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[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1506693036' post='3380480'] or you could ask if anything came of that date, as i didn't write anything down, because its not my job to, regarding an enquiry and i have something else come up if we arent doing it? I would expect any sensible person to at least pencil something in on a date that has been enquired about. [/quote] Hopefully I can say without upsetting the OP. "We all make mistakes, butI would expect any sensible person to update the band diary when the date is confirmed".

As with some others here I'm afraid my sympathies are with the drummer. If you're going to have a central band diary then that should be the master. If someone asked 6 months ago if I was OK for something, but nothing appeared in the band diary then I'd assume it wasn't on.

You're all missing the point here. The darkglass cabs obviously contain significantly more snake oil than other brands.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1506524596' post='3379343'] That's why some amps have multiple taps. Nonetheless you won't get more power from a tube amp by using a lower impedance load the way you do with SS. [/quote] Yes I see what you mean (I think). The maximum power output from the tubes remains the same, but getting the right impedance match means you lose less of it in the transformer/speaker interface.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1506288085' post='3377698'] With an SS amp the power is delivered by the output transistors to the speakers. The lower the speaker impedance the higher the current draw and therefore the higher the power. Valves deliver their power into the output transformer. Since it presents a constant impedance load current, and therefore power, is also constant. [/quote] For the primary side of output transformer I agree, but the power transfer efficiency from the secondary to the speaker is best when the two impendences are the same, and falls off if mismatched either way, so the right impedance match is still going to give you more vaolume than a poor match. (There was a time when I used to be able to do the sums to prove this - and the same sort of sums for an exponential horn - but that was a long time ago!)

We use some 15" Full range Shermann cabs driven by a QSC something or other, and put everything through it when we need to, and its sounds very good. Mind you they are pretty heavy and a definite two man lift to get them on stands. Never quite understood the need for subs. My idea of a good PA is that you don't know it's there (apart from the volume of course) and that's what we get from these cabs .

[quote name='Raslee' timestamp='1506275702' post='3377534'] There is a switch on the back of the Orange Terror Bass 500 watt amplifier that's switches between 4 & 8 ohm. Orange claim the speaker will get 500 watts in either setting. I wonder how that works ? [/quote] I guess that it would change the tapping on the output transformer between 4 and 8 ohm tappings.

About 35 years ago my girlfriend, now wife, lived in a bedsit in Crouch End (London) and the bass player from Bad Manners was living in the same house. (I never met him and I wasn't even playing bass in those days).

[quote name='Maude' timestamp='1506117372' post='3376642'] I keep seeing posts about the concerns with speaker cab ohms ratings, and although with more efficient speakers and higher powered amps this is mainly irrelevant these days it got me thinking. With the old valve amps I believe you could plug a dummy resister in to simulate having a speaker plugged in so as not to damage the amp if powering up with no cab connected. Could a variable resister to used in cabs to allow you to alter the ohms rating of a cab, allowing for greater versatility and mixing and optimal matching of cabs? Like I say, probably redundant these days with the more efficient equipment easily available but I was just wondering. Waddya think [/quote] Are you thinking of the Power dump resistors you used to get, so you could run your valve amp flat out to get the sound, but at a much reduced volume level? I think Marshall used to do them. Just checked - Marshall did one called a Power Brake, but it seems there were also many others available.

[quote name='timmo' timestamp='1506089009' post='3376410'] How about a hotone thunder bass amp. It isnt a combo, but they are tiny and get decent reviews. Never used one myself, but always tempted. The cab is small too. [/quote] Bit late now - see above. Watched a demo anyway and I love the tone. However it seems a bit pointless if they're making a point of it's size and then demo it through a 4x10! Their own little cab is tiny, I'd love to see a demo of that. The prices look bloody good as well. Anyone here tried one out?

