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[quote name='BigAlonBass' timestamp='1393194937' post='2377312'] Funnily enough, a mate of mine has just posted some photo's of a gig there on farcebook, and apparently the audience were "well up for it!" The 'stage' area seems a bit small, but you should get your sylph-like figure tucked in a corner without any problem. [/quote] ...but is there room for my stage diving into the mosh pit and balancing on top of the lighting rig... Oh hang on, it's a Blues gig! [size=4] [/size]

[size=4]Have you heard much of a watering hole 'The Schooner' Al? Luckily, Berb and the boys in the band will make it easy on Saturday... I hope! [/size]

I have a busy weekend ahead. [size=4] [/size] [size=4]Friday... 2 sets of acoustic covers (Washburn AB20) with one of my previous bands; laid back and without a drummer.[/size] [size=4]Saturday... 2 sets depping for a local 'Blues/Americana' band, with some original material.[/size] [size=4]Sunday... 2 sets with my regular 'Rock' covers band.[/size] [size=4]All in all I need to memorise 73 songs (not to worried about that side of things) but oddly the 'Blues' covers are giving me the most jip. Punters for the Friday and Sunday gigs will happily accept my interpretations of the anticipated bass lines but th[/size][size=4]e Blues Nazis will be expecting me to play the original scales/lines and to get through the gig (6 days notice to learn the sets) I may well be ad-libbing much of it. [/size] [size=4]I'm not unduly worried but do those who find themselves playing in unfamiliar styles/genres ever get the feeling that they are not quite doing justice even though they are confident/competent/proficient in others styles/genres? It may be compounded by the fact that I've no rehearsal time with the Blues band and I'll be busking the beginnings and ends... and quite possibly most of the middle. [/size]

Alternative... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AtNecByo1o

'been around the block'... also known as having MoJo. [size=4] [/size]

[quote name='Japhet' timestamp='1392829488' post='2373228'] Do guitars actually sound bad through bass gear though? Guitarist in my band now plays through a Fender Bassman 1x15 combo which sounds great using pedals for distotion. I always wanted him to hook up to my Ashdown 4x8 but never got round to it. [/quote] The EQ is voiced different for guitar/bass but not to say you can't use. Bass through guitar gear will generally run out of headroom pretty quick, so a bass player using 50w of guitar gear is going to be crucified by a guitarist using same. Conversely, a guitarist will have loads of clean headroom if using bass gear 'especially' if he is using effects to get his sounds (in particular distortion).

[quote name='Torben Hedstrøm' timestamp='1392818993' post='2373052'] But postage for a 30 kg. cab is something like £870 or so I hear [/quote] Really? [size=4] [/size]

I agree with Muzz. Just throwing speakers into a cab (regardless of cost/type) will give a random result which might well work but for the cost and to factor out the possibility of making an expensive gamble, I'd spend the same money on a used (or poss even new) cab. Cabs are (meant to be) designed around speakers, or vice versa and unless you are going to put OEM drivers in I'd not take the chance.

Lots of good sound scientific knowledge around to debunk the notion that '[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=4]when turned up, the dual 12" runs out of breath faster than the 15"' or that 15 goes lower than 10 etc but ultimately our ears decide what 'we' like best. [/size][/font][/color]

Tis true and folks can't respond on the thread/post.

Check out a couple of the stickies at the top of the section on amps/cabs. In short though... if your drivers in the combo (combined) are 8 ohm and the ext cab is 8 ohm you will get max output from the amp and do no harm to any single piece.

No 'logic' to the shocks, they are purely (ugly) aesthetic!

Each to his own I suppose but I'll not be joining the queue even if they are giving them away for free! [size=4] [/size]

[size=4] [/size] [size=4]I think it's perfect debate material. The very fact that folks with lots of first hand knowledge of amps (with/without DI) are discussing the features of an amp, helps us and others form opinions/decisions. As you say it's no big deal but if we didn't have this banter you may as well not bother responding to any thread. [/size]

[quote name='walbassist' timestamp='1392451807' post='2368860'] Major thread derailment guys If you want the DI version of this head then buy it. If you don't, dont. [/quote] 'Derailment'... debating the merits of the features of an amp! [size=4] Really?[/size][size=4] [/size]

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1392423533' post='2368752'] Funnily enough I got the opposite effect recently. Turned up at recording studio with a really good idea of what I wanted to sound like. [/quote] Good point but when it relates to whether to exclude a DI on an expensive amp, why bother with ANY amp if you are recording with a half decent engineer? To whit the next point... [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1392432059' post='2368823'] When there's PA support, rigs only need to be used for on stage monitoring purposes. [/quote] Absolutely, at which point the nuances of the effect that the superb power amp section of your rig has on your tone, is likely negated and will be totally lost on even the band, never mind the audience. [size=4] [/size][size=4] [/size] [size=4]Not picking holes and arguments, simply that I find it fascinating that we (and I am prime candidate #1) chase the elusive goal of tonal nirvana and debate the [/size]subtitles[size=4] of the effect of power amps over tone or the need for a neutral cab (not me on the last one) etc but lets be honest it's 95% for our benefit rather than 'the music'. I for one know that I could do 99% of what I do with one of my student 'Stagg' basses, a cheap low brand (sufficiently loud) amp/cab/combo and a cheap DI box; actually I wouldn't need that as a live sound engineer would supply that. [/size] [size=4]...you can drop the need for a DI from my Demeter order! [/size]

[quote name='skej21' timestamp='1392409620' post='2368529'] Also, most FOH engineers don't want the same EQ/tone that's coming from your amp, they want a dry signal and sort the EQ themselves [/quote] Therein lies the enigma; you fine hone 'your sound' with a lush amp/cab set-up and then a hairy assed sound guy does whatever he wants to get the sound that a ) he wants to hear b ) fits the room acoustics!

So it's likely to be closer to the £1500 if you want the DI included; I for one can't see the point of 'excluding' a DI as you never know when circumstances will change and you may need one.

Is it that much more to have it included?