Nail Soup

This one comes to mind: The Dickies - The Incredible Shrinking Dickies ........comes in at just under 27 mins. The songs are are short and fast, and it does seem long enough.

Great playing - well done Clair! OK, her name is not Clair.... but I did have to Google it! Am I a heathen?

JJ Burnel. Great player, and gets acknowledged as such.

One of my favourites too,........ .........but (pedant on) I think that was a Dee-Dee Ramone lyric (and music). As I understand it: if the Ramones song is about love etc then it's probably Joey.... all the Geeks, Cretins, Lobotomies and general Ramones-world stuff are probably Dee-Dee.

Great thread........ here's the youtube link mentioned previously - just had a listen in memory of Brian...... and it's a great track!

Good point, well made😄! The pursuit of unnecessary perfection!!

I made the same choice... well it was no contest really, PIL all the way. When Metal Box was released on vinyl it was 2*33, so I guess it qualifies for this thread. The Clash and John Lydon both decided to progress from punk, but did it in two different ways. London's Calling sounded like the past, Metal Box sounded like the future.

I guess Townsend was a songwriter first and foremost...... with rhythm and lead guitar very much second and third respectively - thus happy to allow John do that 'lead bass' role when he showed the inclination/ability to do so. I'm not sure the isolation does much for John though - his lines were already clearly audible in the final mix, and they just sound a bit worse on their own. For some other player who made good lines but was buried: I can see why the isolated tracks can prove something.

Nope, still working!

Well, you're a right nasty pasty if you did.

I feel kind of bad about it - but in a different way. Normally I can find something at least about a famous deceased which I liked.... they had a couple of good singles, a couple of good jokes or whatever. But in the case of EVH the whole guitar technique he developed (and is justifiably lauded for) did absolutely nothing for me - zilch. So I feel sad for him, his family/friends and fans.... but not directly. ☹️

I guess that song is related to this one - seems to share some lyrical ideas and tune - first heard it on Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "Kicking Against the Pricks" covers album.

It’s an acquired taste😉

Works: Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band...... fantastic album. Doesnt work: I think generally not good, but a good representative example mot coming to mind

Yes, I already understood that. My point is that if eveyone is trying to play ahead of the beat then what would happen?

Just thinking about playing behind/ahead of the beat. Does it need to be done by arrangement between band members? I'm thinking that if the drummer and bass player both decide to play ahead of the beat it would lead to either both playing on the beat, or a run-away speeding up of the song? Or slowing down for playing behind? So how does it work?

I'm not going specifacally for a bass player, but he happens to be one. I'm not going for someone who no-one who has ever heard of but I think is great (although there are lots to choose from!). That is just a matter of taste rather than under-rating. I'm going for someone who is not in my top list of favourite bands, but whenever I hear them I shake my head at the lack of credit this player gets................... ..... and it is Andy Rourke of the Smiths. His bass playing is as engaging (more on a lot of occasions) as Marrs guitar playing, but scarcely any recognition.

For sure we can skip past them, but I guess the OP was trying to find out what the rest of us think about them...... .... so here goes..... It can seem a bit off if it smacks of self-promotion, which it sometimes will. Might be different if an established artist did it for someone who never got the recognition they deserved in life I guess.

Just heard on 6 Music that Bunny Lee has died aged 79. Responsible for many reggae and dub productions.

This evening on 6 Music (6'oclock UK time I think) on the Steve Lamaq show. As part of a classic albums series.... today it's Handsworth Revolution by Steel Pulse. Steve will play the whole album plus discussion with David Hines. Will be available on BBC Sounds player of course!

Bill Laswell of Last Exit was also in a band with Mick Harris of Napalm Death , along with John Zorn: Painkiller Not surprisingly they played a kind of extreme free jazz/metal hybrid: I bought the first album at the time for the Mick Harris connection....... Zorn/Laswell may not have came on to my radar otherwise.

Oops ..... you were on it pretty quick!

I'm surprised it took this long for someone to question the premise of the OP!

I guess Gary is not the only one. That's the trouble with blues..... it might seem like it's a technical genre, but really it's not.... you need the feel first, the nyou can extend it with technique. Someone with the right feel can play a great blues with an open E chord and a couple of simple emelishments. Many years ago, my parents bought me a place at residential "Blues Guitar" weekend workshop as a birthday present.... the guy teaching it had absolutely no concept that playing blues was anything other than technical excercise. I was really dissapointed as I was hoping for some who would help us tap into our inner blues-person!

Liked it, but was expecting a bit of this: