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I once owned an Ampeg B15-S, 60W, 1969 model, which unfortunately I was stupid enough to sell about 15 years ago, after it having served me well for about 10 years at that point, originally having bought it stupidly cheap from a 2nd Hand music gear related shop. Mind I am planing to make my bass setup ampless now, and coming next month buying the NUX Melvin Lee Davis Bass Preamp that I count on being able to do the job properly, planing to use it's build in amp modeling of the Aguilar Tone Hammer bass amp head, and then using it's 3rd party cab IR loader function to run a few 3rd party cab IRs that I already got in mind, for that. And even if I still had happened to be interested in carrying heavy amps to future jams, rehearsals and eventual gigs, which I am obviously not, I would rather have got an old solid state Trace Elliot bass amp for that job than the Ampeg B15-S. Though it did in fact still sound absolutely amazing, even if maybe not exactly the way I'd rather prefer now for the music I tend to play, and I do still very much regret haven been stupid enough to let go of it, back when I sold it.

Interesting. Especially your pickup choice, wasn't aware of the existence of these pickups, but just looked them up. Not something I would personally ever have need of, I just need one basic great tone that fits my personal preferences, but I can totally see how the options these pickups gives you could prove very useful and practical for some bass players. Quite cleverly thought out, at least as long as you like the basic tone of those pickups, which I guess will reflect itself through the different modes/wirings they are capable of, but even then, especially with 3 of them, you will be able to cover a tremendous amount of different tonal ground. No doubt going to be a super versatile bass you will get there.

Better wait with commissioning one till nano technology is at the stage where the bass would be able to transmorph completely according to your at any given time current wishes then.

The idea of this thread is to have those dreams gathered in one place. And no offence, but after 27 years of playing and several basses, some of which were 1000$+ instruments, regular 34" scale basses as well as short scales, I would think I know what I want and what I don't want in a bass. As for the 28,6" scale because I found that to be the perfect scale length for a 4 string bass for me, not too cramp, yet not too cumbersom to play, and to me without any negative side effects from the smaller scale, as far as I am concerned, after experience with a bass build out of Warmoth 28 5/8" (28,625") scale baritone parts, and a couple of Ibanez Mikro Basses. Seems to be about the smallest scale length for a 4 string bass before negative side effects will begin to come into play, and at the same time that scale length, for me, offers the absolute most comfortable playability, in my experience. I agree that what you say might be the case for some, but I am pretty certain that I actually know what I want. And even if other people shouldn't feel this way, what is there to loose, as said it was hypothetical question, not a binding contract to a commission work. To me at least it would be interesting to see people's preferences gathered in one thread, instead of having to read through the entire archive of posts on this forum from every member on it if one wanted that sort of information. I for one think the premisses of my thread are perfectly valid, or else I wouldn't have made it. The idea is not to judge people on their wishes but to see the diversity of them.

Hypothetical question, if you had the money needed, or was willing to spend the kind of money it would cost, and you could have a custom bass designed exactly to your dream specs and according to your dream visual design, what would it be then? Mine would be: Something like a 4 string 28,6" scale length bass, with mahogany body, bolt on maple neck, with a modern slim C shaped profile, a 24 medium sized stainless steel frets, about 14" radius, ebony fretboard, 38mm nut width, and 17mm string spacing at the bridge consisting of mono rails, and an accordingly narrow neck that would accommodate that, likely with a Nordstrand, The Power Blade, P style pickup in the neck/sort of middle position, and a Nordstrand Big Blademan, Music Man style pickup, in the bridge position, with coil split, and series/parallel switch, and in matte black finish with all black hardware, with the body/headstock shape somewhat inspired by a fusion between the B.C Rich Zombie Revenge and Beast bass (actually mainly like the Zombie Revenge bass, but with asymmetrical "devil horns" on the head stock and bridge end of the body, and slightly slimmer, more down angled, front horns, like on the Beast bass), and beside the coil/series/parallel switch for the Music Man style bridge pickup, just a pickup blend control, no volume or tone pot, and all passive. The B.C Rich basses that I am referring to looking like this:

