warwickhunt

If you had the K8 or K10 speakers, would they then be as easy as the Mauis to cay around and set up, especially if you didn't need to take the sub, which to be honest isn't a fair comparison with the Mauis? I'm running just a pair of K10s (no sub) with a 4 piece Americana band (inc drums) and I've not needed the sub for most of those situations (the genre of music dictates the type of venue). It'd be interesting to compare the Mauis V K12 no sub.

A pair of LD Maui 11's will be in excess of £1k (would you also need to buy a desk?), it would be interesting to see how they faired V's a pair of budget 8/10" (RCF310 can be had new pretty cheap) and a little desk (unless you have one?). I think one factor that influenced my decision to go point of source was that with the addition of a single smallish sub you can step up a few levels; whereas to upgrade/step up from stick arrays you need more of the same and I'm not sure if that works equally well? Added to which as a bassist and part time guit-fiddler, I can take a single PA cab and use it as my personal monitor; more flexible than an array might be. However, that is just my circumstances!

What extra hardware would you need to carry for a small PA (single/pair 8"/10") + tiny mixer + stands over a stick and small sub system; especially as the OP is talking about needing a small mixer either way and maybe 2 arrays? Not arguing but we have to be sure we don't lose sight of the point of this question/search. I concede that a single/pair of speaker stands would be needed but we aren't talking about an onerous amount of gear. As to ease of set up and correcting feedback - hmmmmm not much in it with a small point of source 8/10" driver and a little desk, especially if you are talking about the cost outlay for 2 array systems; you could easily be in the realms of buying a little digital desk with will have feedback elimination, scene saves (go back to the same venue and all settings are recalled in a split second) etc. which once set, you can literally plug and play. I'm not anti-array, I think they have a place (solo/duo/cafe/small bar or large venue) but the benefits blur very rapidly as you move to that mid ground 3-4 or more players and medium rooms. Arrays will still cover these middle ground scenarios but you then start to talk about multiple arrays or at least several mini-subs and 'maybe' the point of source small/mid size speaker can work best. For a lot of years I was an advocate for bigger is better (give me 15's and more of them) until I understood the physics involving volume, dispersion etc. As a gigging musician I don't think I've ever known a better time for the standard of gear you can buy for a moderate cost and the level of quality you achieve with it, hence we can debate 4" wide sticks on little boxes and tiny 8" boxes on skinny poles.

I trialled a few systems for multiple uses (guitar/vocal - duo, guitar/bass/vocal trio, 4 piece band with acoustic drums) and even on the duo set ups I found that a pair (or even one) of pole mounted RCF310 out performed a pair of the array set ups (I borrowed a pair off a friend). I elected to upgrade from the RCFs to QSC K10 speakers and a single speaker quite often sufficed for all of the duo work (we used the 2nd K10 as a monitor just running as the second main out so we hear what the audience hear but turned down at the speaker volume control). The trio often got away with one speaker but the 2nd was there if needed and we used 2 K10s for the 4 piece (with drums) they generally worked for most venues but I did buy a small FBT sub for occasions when it was a big room for the full band. I know I'm focusing on the trad speakers over arrays but I could not have used the arrays for full band quiet gigs never mind louder situations and I genuinely found that a single good quality 10 (+horn) gave us a great sound and could be placed quite easily to give zero issues with feedback. Arrays patently work for lots of folk but don't dismiss small good quality trad cabs (which can be as easily transported).

Sustain? We don't need no stinking sustain!

Sorry late to the party but I have designed a product that I'm looking to market in the near future. I'm busy getting a patent but it is 100% guaranteed to inhibit any resonant frequency issues. I know many of us have more than one bass so I intend selling them in multipacks. I'm also intending to produce them in a range of colours to match your bass; sadly sunburst is giving me a bit of grief at the moment! It can be retrofitted to ANY bass inc those with Lightwave string sensor systems. I can't give too much away till I get my patent but... Watch this space!

I looked at the seller's profile; a 'proper' gigging bassist who has sold some very tasty gear in the last couple of years! They knew what they were selling but possibly misjudged the value... well it sold in under 1 hour and the description actually said that they'd take £800 for it but no less... as if! LOL

If you are on the ball (1 hr ago) they still turn up cheap (I didn't buy it)!

I understand why you might think that but from my experience of RM/PF, their tracking is cr4p at best. I received a bass via them and it was still showing as being at the drop off point... hours after it was delivered to me. Conversely I had to enquire about a bass which I posted (insured 3rd party) and I was told that they concede since some form of RM/PF amalgamation that the system wasn't communicating as it should!

Do we know for sure that no insurance was paid out to the seller or buyer, in relation to the original loss? If there has been, then I'd summise that the bass will be the possession of PF.

Now therein lies a conundrum... you can hear a difference between front/rear ported cabs (despite the science saying otherwise), what would the validity of another listeners perception of a comparison be, if they can't hear a difference between front/rear porting?

Funny story. I depped in one of Nick Jennisons band projects and the other guitarist in the band gave me a set list to learn in 3-4 days (no rehearsal). I turned up to the gig to find there was also a dep drummer (3-4 days with the song list, no rehearsal); introductions done we sound checked and had 30 mins till gig start. At this point the drummer and I were chatting about the songs... and it dawned on us that Nick had given the drummer a different set of songs from my list! LOL We winged our way through it but when Nick was launching into a Led Zeppelin riff and you are staring around thinking 'I've never played this in my life', it was character building.