing cabinet and amp ratings. It's gone now sadly so you cannot verify what I'm relaying, but it basically boiled down to that you can pair any powered cabinet with any powered amp, if you're sensible. If the cabinet rating is higher than the amp rating, then you're not reaching the cabinet's full potential. Any online information about how distorted waves coming from an underpowered amp break a cabinet just aren't true. If the amp rating is higher than the cabinet rating, then the amp has the potential to blow the speakers. However, with sensible usage you will be fine as the speakers will be telling you that they are unhappy with unpleasant distortion, particularly on the low notes. Only caveat to that is when you put an aggressive HPF in the signal chain and you reach the thermal limit rather than the excursion limit of the speaker. With decent drivers such as in the Barefaced or LFSys ranges, you'd have to be absolutely ragging them for that. This Barefaced page is still referenced on their Info pages, but the actual page is no longer there. Are we to read into that?
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I will take your secret to the grave. I'm in a similar situation. I turned up for a big band gig once and there was an audible gasp from the band members when I started playing through it. No FoH with that one.
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They've been gigged, a few times actually! I wouldn't claim to have the most critical ear, but they certainly did the job on electric. On the double bass, with everything set flat, they do a good job, but it surprisingly isn't my favourite pair of speakers. That award would go to my 10" BassChats which for whatever reason manage to capture the warmth of the double bass and project without the piezo honk. You can get there with EQ. Saving £400 sounds wonderful if you put it like that. Not sure my wife sees it that way though 😄
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If it's of interest, what I do is I click the [Quote] button of the previous commenter, select all text, copy it to the clipboard, then delete everything and paste, adding my name. It's not slick, but for something you only do once a year it's good enough. If you leave it within a Quote then it's unquotable, so bear that in mind. #1 - Paul @NancyJohnson #2 - Paul #2 @prowla #3 - Martin @Merton #4 - Matt @Wombat #5 - Andy @Wolverinebass #6 - Stevie @stevie #7 - Lozz @Lozz196 #8 - Matt @neepheid #9 - @bassace97 #10 - Robert @bass_dinger #11 - Christopher @chyc #12 - jaco @Geek99 **
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Because I'm so nice: #1 - Paul @NancyJohnson #2 - Paul #2 @prowla #3 - Martin @Merton #4 - Matt @Wombat #5 - Andy @Wolverinebass #6 - Stevie @stevie #7 - Lozz @Lozz196 #8 - Matt @neepheid #9 - @bassace97 #10 - Robert @bass_dinger #11 - Christopher @chyc
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Totally agree with this suggestion here. I've made it four times, and it was super easy. If you're not bothered about the tweeter just get rid of that portion and it becomes even cheaper and easier! There's a video on YouTube which uses the same build technique albeit for a 1x12 cabinet. If you're near me, I have an unloaded cabinet I can give to you to try, although you would need to construct a new tweeterless baffle if that's the direction you'll be going. Ashdown drivers are different to the Basschat 1x10's Celestion Pulse10, but I can't imagine they'd be miles different.
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So true. An obvious tell is when a manufacturer manufactures both active and passive PA cabinets. For some mysterious reason, their active speakers' amps are dispensing watts that their passive lines aren't rated for. QSC K12: 2000W QSC E112: 400W continuous, 1600W peak.
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Basschat 112 Mk3 - price drop £325 - on hold - *SOLD*
chyc replied to tauzero's topic in Amps and Cabs For Sale
I guess it's not dangerous or anything, but I wouldn't recommend it. The crossover is designed specifically to pair a Faital 12PR320 with a Celestion CDX1-1425. Swapping the woofer (I assume you mean rather than the tweeter) for a higher xmax will make it sound top heavy, and there will be phasing issues and potentially a dip in the mids. FWIW the 12PR320 is a very nice speaker, and the price is insane on this thing. The cost of parts themselves alone will be approaching the asking price. I would buy it myself, except I own three of the things already -
Shout out to Mark at speakergrills.co.uk, two grills arrived very quickly and at a reasonable price (£110 for the pair, with all the trimmings like boxing and powder coating). The quality is good, as is the fit. I'm in no doubt they will protect the speakers very well. Will take these for a gig in a week. I'm sure they'll be great.
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The voltage drop you need to worry about is from one end of the cable to the other. Tauzero's power equation is what you need, and you need to measure the resistence of the wire but trust me 13A is plenty, the resistence of the wire will be tiny, orders of magnitude lower than the resistence of the cabinet.
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On a practical level, mains cable will not be as flexible as dedicated speaker cable but if treated right I would happily use repurposed mains cable (and I have done, albeit internal to a cabinet). It's not going to be melting the wire. For reference, a 13A mains cable will happily take multiple kW of power. Using the cable as a guitar lead will not work out so well as the cable will be unshielded so you'll get a lot of unwanted interference added to your signal so bear that in mind if you want the cable for double duty.