The best neck I ever played was a the Jerry Jones Longhorn 4 string bass I once owned, but was stupid enough to sell, and as far as I have been able to research it is supposed to have a neck with a slim C profile, and a fertboard with a pretty flat radius of 14,5", and even though the nut width is 1 5/8" (approcimately 41,3mm) the neck is pretty straight, as in it doesn't expand much in width as you get further down the neck towards the bridge, with it's just 17mm string spacing at the bridge. I also quite like the neck of my current 4 string Ibanez GSRM20 Mikro Bass, which neck is likewise a slim C profile, the fretboard having a 12" radius, and the nut being 38mm wide. but the neck then expanding as you go further down towards the bridge accommodating a standard 4 string string spacing of 19mm at the bridge. But as far as I recall, which is a bit hard since some years has passed between selling the Longhorn and then to me getting the Mikro, I slightly preferred the feel of the Longhorn neck, which seems to suggest that I prefer an even flatter radius than the Mikro's 12", and an even more narrow neck than the Mikro's 19mm string spacing makes for, though the slightly more narrow nut width of the Mikro is nice. Also I prefer the slim C profile of my Mikro Bass over my Epiphone SG guitar's slim D profile. Weather then I might prefer other neck profiles over slim C I can't really tell, as I haven't really tried for example slim V or U shaped necks, but at least I know D isn't where it's at at, and slim does seem to be just the right thickness for me, also 38mm nut width seems to be just right for me, as does a quite narrow neck that accommodates for a 17mm string spacing at the bridge, and an even flatter fretboard radius than 12", closer to around 14", seems just right for me as well. And as for scale length, even if that really has little to do with the topic of this thread, the Mikro's 28,6" seems to be just absolute perfect for a 4 string bass for me. I still rather have the slighter shorter 28,6" scale length of the Mikro, over the Longhorn's 30" scale length, than the benefit of the overall more narrow neck given by the slightly tighter string spacing at the bridge and the slightly flatter fretboard radius the Longhorn would give me, but ideally I'd have a custom bass made at some point with a 28,6" scale length, a slim C shaped narrow neck, as narrow as 17mm string spacing at the bridge would require, with a 38mm nut width and a 14,5" radius fretboard with 24 medium sized frets. So I am actually pretty sure on what I prefer from a neck, even if there theoretically could be a possibility that a slim V or U shape would fit me better than a slim C shape. Otherwise narrow, slim, most likely C and definitely not D shaped, but with a vague possibility for maybe V or U shaped instead, and with a relatively flat fretboard radius, flatter than 12" and likely just around 14,5", seems to be where I feel most at home. All in all I got my preferences in just about everything from neck shape, fretboard radius, fret wire size, scale length, wood preferences, pickup preferences, electronics and control preferences, and overall design/shape preferences down close enough to a perfect fit for me that I would feel totally comfortable with getting a custom bass made exactly to my specs and be quite sure that I actually would end up loving the result, all I need now then is the kind of money that would require. But at least the 4 string Ibanez GSRM20 Mikro Bass that I own close enough for now,, if just it had had a slightly flatter fretboard radius, and slightly tighter string spacing at the bridge with the resulting slightly more narrow neck, had got 2 additional frets, and had had a Music Man style pickup at the bridge instead of a J style pickup, it would have been perfect, close enough to perfect at least that the fretboard wood being rosewood and not ebony, and that it'a visual design not matching my personal vision of my dream bass, probably wouldn't bother me to such a degree that I would still have a dream constantly itching about getting a custom bass made exactly to my preferred specs at some point. My Mikro's 28,6" scale length, mahogany body, bolt on maple neck, medium sized frets, and P style neck/middle position pickup, is spot on at least. I guess technically I could save up for about 15 month or so, not being able to buy any other musical gear or other "luxury" stuff in that time span, beside what I strictly would need to survive, and then probably have just about enough money saved up for getting my dream bass made by one of the cheaper luthiers who will make custom basses exactly to your specs, but unfortunately I don't possess that kind of discipline and patience, so for now I will have to do with what I got and let my dream bass remain nothing but a dream. Sorry for going way off topic, just seemed that it made my thoughts spin beyond that.