[quote name='fftc' timestamp='1506097170' post='3376487'] So let's assume that you like to play bass and you like to gig. Say I go to your gig and I think you are rubbish. Would you prefer it if I shouted offensive, obnoxious and possibly even threatening abuse at you to the effect that you are rubbish, or would you prefer I kept my own council? I'm sure most folk would prefer the latter. Doesn't mean you shouldn't gig. Doesn't mean I shouldn't think you're crap. But I should show a level of respect towards you as a fellow human being. If I fail to do that then I should be pulled up for it. What's different about female dancers? [/quote] Of course I would prefer you not to shout it out (perhaps slip me a card with the number of a good teacher). I'm saying that if I regularly got abuse saying I was crap and [i]if it upset me enough[/i] then yes, I might well decide to not play that sort of gig again, or give up altogether. If I am a crap player (actually I'm really really average) but want to really carry on playing then I'd have to accept that I was going to get some abuse for being crap. It would be pointless carrying on doing it and then whinging that I was getting abuse. I'd either have to: A: Get better B: Accept the abuse and just get on with it C: Stop doing it. I repeat again, please take note everybody. I've said it several times already in the thread, but no one seems to have noticed: [b]I AM NOT SAYING THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOUR IS ACCEPTABLE[/b], but it happens in the real world. By all means try to change it, but in the mean time make your decisions based on how the world is, not how you'd like it to be. Re the dancers: I have (I think) deliberately avoided mentioning the gender of the performer. One of the worse examples I have seen was a documentary about a certain type of club on "Ladies Night", and I didn't notice anyone trying to stop them shouting out their base desires.

[quote name='spongebob' timestamp='1506074619' post='3376247'] You can never have too much JP. [/quote] I can.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1506087303' post='3376398'] It's a bit of a confusing reply. If I come across someone being mugged or raped I'm sure I would make a bit of noise or at least call the police. I'm not totally sure those activities are even in the same league. Having a word with someone who is getting a bit rowdy is a different ball game to confronting a rapist or a mugger. I've had to have words with people at gigs. Usually they look guilty and say sorry. If you don't nip it in the bud they get more and more rowdy and end up pulling your gear over. I'm not a big guy but I've spoken to people on the train whose actions have been making people feel uncomfortable and they've apologised and calmed down. There are ways of approaching people that are non-confrontational and there are ways of escaping situations when they start to become confrontational. [/quote] Ah, I might see where the confusion is. When I say I'd avoid the risky situation I was not referring to the act of reprimanding the person making the lewd remarks, or trying to assist if someone is being attacked; I think basic human instinct to help would kick in there, especially if someone was being attacked. I certainly hope that I would dive in to help (I've never been tested in that respect). To be perfectly honest, to my own detriment, I don't know if I'd intervene if it was just lewd remarks as I wouldn't see it as being any danger to anybody (just a bit offensive) - depends on how lewd they were I suppose. I was referring to the act of the potential victim putting themselves into risky situations in the first place. i.e. the hypothetical act of walking down the street with money hanging out of pockets or, back to the original post subject, dancing on the stage in an alluring manner if you'd be upset by lewd remarks. These things should not happen and are not acceptable but,[i] as the potential target/victim[/i], you can either wait for society to change and take the risk in the meantime, or you can take immediately effective action and avoid the potentially dangerous or upsetting scenario. Hence my original comment on this thread that if you're going to be upset by lewd comments then being a stage dancer (in a rough end establishment) seems to be a strange career choice. Hope this makes my position clear (though I suspect it hasn't).

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1506067242' post='3376179'] I hope they don't take your advice, or nothing will ever change. Things don't change by themselves. Someone changes them. [/quote] Hence the first sentence of my reply to TimR.

I've bought CameronJ's Yamaha THR10, as it seems to have the right features, size in particular, at the right price. I'll report back on how it performs with a bass. Twas a close run thing against a Roland micro-cube bass. Just a general query on the micro-cube. I've never seen or heard one in the flesh, so to speak, but what would be the advantage of four 3" speakers over say one 6". I know it has two amps and is Stereo, but then what would you use stereo for with bass and on an amp of that size?

