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[quote name='Norris' timestamp='1438890484' post='2838508'] And if you're lucky enough to find someone who can actually keep time, it's always on the first and third beat [/quote] +1000

Supertramp version starts in Cm. If your talking about the initial bass part, (before the vocals start) sounds like he's sliding up from an F to a G (say with the 3rd finger) and then playing a Bb on the string above (index finger) then a C albeit the C is an octave lower so maybe this was originally started from the F on the 8th fret of the A string and finishing on the 8th fret of the E string. Personally, I'd use a 5 string and play it lower although having listened again, there appears to be a slight slur downwards on the low C.

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1438856123' post='2837992'] Always be wary of using sales figures as an argument for quality, especially as Spice Girls and Shania Twain both have albums that have sold more! [/quote] Was I using sales figures as an argument for quality? I thought it was a reference to how many people thought it was good enough to buy at the time. Unless of course you're suggesting that they all got home, played it and thought "well that was a waste of money"

We have a tambourine in our acoustic duo and when not in use, it's under my left foot where it stays until we need it again. I wouldn't mind so much people using it if they could not only keep time, but actually know how to use one. They all have a tendency to give up at 1min 30secs as their arm has started to ache Funny just how many people "think" they can keep time.

It's just another opinion same as anyone else's to which he's entitled. As usual, the sales figures speak for themselves as to what the majority thought at the time and whether it was considered a load of tosh but I suppose we have to respect the opinion of a successful long standing rocker who can't cope with damping a 6th E string

What was the question?

[quote name='FinnDave' timestamp='1438799216' post='2837518'] Our Jen says she is a Princess and that's that. None of us disagrees with her, because as soon as she opens her mouth to sing, we are all rendered speechless. [/quote] Try putting a pea under her mattress, then you'll know for sure.

If the song will support it and the player is very good and can offer something melodic, why not? I can only assume that none of the "no" voters ever go to see any of the big name players for fear of hearing a solo

If I stick a CD into my PC, it automatically rips it to my library!! Can I turn that off then?

Saw them at Chelmsford about 12 years ago (ish) Had Carl Wayne on vox and Mike D'abo on keyboards. Absolutely brilliant. Tony Hicks still looked about 25 (the bugger)

[b] Double Bass Players on the Endangered Species List![/b] Have American dentists taken an interest in them then?

Blimey, just heard that Cilla Black has passed away. Shame. I remember some of her hits with fondness.

[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1438329392' post='2833532'] I don't think that people are expecting young people to like The Beatles, it's more a matter of understanding why The Beatles were important. The two are very different things. Nobody can deny that The Beatles were hugely influential, and permanently changed the face of popular music. [/quote] Of course, you're right. My point was badly put. They were hugely important and did change things a lot. However, in order for that to happen, society has to be in a position to allow it, if that makes sense. It's not just a matter of the artistes, the time has to be right to receive and accept change. Like Punk, there were some brilliantly innovative acts at the time but things had to be ripe for change. My point being, although brilliant in my opinion, it needn't necessarily have been the Beatles that took the USA by storm if the time was right.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1438306362' post='2833478'] I contend anyone standing vertical playing an electric guitar was influenced by the Beatles whether they know it or not. Blue [/quote] [quote name='blue' timestamp='1438306900' post='2833482'] Agreed, I mean look at George, who was like 17 years old. Outside of a few country guitarists he didn't have a lot to draw from, yet he started the whole concept of "lead guitar". Incredible. Blue [/quote] Most of the guitarists I came across of my sort of age were influenced by Chuck Berry and Hank Marvin. The Shadows were releasing guitar led instrumentals in 1960 and Chuck Berry was a guitar hero long before that.

[quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1438323813' post='2833501'] And Chuck Berry had absolutely no influence then? [/quote] Of course he did. It was the likes of him and Little Richard that influenced the Beatles before they apparently influenced the rest of the world. Re the case here that younger generations seem to confuse and even irritate some posters by "not getting" the Beatles. I've always liked the Beatles but it's not for us oldies to tell people what was, or was not good music, only what we liked and about the changes we saw at that time. I don't "get" Justin Beiber but obviously millions do. There's no law stating that they have to like the Beatles

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1438282088' post='2833263'] In the states being a musician was looked down on by most. In some way The Beatles made being a musician acceptable or a legitimate way to make a living. When people use to ask me what I do for a living, I always hated and felt ashamed saying; [i][b]"I'm a Workers Compensation Claims Administrator"[/b][/i]. For a little over a year when asked, I'm now proud to say with confidence and arrogance [b][i]"I play electric bass guitar and sing in a Rock & Roll Band" [/i][/b] Blue [/quote] If you were in the UK and said you were a "worker's compensation claims administrator" you would actually be hated UK TV is drowning in adverts for industrial accident ambulance chasers. I think in those days in the UK, being a musician was a little more acceptable to do as a job than you experienced unless of course, you were trying to convince your own parents that it was your chosen path in life.