Swedish Karin Dreijer Andersson, electronic musician and singer from The Knife and her solo project Fever Ray, is also up there for me : Here as guest vocalist for Norwegian Röyksopp (She doesn't have the lead role in this music video, that's some super model, but is featured as the woman sitting at a dinner table in priest robes eating an apple, later in the video) :

I'd sell it an have me a custom bass made specifically to my specs. For one I've gone exclusively short scale. Something like a 4 string 28,6" scale length bass, with mahogany body, bolt on maple neck, with a modern slim C shaped profile, 24 medium frets, about 14" radius, ebony fretboard, 38mm nut width, and 17mm string spacing, with mono bridge pieces, likely with a Nordstrand, The Power Blade, P pickup in the sort of neck/midle position, and a Nordstrand Big Blademan, Music Man pickup, in the bridge position, with coil split, and series/parallel switch, and in matte black finish with all black hardware, with the body/headstock shape somewhat inspired by a fusion between the B.C Rich Beast and Zombie Revenge bass, and beside the coil/series/parallel switch for the Music Man bridge pickup, just a pickup blend control, no volume or tone pot, and all passive.

And another hit from their masterpiece of an album "Deep Cuts" :

I really love that pedal! So much I got 2 of them. Currently only use one of them in my bass pedal setup though, for a really great slightly grinding medium overdive kind of thing, that I blend with cleans via my Boss LS-2. It is capable of some serious amazingly clanky grinding high gain overdrive to medium distortion though, with the Drive knob cranked up higher, the Voice knob boosted a good bit, boosting the frequency area around 800Hz (but with a pretty wide Q curve, cutting the area around 400Hz bellow the 12 o'clock position. The reason it overdives the pedal when you boost it is that it's a pre gain stage EQ control), and the Tone knob turned slightly above the 12 o'clock position, slightly cutting some low end, especially great that way blended with a bit of clean signal, where it will deliver this really edgy and seriously aggressive grinding medium gain distortion tone that will cut through everything. Cranked the distortion kind of having a character that somewhat reminds me of a mixture between a cranked Boss BD-2, and especially a cranked Boss DS-1, just way more full and not in any possible way thin, perhaps somewhat more amp like, sounding. How I use it currently it is considerably more moderate though, and actually really great as my main overdriven tone, still slightly to the more clanky and grinding side, but nothing too drastic, and still with a good amount of low end included, since I blend it with clean signal via my Boss LS-2 at an almost 50/50 ratio, just adding a slight bit of grind and edge to an otherwise a lovely full sounding medium gain kind of overdrive tone. Would have loved to own the, sadly now discontinued, but also much more expensive, Tech 21 Oxford pedal, from their Character Series, that the Orange Juice is based on, for a much more extensive EQ section. Or Joyo just making it in a bigger version, with the same EQ controls as their Sound series of pedals, like the original Tech 21 Oxford pedal got. It's not bad in this scraped and seriously sized down version though, still an absolutely amazing drive pedal, just sometimes could wish for a bit more control over the EQ.