You're being very leftist here. You should be saying 'Plucking hand', or some lefties (can I say that even?) may be offended!

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1505991499' post='3375681'] Well, not quite. There's not a lot I can do about all the rapes and muggings in the world that are going on. I can have a word with the idiot standing next to me at a show there and then and maybe make them think twice next time. I'm fairly sure I shouldn't have to wait until all the rapes and muggings have been stopped first before I approach him. [/quote] Tim, I have never said we shouldn't try to change this behaviour, and pointing the error of their ways to an idiot standing next to you is a good thing, and needs to be done. Let me know when you have stood next to all the lewd comment shouters, rapists and muggers in the world, and I'll the venture out naked with wads of cash in every orifice. Until then however I'll continue to avoid, or at least not aggravate, what seem risky or unpleasant situations and I'd advise others to to the same.

[quote name='Daz39' timestamp='1505939327' post='3375415'] To clarify then: by saying the victims need to be more responsible, you are tacitly accepting this behaviour is unavoidable. [/quote] I'm saying that the world is not as perfect as we would like, and that this sort of behaviour happens. It's not right, just as mugging and rape and a million other things are not right, but it happens all the same. To a certain extent, in the world as it currently is, then these sort of behaviours will continue. Maybe in twenty or thirty years time things will be better, but in the mean time people who feel that they may be victims of any of the above can take their own action and, if possible, avoid the risky situation. To be honest there are far worse things going on in the world (e.g. Rape and Mugging) than one sex shouting lewd comments at the other sex, and (to my mind) these need to be addressed first. You've got to play with the cards you have, not the cards you wish you had.

Just to say it one more time:[b] I am NOT saying that this behaviour is acceptable. [/b]

I am not blaming the 'victim'. I am saying that one - anyone - should avoid situations that they know to be risky, unless they're happy with that risk. For example I decided against going to North Korea to photograph military installations for my holidays this year. In an ideal world it wouldn't be necessary.

[quote name='Daz39' timestamp='1505853609' post='3374838'] Because you're victim blaming and normalising the continuation of these attitudes. [/quote] So if I packed my pockets with notes and walked through a rough part of town and got mugged, there wouldn't be a small part of you that thought "stupid twat, what did he think was going to happen?"? If you can honestly say no, then you have my admiration.

By the way, I'm not defending this type of behaviour. I would be pretty annoyed to see it going on myself. I just query why people put themselves in that situation when they are upset by it.

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1505824845' post='3374564'] You're placing the responsibility for socially acceptable behaviour on the dancers and not the audience. That's your fundamental mistake, if you don't mind me saying. It's the responsibility of the audience - of society in general - to behave itself. Lewd comments are, by definition, lewd: [i]"crude and offensive in a sexual way."[/i] The wrongness in this situation starts and ends there. [/quote] I don't mind you saying, but I disagree with you. See my response above.

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1505817626' post='3374477'] If you become a prostitute, it would not be strange that some day you come across a customer who is a little rough or even violent in some way. It goes with the territory. It doesn't make it right 'though. Does it? And again... the objection is not about being 'ogled'... This thread is depressing with some of the attitudes on display and justifications being made. [/quote] No it doesn't make it right, but if you know that sort of thing is likely to happen why not choose another career? Similarly if you join the army you can't really complain if someone starts shooting at you, if you're a coal miner then you're going to get dirty. If a dancer of a certain kind dress up in provocative clothes and gyrate about then it is generally done for a specific reason, which is to stimulate the opposite (or same) sex. If you're not happy with that then find something else to do. In an ideal world we would all be able to walk around with rolls of cash sticking out of every pocket and have no fear of being mugged. You could still still do it and complain every time you're mugged, and wait for the world to change, or you could simply be a bit more discreet.