[quote name='Muppet' timestamp='1438280803' post='2833253'] I read the manual like Tim R suggested! Your mixer with the switch in the Main L+R Mon mode will add the left and right signals together and output through the left speaker out. That mean that in this mode, if you plugged two instruments in to one of the stereo channels they'd both be output through the same speaker out at the same time. For your front of house sound you're only using this channel so the short answer is that, with this desk, it should be fine, I believe. My only question is that each channel can output to one speaker each - are you daisy chaining your mains and your monitors? [/quote] Each amp (side) can go down to 4 ohms so, I have two 8ohm cabs on each side as per page 27 of the manual. (Two 8ohm front of house and two 8ohm monitors) In this mode, the individual monitor levels are controlable from each channel and output through one side (one amp) in addition to a signal to the monitor out in case I need more foldback via a powered unit. On the back there are a Speakon connector and a 1/4 jack for each amp. I have the speakon out (side A) to 1 main, then daisy-chained to the other main. Same for the two monitors (side B. As the outputs are parallel, I could use both the jack and the speakon with a lead to each main (and same for the monitors) but daisy chaining will keep it neater on stage for us.

Zoom B2 with headphones if the wife is in bed and I want to stay in the house. Anything up to 600watts if she's out.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1438269747' post='2833102'] Page 20. Number 3. [/quote] The amps will be split one side for mains and the other to power a pair of passive monitors. so doesn't that reference mean that the output would only be through one of the amps? ie the monitors or just the mains? Sorry if my confusion over this is irritating but I'm not really up on this stuff.

The Beatles hit the States in one big bang whereas we'd had the benefit of hearing about them from the Hamburg days when they were probably playing for £3 each, if that, so that sort of took a lot of the WOW factor away. I'm 63 now and although music is evolutionary, there were obviously times when change was big and fast rather than slow and steady. I feel lucky enough to have grown up in what I consider to have been times of great change where whole new genres were born (and discarded) and in the other "place to be" London (the other being Liverpool at the time) To be standing in the Marquee watching those "in at the beginning" like Alexis Korner, Jeff Beck and Jon Hiseman and the like was a privilege and like Blue, grew up knowing what I wanted to do, albeit now as a hobby as opposed to having to pay bills.

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1438267821' post='2833076'] [/quote] Sorry about that. Our two year old, three year old and nine year old granddaughters arrived 72 hours ago, it's been a tough day

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1438246023' post='2832783'] Edit: Just read the manual. [/quote] I have, and it's not mentioned at all. Have found my old A/B box and tested it so will go with that into the L(mono) as pointed out, it will also cut the instrument not in use. Easier all round. Thanks everyone for your "input" (see what I did there?)

[quote name='AntLockyer' timestamp='1438245564' post='2832779'] Point to the amp and make the cutting throat signal? [/quote] Yup, the throat cut is the one or if he's near enough, a punch to the side of the head.

[quote name='Muppet' timestamp='1438206623' post='2832612'] I don't have the same desk as you but have tried it before on another one with a similar setup. It worked but with both plugged in, the 'Left' instrument only came out of the left channel and likewise for the right. [/quote] Interesting, this desk has no "pan" and I've split the two amps for main and monitors so I have no left & right. I reckon the way to go is to use an A/B box that I have laying around. At least that way, only one will be turned on at a time. Thanks for the reply. That's helped me decide which way to go.

I'm not able to check this out for myself for a couple of days so hopefully, someone here will know. I have a Yamaha EMX212s powered mixer. Channels 5/6 & 7/8 are either for mics (XLR) or a pair of 1/4 jack inputs marked L(mono) and R so you can use a synth for example. What I need to know is if I could use both 1/4 jack inputs ( the left and right) for two separate instruments or would I need an A/B box? and just use the L(mono) input? The two instruments would not be used at the same time but I want to avoid unplugging and plugging in etc. Any help appreciated. Thanks.