So, yes, let us see those of your basses with distressed finishes, cracked off polythene coatings, bumps, scratches, scars and other blemishes, or as some might call them battle scars, or even charming character strengthening marks of honor. I wouldn't exactly call the damage done on my 4 string Ibanez GSRM20 Mikro Bass marks of honor, rather cautionary marks of carelessness and plain stupidity, but I do actually think they do kind of add some rough carefree and somewhat unique character to it at least. First of all here's how the bass looks in it's entirety: The first thing you'll properly notice it the kind of crooked star like, roughly sort of engraved, figure between the 2 pickups, beneath the strings, on the body. This was actually done on purpose as an impulsive idea and haphazard attempt to decorate the bass, by hammering the tip of a flat screwdriver into the body of the bass repeatedly to sort of engrave the figure, all through the thick polythene coating and down in the mahogany wood of the bass's body, and it actually turned out pretty much as I pictured it, weather then I should have acted on that spontaneous whim or not, but I actually kind of like it. Special paint that is supposed to give a somewhat marble like effect, and then, at a later point, further more transparent glitter nail polish, was then dabbed down in the cracks that forms the crude star like figure with a small brush. The actual point of the idea originally being to make it look sort of like a crack in a piece of glass. Here's a closeup picture of it: The next thing you'll properly noticed is the relatively big, odd blemish above the P pickup, right at the end of the neck on the body of the bass, that is the aftermath of a haphazard and failed attempt to drill an extra pickup cavity in the far neck position, that I then later, unfortunately also kind of poorly, filled out with filler mass and then painted and varnished over. Kind of really regret that one, as it turned out I even didn't really need that extra neck pickup, and that I really shouldn't have used a drilling machine to do it. The 2 holes on the last fret, that you can also see on the below closeup of the blemish, one partly filled up with a glued in wooden stick, and the other, which I actually pretty nicely managed to fill out, almost perfectly, with another glued in wooden stick (though as you can see made from a light color wood), is something that happened after I, at a later point, removed the neck to shim it, and then as I decided to fill out the holes from the neck screws, for a tight fit back, discovering that I would need to drill some new pilot holes, but ending up drilling too deep, all the way through the fretboard. So the closeup of that: And as you might notice on that closeup there's a chip in the fretboard just after the last fret, low E string side, which was caused by a sliding out of control drill, from that failed drilling an extra pickup cavity attempt, as I unfortunately hadn't even bothered removing the neck first. I manage to glue back one of the chips that was ripped off by the out of control drilling machine, which actually seems to have worked well, and like a pretty sturdy fix, but another chip went missing. Luckily though nothing happened to the fretwire, that stayed firmly in place all the while. On this closeup it is possible to see the missing chip a bit better, as well as the edges of the glue joints where the other piece was put back on: Finally the oldest injury that my bass suffered, not visible on that first front shot of my bass, since it's located on the side of the upper part of the body, which is a relatively big piece of the thick polythene finish, which the bass is coated with, has chipped off, and later then sprayed with a clear coat of varnish, that it suffered back when it was still relatively new, when I dropped the Mikro Bass gigbag, that the bass came with and was in at that point, on the concrete sidewalk on my way to band rehearsal, partly because I didn't pay proper attention, and partly because those gigbags, that the Mikro Basses used to come with as a standard accessory from factory, for some reason only is equipped with one shoulder strap. Kind of a miracle that that was the only damage that the bass suffered from that fall, especially considering the padding of those gigbags were kind of on the crappier and thinner side. Anyway here it is in a closeup shoot: As said I do kind of really regret the damage that the bass suffered from me being stupid enough to on a whim haphazardly trying to drill an extra far neck position pickup cavity, but otherwise I actually don't really mind the other scars at all. All in all I am not all too concerned with the looks of my instruments, as long as it doesn't affects the actual playabillity negatively, and I actually think a battered instrument can have a certain charm, like the scars often kind of adds a somewhat unique character to it.

Sad to break it to you, but that neck is badly warped, and as if that wasn't enough the hack who installed the frets seems to have been cross eyed or perhaps intoxicated, possibly both, in any case they are anything but straight. I would return that bass immediately if I were you. How did a train wreck catastrophe like that ever pass quality control. It's almost like whoever made it did a serious effort to make it turn out all crooked. But no matter who it was, together with whoever was responsible for inspecting it, needs to be fired as quickly as possible before they can do more damage.

I've always loved the matte black finish for basses (Edit!!: on further inspection it looks more like matte dark grey, still really love it though, might also just be the light in those pictures), and the color of that fretboard wood match nicely with it (I assume very dark rosewood from the look of it), not a big fan of tortoise pickguards though, to say the least, but that particular one there is actually not all that bad, I'd definitely chose one looking similar to that if I was forced to use a tortoise pickguard, though in my opinion a black one with a red layer in, making the edge of the pickguard have sort of a red stripe around it, would have looked much sharper. But that is just me. Truly an amazing looking bass in any case. Congratulations!

This thread is for sharing pictures and eventual stories of/about your Ibanez basses. Anyway, here's my 2 Mikros : First my old battered, but trusty and beloved, main, 4 string Ibanez GSRM20 Mikro Bass, out of the December 2010 production, with a mahogany body, maple neck, rosewood fretboard, and currently with just a DiMarzio Model P, P pickup, installed, wired directly to the output jack socket, though the J pickup from the previously installed EMG Geezer Butler P/J pickup set still sits there, but disconnected and lowered considerably : And then my much newer 5 string Ibanez GSRM25 Mikro Bass, out of the January 2019 production, with a poplar body, maple neck, jatoba fretboard, and it's 2 stock J pickups wired in series, though I really need to have them replaced for something better sounding at some point : Both, beside a right out horrifying bad setup, came as good as perfect from factory, practically perfectly leveled and polished frets, and no other flaws whatsoever seemingly. And the 4 string even got what I think might be the most stable neck I ever had on any bass or guitar I have owned, despite a few of those being 1000$+ instruments, holds tuning extremely well, and I almost never have to adjust the truss rod. That one is also one of my absolute favorite basses, if not the single most favorite bass, I ever owned, such a pleasure to play on, and after I swapped the stock pickups with some quality ones it also sounds absolutely great.

Beside Mimi and Chelsea, I kind of also got a thing with Sandy Denny :

Without competition Mimi Parker from Low, who beside being the female lead vocalist, and backing vocalist to her husband, guitarist and male lead singer/backing vocalist of the band, Alan Sparhawk, is also being the drummer/percussionist of the band. Here's some examples of Mimi : Chelsea Wolfe comes in on a clear second place :

Hanging yourself is a guarantied solution to not only heavy basses, but all live's problems, unfortunately no one has yet succeeded in inventing a counter solution to the pretty grave side effect of death it tends to come with, so it should be seen as an absolute last resort solution.

No personal experience with it, but the NUX Melvin Lee Davis Bass Preamp, from their Verdugo Series of pedals, looks great on paper, and sounds great as well judging from the YouTube demos I watched of it, and then it features the possibility for loading 3rd party cab IRs, as well as it got 4 stock IR cab simulations to chose from. It is digital though, but as far as I understand of quite high quality, and it does mean that it is capable of amp modeling, so far the pedal only comes with 2 stock bass amp models to chose from though, one of them being an Aguilar Tone Hammer bass amp, but NUX promise that more bass amp models will be added in the future. And it would be at about almost exact same price tag as the TC Electronic SpectraDrive. I just made a thread about it in fact, with some more factual information, and links to the product's home page and a couple of YouTube demos/reviews of it as well: As far as I can tell, though I wouldn't have any chance of knowing for sure, it ought to be of considerably higher quality than the amp models and cab simulations of the Zoom B3n/B1(x) Four, perhaps rather more similar in quality to the Line6 Helix models, or who knows possibly even of higher/more realistic quality, though in it's nature of basically just being a bass preamp with amp modeling and IR cab simulation capabilities, and certainly at this current point with it's so far only 2 bass amp models to chose from, of course far less versatile, and far more limited in functionality (though, unlike the Zoom at least, it does have a real DI XLR output, as well as other features that makes it have far superior functionality as a preamp/DI unit, though nothing that the Line6 Helix units doesn't also feature).

So I originally planed to get the NUX Solid Studio IR & Poweramp Simulator to make my bass setup more mobile, but after some pondering I am kind of leaning towards getting the NUX Melvin Lee Davis Bass Preamp instead, both from NUX's Verdugo Series of pedals. This preamp pedal features digital amp modeling of both a Nux custom (as far as I understood it) Melvin Lee Davis and an Aguilar Tone Hammer (the actual amp, not the pedal) bass amp, which you can chose between via the software editor, with promise of more amp models becoming available in the future (and as this pedal seems to have just quite recently become available on the market there should yet still be a realistic chance that they actually will keep that promise too, though I would actually be quite satisfied with just the Aguilar Tone Hammer bass amp, at least assuming the modeling is of proper high quality), as well as 4 build IR cab simulations in 24 Bit, 48Khz, 20ms, 1024 Samples, resolution, with room for additionally loading 4 extra 3rd party cab IR files, giving you 8 cab IRs at a time to chose from via the software editor, and the possibility to change out the 4 custom 3rd party cab IRs at any time you should wish with new ones of your choice (the Nux Solid Studio uses 32 Bit, 88,2kHz, 50ms, 2048 samples resolution for the cab IRs, but I have no idea of how much of a real difference that would actually make, as well as if I got that instead I would still need a bass preamp), otherwise the preamp works at 32Bit, 48kHz resolution, and allegedly should have a latency of just 1ms. It all looks great on paper, as far as I can see. Here's the page for the preamp on NUX's homepage: https://www.nuxefx.com/melvin-lee-davis.html And here's a demo/review of it from BassTheWorld on YouTube: And here's a bit more detailed demo of the pedal from YouTube: The price seems amazing for what you get as well, just 152£/165 Euro, and the Nux Tape Core Deluxe, which is a digital Roland Space Echo tape delay emulation pedal, with all the original features plus a bunch other useful ones via a software editor, with capability to save and store the presets, that cost less than half as much as this bass preamp, and which I happen to own, sounds no short of amazing, which also seems to be the general consensus of reviewers around the internet, which I think ought to at least say something about the company's capabilities when it comes to digital modeling/emulations/simulations and the general level of quality vs. the price points of their products. However before I pull the trigger and buy this preamp, are there anyone here on the forum who have actually tried it out or even own one of these pedals them self, who got any advice that could possibly help me decide, their personal opinion of the quality and capabilities of the pedal, and weather they would recommend me for or against buying it, and if so why they think so? Any input from people with actual first hand experience with this pedal really I would much welcome and appreciate. And input from people with first hand experience with other NUX pedals from the Verdugo Series, to which this preamp belongs, would be welcome as well. I should properly point out that I will have no issues with only having access to choosing between the IR cab simulations and amp models from the software editor, as I will really only need one basic great tone from this pedal, and as said, if the modeling of the Aguilar Tone Hammer bass amp that this pedal comes with is of proper high quality that will actually fit me perfectly well, then the rest should hopefully be possible to achieve just by finding the right 3'rd party cab IR and dialing in the EQ of the pedal to my liking.

