warwickhunt

You can 'almost' guarantee that if the shop haven't bothered labelling it, then it will be the cheapest NT model they do but they will be hoping that some poor sole will do the most basic of research and think that they are getting a bargain of a Euro (or similar) Spector. I recall a shop some years back punting out a NT Spector that had no model designation, just a price and the guys in the shop kept alluding to the fact that it was the 'top of the range' Spector and that 'Spectors are made in the USA, you know' etc. I listened in to some of this patter being directed to a young bassist (with his Father who was looking to get him a quality bass) before feeling the need to step in and ask what the bass was 'specifically'! The shop assistants went all coy and elusive and I pressed them about their previous comments and asked if they were saying that it was a USA NS2... the manager/head sales honch came across and said that they had taken it in part-ex and didn't know which model it was as the back of the headstock had been sanded (REALLY, a shop would take in a bass in part-ex and give a value in ignorance of what it was... ). I pointed out some of the obvious indicators that it was a Euro, such as the body wood sandwich with the walnut spacer (luckily it wasn't one of the earlier EURO Spectors with the solid maple wings that looks even more similar to the USA NS2) and they said they'd take my advice on board and research further. So here was a used Spector bass for £1200; cheap for a USA NS2 but bloody expensive for a Euro. I'm not saying that the shop were strictly doing anything illegal (or that they had sanded the headstock) but as a bystander to the conversations they were certainly trying to hint that this was a USA bass without actually saying those words.

I was another watcher (who didn't live in the seller's locality) of that bass and I was surprised that it had to get relisted as many times before it went.

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1335993661' post='1639353'] If you put a car through a car auction are you allowed to bid up your own motor? you'd get fairly short change if you did. [/quote] Wrong! For a lot of years I bought cars at car auctions (for my own personal use) and on one occasion I sold a car at auction and I was told by the auction house (a major national) that if my car was put into their auction (it wasn't a young enough car to qualify for the allowance of a reserve) that I could bid my car up and if I was the highest bidder that I just needed to instruct the staff who take the deposits that it was my car and they would put the car through the next auction. Now if I was being told that I could do that, then your little back street garage must have been doing it for years. That is FACT! It certainly opened my eyes to the fact that bidding off the wall wasn't the worst practice at car auctions.

[quote name='dougal' timestamp='1335972933' post='1638865'] So I was in a guitar centre in Paramus New Jersey, and I spotted this in the 'used' section. Long story short I used to live in the US and had an 8x10 and head & pre & some other stuff to trade, so she came to me, if not for a song, then not feeling too bad. Passive Super J I know nothing about her, except she's canadian, came with an after-burners allen keys & non-original case (which is rubbish...) [/quote] Why do you do this to me Dougal? I've always fancied a Dingwall and that is my fave colour combo (shame you didn't find one with a P bass body style and JJ pups. will now have to PM you every 6 mths asking if you are in the mood to sell the Dingwall... the Sadowsky now stays with me for eternity though!

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1335963643' post='1638677'] That doesn't stop the shillers pushing your bid up . so you end up paying more because you have someone bidding whose only intention is to get more coinage out of you rather than a genuine bidder fighting it out. [/quote] +1

It's swings and roundabouts. I recently pulled my Parker Fly bass from ebay as I was offered a very good price for it by an ebayer; subsequently when I ended the listing he went cold and backed out of the deal. However, an Ibanez bass that I had listed same day I left to run, despite some interest but not great bidding it went for £150 more than I had offered it to somebody on here for! I have to confess that I will not show my hand on a bass that I am interested in until the last seconds... we all have our own ways of doing things but I prefer to pay as little as possible! I should qualify the above; if you/everyone bids early on a bass it can and does induce certain types of people to revise their bids up even though they have set a maximum (they psychologically have taken ownership of the bass and don't want anyone to get it). However if you don't reveal interest in a bass, the type of person mentioned previously, doesn't feel compelled to rethink their price as they remain confident that they will get ownership at the amount that they put in. It's all 'headology' in the world of auctions/buying/selling!

I'd challenge anyone in a blind test to tell the difference between a set of MEC's and a set of pukka EMGs when installed in a Warwick bass and that is regardless of whether it was a recording hosted on the net or (particularly) in a live setting. TBH 'if' there were any difference between them I'd bet you'd hear the same difference between an hours wear on your new strings! Don't get me wrong I'm not some fawning Warwick fan, I know they have there weaknesses like any bass (jack-socket... JAN II anyone? LOL) but the pups in the top end Warwicks are a matter of taste and one is not better than the other. Saying that, I've no idea what pups are in the OP's bass so it may be irrelevant!

Crikey Moses! Those pups look a bit mad mind! Not heard of those before.

There is still the offer on ebay of brand new Marshall 8x10's available for £150; though I do realise that you say you are skint, you'd need to get something soon so this could make sense if you can sell your present cab and put that towards an 8x10. However... the obvious answer is educate the band to turn down!

[quote name='Musky' timestamp='1335680031' post='1634448'] The deal is that it's not a 1969 Fender. [/quote] +1 Just because it has a serial number that dates to 69 engraved/stamped on a plate, you'd have to be wrong in the head to take that as proof!

[quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1335594209' post='1633466'] Hmm, these sound rubbish in these videos! I'm sure I've heard them elsewhere sounding better than that. [/quote] The clip in post #7 sounds fine to me played through decent speakers! I'd be happy enough with a tone like that from an acoustic bass (even amplified)... I've heard a lot worse.

LOL must learn to type and think faster! Though KiOgon and I appear to be saying the same thing.

If I was laying out that kind of money on a bass I'd be wanting the neck off when I arrived to collect (I'd not be paying and having the bass shipped) and I'd be going over it with a fine tooth comb... or taking a Fender 'vintage' expert with me. However on inspection of those pics and if I was to make a call based solely on those pics, I'd say that it looks pukka vintage (the back of the neck looks very clean but that's not to say it isn't genuine), though without the pot codes and dates from the neck I'd not know if it was exactly 69.

[quote name='P100GSteve' timestamp='1335422517' post='1630688'] so i bought the Peterson and just have to say it's got a lovely rich jazz & blues tone. But... up against my Fender SE i prefer the bigger sound that i get from the 2x10's and have now decided to sell the wee beasty... so i'm up for some serious offers. Thanks Steve[attachment=106138:544532_10150654444108021_598658020_9238475_269928765_n.jpg][attachment=106139:548124_10150654445298021_598658020_9238485_1144294602_n.jpg][attachment=106140:562793_10150654445058021_598658020_9238483_964120045_n.jpg] [/quote] As was pointed out earlier, it was always going to struggle against newer/bigger kit but a nice looking combo. Forum etiquette is that you'll need to stick a thread up in the sales section and add a price, which shouldn't be too hard as you've just bought it.

USA - Now showing as in transit to Louisville USA. UK - Out for delivery from Gateshead GB! UK may win yet.

The only band I've seen on Jools for a long time that has made me sit up, take notice and actually get off my backside to see where they are playing near Newcastle... Nowhere! LOL