Count Bassy

Surely, if you sell something to anyone at below the free market price, irrespective of how much you paid for it, then you are effectively taking money out of your pocket(/family coffers) and putting it into theirs. If it's a tenner then not a problem, if its £200 then I'd only do that for my immediate family. As for the idea of "wanting to get back what I paid": Never did understand that one. You buy at a price that you are prepared to pay, and sell at a price that others are prepared to pay. This may be more or less than you paid, but to think that you automatically deserve to get what you paid for it seems a bit odd (to me at least).

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1377387999' post='2187076'] The workers are cheaper so the quality control isn't up to the same standards. [/quote] Ouch!

The string spacing.

How racist is this: Naming instruments after terms of racist abuse! Musicman need to make a public apology for this.

I'd have thought cold water would be best for blood.

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1376483833' post='2174565'] No doubt he is a great bassist and deserves all the credit he gets. However, the music on the clip seems to be more about technique/chops with little in the way of relating to an audience. I could not relate to it. YMMV. [/quote] Yep, he seems to have lost his way somewhere.

Possibly just the number of potential buyers on E-bay. I know BC like to think that all bass players come here, but the reality is probably that active members, who come here regularly, probably only number a few hundred. (Do we have stats on the numbers?).

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1376227423' post='2170995'] IHe was good in Wherever I Lay My Hat Though ....... the bass was right up there with the lead vocal as the two equally most important instruments in that song y'see. [/quote] Ah, but "Wherever I Lay My Hat" was a cover version, and so, according to many people here , can be of no value at all.

The solo at the start of "Handy". Love it, and often play around in the same vein (in private only), but never quite cracked it as such. Problem being that even if I did crack it when and where would you ever get the chance to use it?

I bought a second hand John East unit and thought it had a problem. He took it and checked it out for me free of charge (It was OK - my mistake, and I sent him a fiver for a pint anyway). Not quite your situation I know, but I got the impression that he is a very honourable chap, and that you'll probably be OK.

[quote name='Shaggy' timestamp='1375816318' post='2166144'] Seen Wilko with Norman W-R - absolutely fantastic, though Norman is probably the sweatiest musician I've ever seen..... I wish I'd seen Feelgood live though; been nothing like Wilko's manic chugging guitar paired with Lee Brilleaux's snarling vocals before or since. What a great and underrated songwriter Wilko is too! Interesting reference to Norman W-R's early influences here: [url="http://www.flyguitars.com/interviews/mickhawksworth3.php"]http://www.flyguitar...hawksworth3.php[/url] [/quote] Yes. For the Wilko set he only had a shirt on (yes- trousers, socks and shoes as well), but for the Blockheads he was wearing a suit, and the sweat came through the back of his jacket!. Mind you the effort he puts into his playing excuses a bit of sweat. On another note re Wilko: I hope that when I'm at that stage of my life I can continue to enjoy life and have a such a positive attitude as he does. Hats off to the man. In the words of Lister "What a guy". Interesting article here: [url="http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/wilko-johnson-you-have-to-live-for-the-minute-youre-in-8744944.html"]http://www.independe...in-8744944.html[/url]

Pardon? ........Well someone had to say it.

Never seen him before, and sadly I guess I won't again, but his gig at Wickham Festival last night must count amongst one of the best gigs I've seen in my life. Completely mesmerising. They could have played all night and I wouldn't have got bored. [size=4]Ably assisted by Norman Watt-Roy and Dylan Howe an absolutely stunning hour of music from just three people.[/size] [size=4]As for "Our Norman", I've have seen him a few times with the Blockheads and he never fails to astound me. Surely one of the true masters of the instrument, and playing exactly like I would like to play if only I had any talent. At the risk of opening up another Jaco thread I've got to say that, to me, Norman Watt-Roy is worth 10 Jaco Pastorius's any day of the week.[/size] [size=4]I'm normally one to find something to criticise in any gig (yes it was good, but.......), but there just was no "but" last night.[/size]

Many years ago I was late arriving at a gig (as a melodeon player). Got there just as the band was about to strike up with a stand-in melodeon player. I burst in through the door just in time and John Kirkpatrick stood aside to make room for me. Glory days indeed.

Just to make it clear, I am not questioning Jaco's talent or influence (in certain genres at least), and whether I like what he did or not is inconsequential. It's just the perceived attitude ( and I know that that no-one here has actually said this as such) that he can never be 'bettered' (whatever that means) which leaves me puzzled, and strangely saddened. He may be have been very good and influential, but he was a step on the road of bass playing - not the end of the journey.

[quote name='cloudburst' timestamp='1374222775' post='2146523'] I've played bass for 39 years and had never heard of Chris Wolstenholme prior to this post. "Who's heard of who" may indicate a degree of celebrity, but doesn't say anything about bass playing ability. CB [/quote] Well, I thought whether to include him or not. To be honest I was struggling to think of any bassists that Joe public might know. and was scraping the barrel at that point. As someone mentioned, - No Mark King in the list, so let's take Wolstenholme out and put Mark King in ...... and add Suzi Quattro of course! And I totally agree with your comment on celebrity and talent, but in this "subthread" the discussion was about how many people have heard of Jaco (very few) rather than how good or influential he was.

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1374180274' post='2146261'] I presume that you're the one doing the joking this time? [/quote] No I wasn't. Ask a cross section of joe public to name a bass player and I'm pretty sure he'd be way down the list after, for example, Paul McCartney, Sting, Phil Linnot, Chris Wolstenholme, and probably after John Entwhistle as well. Most people have never heard of him.

[quote name='skej21' timestamp='1374131155' post='2145508'] Or an SR305 brand new for £299 Plus the 'root beer' finish is pretty darn cool! [/quote] I don't doubt it, but I've not played one of those, so couldn't actually recommend it as such. If its like other [size=4]Ibanezes that I have tried then it too will be an incredible bass for the money.[/size]

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1374176619' post='2146198'] Who? [/quote] You may (or may not) be joking here, but the fact is that Jaco is hardly known outside bass player circles. Far better known bass players out there (not saying better).

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1374167012' post='2146068'] Better than Jaco ? I don't think so... [/quote] I really can't understand this sort of attitude.[size=4]Not just for Jaco, but Shakespeare, Mozart and others as well. Yes they were good at what they did, but the attitude that no can ever be better (which I know is not what you said) seems very negative and backward looking. All budding bassist, playwrights and composers might as well pack up now.[/size] Jaco may have been technically brilliant, but his music (esp. the solo's) do very little for me (in fact bass solos generally leave me bored to tears). There are plenty of bass players I much prefer to listen to, which in my mind makes them "better". Besides Jaco's been dead for 26 years - time to move on.

[quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1374110203' post='2145467'] In the last band I was in , we payed blues , performed by engineers , it kind of lacked spontanaity and dare I say musicality [/quote] I was in a briefly band who were similar. The guitarist was very technically proficient, and had some great sounds, but somehow lacked feel and, as you say, spontaneity. Drummer was very tight timing wise (too rigid really), but lacked flair, and lacked dynamics. My bass teacher calls it "Playing by numbers", which seems to describe it well. Anyway, I was kicked out of that band, although I was thinking of leaving anyway. An occasional band I'm in is totally different. Brilliant guitarist who just knows his way round incredibly well and makes it up as he goes, no two solos ever the same. Inspired drummer, keyboard and sax etc. In this band I am definitely the musical dunce, but much more fun and (I hope) better to listen to. Problem with this band is that the guitarist has been there and done it (ex pro) and doesn't want to do more than a couple of gigs a year (also suffering from some pretty heavy chemical abuse when he was on the road). Yep, some technically proficiency is a requirement, but flair is also required to make something good to listen to.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1374001201' post='2144151'] personally I like to take the neck tension up by pulling the neck back by hand at the same time as adding or removing tension to the truss rod. [/quote] Me too.

If you hadn't excluded Ibanez I would have thoroughly recommended a second hand SR505 or 605, which you'd just about get within your price range..

Val Doneagain

Yep. Sacked once (By E-mail), but I was on the point of resigning anyway, so no great upset. Still wish I'd got in first though. Never really knew why; they said that I wasn't keeping up. Didn't see it that way myself, I think it was more a case of the face not fitting, and it had been clear for some time that something wasn't right, so no great surprise. I think I'd made the mistake of thinking I would be a full band member, but they really wanted a trained monkey to be clone of their previous bass player and just do as I was told. Still, joined another band and got gigging, and as far as know they still haven't.