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[quote name='rob_89' post='1043260' date='Dec 1 2010, 03:40 AM']My band is due to start gigging in the new year and were looking to get a PA system What kind of power would we need? We'll be playing pubs and clubs mainly. Also, any brands to recommend??? Cheers, Rob[/quote] Get double what you think you need and then you'll just about be OK! We have a 12 channel Soundcraft desk (basic but noise free and does the job, though we have a cheapy graphic in a small 2U rack with the effects) with 2 Aux for use with my 3 piece (all 3 sing) and we have just enough channels; drums can eat up 3-6 channels with no problem, then you are talking one for each instrument or vocal (don't forget if the guitarist uses an acoustic that needs a channel as well as the electric). The two aux means we can use one for monitors and one for the reverb (desk doesn't have built in effects). The 6 piece band that I am in (5 of us sing) ALSO have a 12 channel desk (Yamaha MG range which is very good and comprehensive especially for the price) but we sub mix the drums in a 4 channel mini-mixer to free up channels... wish we'd bought the bigger desk in this series. Both bands share a set of RCF powered tops and a single bass bin with a combined RMS of 2200watts; plenty headroom for pub gigs and manages small to medium clubs fine. If budget allows I'd go for powered speakers especially as some of the newer ones are dead light and the set-up/strip down is dead easy. These are just top of the head idea of what we have but your needs might be different, as may your budget.

[quote name='Delberthot' post='1047397' date='Dec 4 2010, 03:11 PM']That's the first time I've seen that Ebay ad - today I think there's abiout 2 or 3 threads already about it[/quote] The thing is, unless people are a bit more specific in what 'their' thread title is about other folks don't bother looking at the other threads. I should know, I started a thread on the same bass because I hadn't read the existing thread with the title 'MMM Tempting!'... that thread could be about anything, how is the casual browser meant to realise that is about an overpriced Ric (not a direct dig at [u]that[/u] thread starter but it does help if the thread title actually gives some kind of clue)?

[quote name='Jazzjames' post='1047499' date='Dec 4 2010, 04:21 PM']Hello, I'm thinking of buying a 4x10 cab for use on loud function gigs, and a few in my price range have popped up, but they're all 8 ohm impedance. Is there a way of rewiring the cab to make it 4 ohms? Thanks, James[/quote] The short answer is an emphatic NO! Do some research and you are likely to find that a sensitive 8ohm cab will likely give you more than a less sensitive 4ohm cab, there are loads more factors to take into account than just the 'quoted' ohmage of the cab. You don't say what you have already but I'm assuming the new cab would be used as a standalone and not added to your existing cab (which I'm again guessing is 4ohm)!

[quote name='gareth' post='1047646' date='Dec 4 2010, 06:49 PM']I make a 1/3rd of £700 - £800 less than £500 [/quote] That's what I was getting at; the JV's 'should' be worth about 1/3 of a Fender but you try finding one for less than £500! As to where I get the 1/3 figure from, that is based upon their respective new values (I know they weren't exactly a 1/3rd of the price) and what any other similar manufacturers instruments are worth from that period... actually saying that if you look at the value of similar budget instruments from that period that are probably of as good a build quality the JV still far outstrips the competition in rising values.

[quote name='gareth' post='1047596' date='Dec 4 2010, 05:56 PM']So what is a "reasonable" price for a jv squier bass?????????[/quote] TBH it's a 27-28 year old Japanese copy of a Fender bass so theoretically it should be worth about 1/3 as much as an equivalent Fender from that period... lets say £700 - £800 for the Fender. If you can find a JV for less than £500 you are doing well and some folks will want you to pay in excess of £1000 (i.e. MORE than the real article), which in the cold light of day is silly. However, as has been stated it's a case of supply and demand; not too many being sold (wonder how many were produced and in what ration to the equivalent Fender product), loads of people wanting them, so prices are high. Still wish I had one of mine but I'm not going to cry about it as I've owned and sold better basses and don't regret selling them, it's simply me being petulant because I could have still had an instrument worth x5-10 times what I paid for it!

[quote name='KK Jale' post='1047549' date='Dec 4 2010, 05:12 PM']Good point... but note my hardware mention... let's say s/h CV P for £200, Wizard pickup for £50, good 'tronics w.pots & jack for £20, plus US nickel elephant ear tuners, US nickel bridge, I'm guessing here but say getting on £100... you've got an outlay of nearly £370, you'll lose £120+ on resale unless you part it and even then you'd struggle, but if you'd spent £490 in the first place you wouldn't lose a bean I have vast experience in justifying GAS expenditure [/quote] Hmmm but my view is that you'd be buying a 'used' JV for a sum getting on towards a four figure sum (where can I get a good un for £490) and yet I've personally owned a CV Jazz with full EMG pups which I bought and sold for £200 (in fact I bought and sold it TWICE for those figures) and I've also very recently bought and sold a CV Precision which was upgraded with the very things that you quoted apart from the tuners being reverse geared Gotohs and all for less than £200! I agree with you that by and large the JV is 'likely' to be a better bass than the CV but at about x4 the price the JV looks a bit overpriced... all just one persons opinion though and doesn't stop me also having GAS.