So you did prove me wrong, and I am happy you did so. I apologize for assuming you had ill intentions. Sometimes assuming the worst is wise, other times it's just a jerk idiot move with nothing to justify it but lack of information to prove your absolutely worst assumptions wrong, which is not exactly right or particularly nice or charming, to say at least. Guess in the end I proved to be the jerk here, sorry. However I still doubt I'd like the Alpha Omega based on the demos I've heard of it. In fact not particularly fond of any of the Darkglass stuff I've heard, and that is not to be a contrary marmalade sandwich, it just happens to not fit my personal preferences for distortion. As for the California Sound, I am not sure if this is a fault of the Joyo version, but used for bass, unlike it's more smooth tone used for guitar, it kind of has this rough, sort of brutal crackling/growling breakup that I quite like, beside in this context really mostly used as an extended EQ section for the Rat.

In that case I totally misunderstood your post, I perceived it as a reply to my OP, which you did mention (which I guess is how the misunderstanding happened to me), though I guess you did in fact not actually quote it. It's all fine with me, guess I just misunderstood your intentions with that post. Still I do genuinely appreciate you introducing me to new music that I didn't know existed, even if it wasn't meant for me personally, or that I didn't love everything about it. It was however still an interesting listen and take on the genre.

Doesn't seem to be able to find a way to include a quote in an edit of a post, so sorry for the double post. I didn't really take it as you guessing where I was going with my project, just you listing/suggesting examples of similar approaches, which is perfectly fine, always happy to be introduced to new music I wasn't aware of the existence of, even if it happens to not be love at first listen. I was just trying to explain which direction I was thinking of going with my project, which seemed to pretty much be perfectly in line with you listing/suggesting examples to me. Especially since you seemed to slightly mistake the topic of this thread for also being the main topic of the project I put it in a context with. Calling my project stoner rock might even be somewhat misleading, but put together with the other musical categories I listed (progressive psychedelic stoner rock) I think it is still more describing for what I am trying to create than if I had just made up my entire own word for it, which no one then would have any chance of getting an idea of what would imply. I appreciate your input and thanks for the music.

I kind of doubt that. Doesn't sound very Rat like to me. Also not too fond of cheeky patronizing comments, lots of truly great music was made on crappy cheap equipment, though cheap doesn't necessarily mean it will also sound crappy. Or that crappy sounding gear can't sound good put in the right context for that matter. At least not if you know how to use it properly and actually use your ears. Not apologizing for being poor here, just raising my voice against rich people who somehow thinks it makes them better persons. As for OM I can only agree, but as I said this is not going to sound like OM at all, just more in that direction than the other example of bass driven stoner rock posted. As I tried to describe it: I guess kind of think very early Pink Floyd but with the musical aesthetics of the band Low, then put that into a more stoner and metal type of music context with some progressive attributes, and with the instrumentation I have in mind utilizing, if that makes sense. Just to use known examples to hint in the direction I am going. Calling it stoner rock might even be somewhat misleading, but put together with the other musical categories I listed (progressive psychedelic stoner rock) I think it is still more describing for what I am trying to create than if I had just made up my entire own word for it, which no one then would have any chance of getting an idea of what would imply. I guess being original doesn't necessarily mean you will get popular. I'd rather stay original though, thank you. That's not to say that you are not allowed to like the snips of bass lines for the songs of my project where I utilize high gain distortion that I will post at some point though, as promised. In fact I kind of hope you will prove my assumptions wrong, based on what that comment of yours seemed to insinuate to me, the world already got way too many jerks as it is.