warwickhunt

[quote name='BasH' post='1251418' date='May 31 2011, 01:15 PM']What are they in the UK? Maybe the biggest difference is the fact that the RH450 is slightly cheaper in the Netherlands vs. UK.[/quote] Approx 20% though as you say if the initial price is lower in Holland than the UK then it'd explain why it has been attractive to order from the States. Though that has to be a ridiculous scenario when a Danish Co. can export their products to The States and sell them cheaper than in a European country!

[quote name='silddx' post='1250548' date='May 30 2011, 05:47 PM']Not all Warwick truss rods are created equal I have never had any issues of this nature with four Warwicks I've had. And I messed with the truss rods quite a lot.[/quote] +1 I've owned... LOADS of Warwicks ( ) and I have to say that despite hearing of the dreaded truss rod affliction that wrecks Warwick basses, I've yet to have issue with a rod. Actually, I take that back; I had one Warwick that the owner had used a cheap badly fitting allen key on and it did chew the adjuster a bit... mainly because the plonker hadn't sussed in the first 1/8 - 1/4 of a twist that the rod acted in reverse to the norm. The bass came to me with the biggest bow/highest action in the world and a disgruntled owner professing that he couldn't twist the rod any further no matter how hard he tried! 5 minutes later after relaxing the rod right off (using a good quality allen key and some care), I had a flat fingerboard and a stammering owner standing next to me professing that it was all the fault of the manufacturer.

[quote name='BasH' post='1251212' date='May 31 2011, 11:05 AM']Well, if I calculate what the cheapest price on ebay is for an RH450 (approx. 400 euro + 65 euro shipping) and add all the import duties in the Netherlands, it is only 100 euro cheaper than what I'd pay for it at my local music store (which is literally around the corner). For that small difference I prefer to support my local vendor, and have the assurance that I can walk to them when any problems might occur.[/quote] What are the import duties in Holland? It's a significant saving in the UK, especially if it slips through the HMC&E net.

We've had a couple pass through BC... wonder if it is a BCer that has had it stolen or if it is a bass that has previously belonged to a BCer! Not the commonest bass around and certainly not in that colour.

The seller is about 5 mile from me (even closer to cd_david) though I have no idea who said seller is! 'IF' anyone was serious about this and they want me to check that the guy actually possesses it, give me a shout; though I would have to stress, I give no guarantee that I can verify authenticity of a vintage Fender V (though after 30 years of playing, I can probably spot the glaringly obvious)!

Watched the 1st prog but missed 2nd. Love hearing and watching early Queen stuff but there is that point in their career where they went too mainstream and lost it for me... IMHO.

[quote name='bigsmokebass' post='1251104' date='May 31 2011, 09:31 AM']i suppose you could soup up a squier, no problem with that but it still wont be a fender [u]or sound near enough as good[/u].[/quote] Why shouldn't it sound anywhere near as good? As for still not being a Fender... the inclusion of the word Fender on the headstock does not in itself dictate that a bass is better than a copy of said bass!

[quote name='alexclaber' post='1250573' date='May 30 2011, 06:09 PM']The cabs being in opposite polarity will only affect the real bottom in the sound - plugging a reversed polarity cab in will add the usual extra loudness from the low-mids upwards but the sound will get thinner at the same time. Correct the polarity and the true bottom returns but nothing really changes above the low frequency region. I have a reverse polarity lead in the workshop for testing so I'm very familar with its effects![/quote] +1 and as a result the volume will 'appear' quieter, certainly in comparison to a correct polarity 2x10 combo. However, there could be numerous reasons for an apparent lack of volume/clout but I wouldn't be thinking first and foremost that it was a lack of mids from the GS cabs as there's not a massive amount of difference from say the DBs and from when I've heard them in use they 'should' be wiping the floor with a 2x10 MAG combo. As for flat not being flat - iirc if the Eden is modelled on the passive tone whats-its-face like say the Alembic preamp (as per the Hartke 500), then with everything at 12.00 it will actually be boosting a bit of mids won't it?

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='1250398' date='May 30 2011, 03:39 PM']Use the 9v battery trick to check the polarity on both.[/quote] Good point, as it's easily done if you are using Speakon - 1/4" As to out of phase speakers possibly not being the culprit; accepted it could be any one of half a dozen reasons but the easiest checked is plugging the amp into other speakers (not using your cables) or trying a pair of cables with your amp that you know have matched polarity. If anyone is unfamiliar with the effect of having cables/speakers out of phase it's akin to plugging in a second cab and getting 25% less out than with one cab... a marked difference! Has the OP tried using just one cab at a time? I really don't see it being the case of the EQ isn't working with the cabs. I'd expect that any 500w amp with EQ set flat with a pair of GS cabs, should easily outshine the existing 2x10 Ashdown combo (especially a MAG version). Just my thoughts!

What's your budget?