[quote name='KK Jale' post='1047441' date='Dec 4 2010, 03:46 PM']I think if you're really trying to make a CV exactly as good as a JV, by the time you've upgraded the pots, pickup and junked the peel-o-matic chromeware for actual nickel plated then you've have been better off with a JV.[/quote] I'm not saying that you are wrong about many JV basses being good basses (I've likewise owned several inc the original large Fender logo bass) but I agree with several on here that good as they are they can't justify almost 4 figure prices BUT as has also been said it's a case of supply and demand. If people are going to think that they are significantly better than equivalent Fender basses then unfortunately/fortunately prices will remain high. Taking you up on the quote above; if you upgraded a CV as you've stated you would have a VERY good bass. However, to say that if you are going to do that you'd be better off buying a JV, you may be correct except for one small matter... where can I find a JV for £250!

[quote name='KK Jale' post='1047400' date='Dec 4 2010, 03:14 PM']With all due respect to the CV's, they are not as good. Not even nearly.[/quote] A sweeping statement... every JV bass made was better than every CV bass made to date? That's a brave statement to make!

It's always difficult when a courier firm isn't 'solely' responsible from collection to point of delivery! You tend to find that one will blame the other and deflect any blame (though this is difficult for the UK courier to do as they handed it over to someone and got a signature). I'm sure we'll all keep eyes and ears peeled but I'd be starting a claim asap as I can't see this bass turning up any time soon unless a neighbour has taken it in and just not had time to knock on the recipient. It does leave you in a position whereby you are being asked to refund as the bass is undelivered! Best of luck to both of you.

[quote name='Musky' post='1047331' date='Dec 4 2010, 02:16 PM']Like Nick I've not used an HH cab, but quite honestly there are very few drivers dating back to the late 70's that can handle bass at a decent volume.[/quote] I used to have one of the horizontal HH 2x15 cabs (early/mid 80's) and that used to struggle with the moderate output of the monster 200w amps I used back then! Mind I loved the fact that I could drop the back seats in my old Renault 5 and the cab, amp and bass fitted in snuggly.

Maybe it's going to be a surprise Christmas present and Joe will refund you a massive part of your purchase price for the inconvenience of having to wait... or maybe not!

[quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' post='1047294' date='Dec 4 2010, 01:37 PM'][/quote] Could be worse mine's the same overall shape but it has 'F' holes in it... now you don't want to be doing that in public and talking about F holes!

[quote name='JPJ' post='1047194' date='Dec 4 2010, 11:11 AM']Might have to have a trip down to the 'Ox to check you boys out[/quote] [quote name='wateroftyne' post='1047201' date='Dec 4 2010, 11:19 AM']I must check you chaps' bands out at some point soon...[/quote] The pair of you should try and get down to the gig on the 17th, it'll be a laugh. What was this thread about again...

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1047164' date='Dec 4 2010, 10:38 AM']My dad has piles of H||H stuff... he's got a guitar combo (somewhere in the pile in the pic below) [/quote] I take it they are stacked in the garage like that specifically for these winter moments... fire them all up and bask in the valve warmth.

[quote name='JPJ' post='1047183' date='Dec 4 2010, 11:02 AM']Haha but sadly no! We do our own version, completely unrehearsed because the two guitarists hate the song with a vengeance. Normally by the time we play it (first encore) nobody in the room is too bothered as the alcohol is taking it's full effect so no complaints so far [/quote] I've heard JPJ's band do this song and they do a fine rendition other than far too slow... oh and too quiet! I am of course leaving myself 'wide-open' for when he get to come and see my band do a similar set to his.

[quote name='alanbass1' post='1047165' date='Dec 4 2010, 10:39 AM']I have waxed the neck of my Thumb NT when doing the rest of the bass and it seems OK to me.[/quote] Doesn't do the neck any harm whatsoever and depending upon your playing style the feeling may not be perceptible to you when you play. I've set-up and tried other people's Warwicks and some have a heavily waxed neck which I couldn't play as I felt the wax created a drag to my thumb moving on the back of the neck, yet the owners felt that my relatively unwaxed neck felt odd. It could be down to how warm your hands get and/or how dry your hands are when you play but if it feels OK then that is all that matters.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1047137' date='Dec 4 2010, 10:11 AM']It's popular with pub bands because most of the pub-gig going public like it - for a good reason, too. IMO, it's a great song. It's an easy song to play, but a hard song to play well - not just the bass, but the whole band too. Whenever I've seen a pub band do it, 95% of the time they murder it. It's too fast, too straight, no dynamics... I'm sure JPJ's band do it spot on, though. [/quote] Come and adjudge how we do it at The Fat Ox on the 17th... can't resist shameless plugs!