[quote name='MythSte' post='1249513' date='May 29 2011, 06:51 PM']Another suggestion that the cabs might be out of phase with each other here. A quick rewire (of the cabs or the leads, but not both!) will sort this out. I used to have a pair of warwick cabs, an ND12 and ND15 and there was no volume when cranked, whipped the speaker out of one and crossed the wires over and boom, job done [/quote] The quickest way to check (after you've tried each cab by itself and then combined, quieter or at least not as full sounding combined when compared to each in isolation) is to swap ONE of the poles on ONE of your leads (assuming they are speak-on). That should fix your problem... if it is a polarity issue!

Speaker leads! Firstly, are they decent quality? I recently bought back an old amp (250w) and cab that I sold years ago and the guy gave me his speaker cable. Plugged it all in and it was PATHETIC! I had the input and output maxed and I wouldn't have even had enough volume to rehearse in the house. Checked the speaker lead and it was a silly skinny mic lead; replaced it with a proper speaker cable and hey presto. Secondly, are the speakers/speaker leads in phase? On more than one occasion I've heard of people borrowing cabs and speaker leads and then complaining that the sound is quieter with two cabs than it is with one (have you tried that), a classic indicator that something is out of phase. I've heard a pair of GS112 cabs being driven by a DB750 and with my Thunderfunk and they had plenty of Ooomph.

[quote name='thebassman' post='1249013' date='May 29 2011, 11:29 AM']That is if the US music shops will ship to the UK. I tried getting some Ampeg gear a few years back and some of the bigger stores, said they were not allowed to export, something to do with world Market price fixing. Lucky for some if they do though.[/quote] There are agreements between manufacturers and distributors/retailers but you can usually find someone far enough removed down the distribution chain who needs the sales and is prepared to keep mum about supplying to the UK. Manufacturers may not like it (especially when they've put these agreements in place) but they must realise that it happens and as has been pointed out, it is a kick in the nuts to anyone moving on an RH450/Classic!

[quote name='Bellypopper' post='1248417' date='May 28 2011, 04:54 PM']Hi All I really fancy a Musicman, and have seen this one on ebay [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Musicman-Stingray-Ltd-2005-/250824011583?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a6646af3f"]Here[/url] Is this a good deal? I am suprised that nobody has bid on it Cheers Russ[/quote] I sold one of these last year for less than his starting price and that included the official ltd ed case. What may be putting people off is his reference to the bass not being in the UK.

If you've managed to relic the Sting bass like that it reinforces why I'll NEVER buy a vintage instrument!

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='1248203' date='May 28 2011, 01:17 PM']Surely the interest with this bass (and the reason we are talking about it) is because of [b]who's[/b] it is and not [b]what[/b] it is? People put far too much stock in "mojo" these days (imho) but this bass is the embodiment of mojo and has it's place in the history of music. This bass is quite literally world famous.[/quote] I'm struggling to agree with folks on this one! I loved the BHs and it was my era yet I'd have had no idea that this bass was NW's 'trademark' instrument. 'Literally world famous'... hmmmm maybe among a select clique of fellow bassists or musos but I'd be inclined to think that his bass wouldn't be high in many other folks estimation. If you are drawing a comparison to JE then he was literally a pioneer as much for his band as him as a bass player. Maybe it's just that I can't see £10k-£15k in a 60's bass that by our keen eyed detectives may have discrepancies! However that's the great thing, we all have our views and there may well be a BH/NW fan out there who has a spare £15k, who will prove me wrong.

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='1248153' date='May 28 2011, 12:34 PM']chris_b and Molan are bang on the money Bob BUT are you sure you really have to sell right now? I'm well aware that you know this, but the market is absolutely in the toilet just now. I can't think of a worse time to be converting high-end basses into cash. Is there really nothing else you could be selling/doing which would allow you to hang on to these basses until the market recovers?[/quote] I should learn to type faster! It does show that we are thinking the same thing though.

I have to say Bob that I don't think that the current values of basses (especially non-vintage Fender ) are strong enough to warrant selling them to supplement any plans to bank/pension the funds... not right now any way. I'd have to say that were it me I'd be keeping that as your back up plan possibly to cash in on when the economy recovers and folks will spend a bit more. I'm sure I'm not dissimilar to a lot of the mature players on here who have a bit of disposable income and though I've got funds for a nice bass, in the present climate I'm holding out for something but it really does have to be at a decent price.

[quote name='neilb' post='1248021' date='May 28 2011, 10:46 AM']Possibly, but the logo itself is inconsistent. Some elements of a 62, some of a 64 or later. [u]Anyway, its Normans bloody bass[/u]!!!!!! (have I already said that?)[/quote] I think the originality/validity of the bass will affect its value far more than whether the venerable NW owned/played it. So if Barrie's estimate of £10-£15k is right, that's going to be pretty pricey for what could potentially be a bit of a hybrid as opposed to an all original.

Don't dismiss ebay as all bad and a last resort! I've sold a couple of basses on ebay recently and got significantly more on ebay than I was offered on Basschat (even taking into account fees).