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  1. warwickhunt
    Back to square 1 for me! I've no idea why, considering desk settings were saved, but last 2 gigs I've set up, plugged in and been assaulted by this god awful IEM bass tone! PA guy assures me there is now no compression or effects on my Aux send (wired to P2 > IEM) but I have this buzzy/compressed bass tone which is a million miles removed from the FOH sound but apparently that is the compromise for using cheap IEM... this has led to heat exchanges as the IEM may be cheap but when I play ANY other sound source through them there is no compression/distortion. I've plugged the drummers studio headphones into my P2 at the gig and it sounds exactly the same, so imho nothing to do with my choice of earphones. Thinking it through, I've never actually listened to any of the other Aux sends that the drummer and guitarist use so I'll be checking that. It has been suggested that I use my A&H 4 channel mixer to get a DI bass tone + a feed from the PA and I mix from that for my IEM, which is an option. However we are doing a theatre gig this weekend so it'll be interesting to give the engineer my feed and see what I get back as a mix!
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    Same guitarist in my 2 bands has been a fan of the modelling stuff for nigh on 20 years; firstly into FRFR (before it was called FRFR), presently IEM no backline. He has and uses combinations of AxeFX, Helix, Tone-x and I'm certain at least 3 more which all give a cracking FOH sound and the cheapest of these is a few hundred quid, not thousands, which when you compare to the price of a good amp/cab/combo is comparable by the time you've bought a set of IEM etc. I've been cajoled, goaded and theoretically bullied into foregoing my trad amp/cab for a preamp with amp sim or cab IR + IEM and I must say that it likely sounds great out front but as far as me monitoring how I sound through IEM you can stick it where the sun doesn't shine! This is likely something to do with the desk set up and/or the PA owner/operator (said guitarist) but either way I am 1 or 2 gigs away from telling him/them to just deal with my backline as that's what I'll be using in future.
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    Your average gigging muso (not pro touring band) has never had it so good. 50-60's they had very little in the way of loud amplification or efficient cabs; a couple of 10-20w guitar rigs (that included bass) and 'maybe' 50 - 100w WEM PA. 60-70's saw the relatively cheap transistor amplification taking over and 50w guitar and 100 - 200w bass rigs were available. 80-90's... we are into 500w bass amps being readily available and a 1000w power amp driving your passive tops was normal. 00's to the present day - watts are dirt cheap (and mean little), you can buy a 500-1000w bass amp for a couple of hundred quid; PA's are active 2000w per side and weigh little in comparison to the past! A lot of generalisation obviously but through time, amplification has increased in power and efficiency, whilst getting cheaper. We would (almost) all have bought into the ethos of needing the biggest and best and what of our drummer friends... they hit harder, so the band play louder; a vicious circle?
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    Can you expand?
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    Gawd I hope so. Thankfully the additional work hasn't cost me!
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    Update... It seems to be operating absolutely great. Fingers crossed for long term operation.
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    I think Bill would agree that anyone playing with a loud drummer should take care of their hearing but you are likely missing the point that everyone else on the thread thinks. This being that your 'present' amp + cab should be so loud that you almost need double ear protection. Adding another amp to drive another cab is not what most folk are suggesting is the answer to your problem. 1100 watts into a pair of Big Twins is at a point (or way beyond) where PA should be carrying the bass. Personally from what you've said about clipping/distortion, you've got an issue that needs addressing before you add more amps/cabs!
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    Great amps! I had the 550 (foolishly sold it), bought the 750... then bought my original 550 which I foolishly sold back.
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    I bought one (as well as 3 other preamps) in my pursuit of IEM tone as you are... to find it was the fault of the desk, not my gear choices. Oddly I've gone back to the Sansamp which I had all along. I've had no issues with software, though I did read up how to avoid the issue if it did happen. Only thing I find is that I can't 'quite' get the smidgen of drive that I require; it tends to go from no drive to too much, despite balancing level and drive. However, I might not be using it to its best ability or missing some important interaction. Don't get me wrong it is very good and defo gives you a more realistic amped tone but I'm finding the sansamp or Paradrive does what I want easier!
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    NuX MLD? Not mega expensive but you have 3 amps 8 cabs and mid control (+drive).
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    Messaged
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    I do have my own aux mix which allows me to mix the instruments in my IE (on my phone) but our ongoing issues have been the actual tone/sound of the bass through my IE. It has been an awful buzzy, boxy, compressed tone. Don't ask me why I didn't immediately identify compression as the main culprit but I was too busy chasing my tail thinking it was MY equipment/IEM that was either generating the awful tone or I was inducing latency. I'm hopeful that if I can just get clean, unadulterated signal from the input to the aux, I can leave the FOH to do what it wants/needs.
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    Indeed! Our analogue desk (in use till last year) had 1 knob compression and I bet you can guess how it was set... OFF. I'm off to Google/youtube how to use this desk/interface.
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    It will happen but it's like herding hungry kittens at meal time! We've agreed to at least get to the gig 30 minutes early so that I can get a baseline setting to work from with no effects, compression, added IRs or anything applied to my aux send. iirc we did try this but the interface interaction from my phone is limited; hence I'm taking along a tablet and I'll get our guy to just show me how to access all menus on my aux and go from there! Any tip to globally switch off everything on an aux send (Soundcraft iu16)?
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    Sound engineer is our guitarist/singer. Loads of experience with assorted guitar/PA gear but I don't think he is approaching the use of the i16 desk and it's complexity anywhere near as much as he could. Part of our problem is we have never in close to 10 years had so much as a band rehearsal; we turn up to gigs an hour before start time, set up the kit and play (material is learned at home in isolation and played/busked/improved at the gig). We've had multiple 'discussions on the fact that what I hear through my IE is a compressed/farty/buzzy/mush and the responses always reverted to 'compromise'... which I was at the point of saying that I'm not compromising what 'I' want to hear for the sake of anybody. Possibly a selfish approach but it was at the point where I wasn't even enjoying playing any more. It was even suggested that my choices of preamp (I own and trialled; Fishman Plat Pro, NuX MLD, Sansamp, BBE Acoustimax) was limiting and I should go to Helix and that my KZ10's were budget and a decent set of headphones would fix it. This btw was the final straw as I knew I could listen to various sound sources and get great clarity, yet the band bass mix was just buzzy/mushy/shyte... several hundred pounds was not going to fix this as we weren't discussing nuances of bass/mid levels or 2db peaks at XYZ frequency, it was a compressed mush. We shall see how we progress from here. I'm going to request ALL compression be taken off my aux mix and I'll deal with volume/dynamics via my Behringer vol control.
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    I 'think' I've made a bit of progress re. my mushy, overdriven, compressed, boxy tone via wired IEM. I've continued to have massive issues with my bass sounding like it was an Amstrad/Binatone POS from the 70's. So much so that I spat my dummy out and basically told the main man in our band (owns the PA, pushing the IEM) that he could stick the IEM in another orifice and I was going back to backline. We'd had a 20 minute discussion at the gig re my IE sound (FOH was fine) and I was being told it was unrealistic to expect the bass to sound as good IE as it would in front of a cab and that you have a compromise to make because IE have tiny drivers 'v' bass cabs and spl. However, all I wanted was to have a bass sound that had clarity and definition as you'd expect listening to any sound source (CD/phone/Hi-Fi). I even tried the drummers headphones (closed back not IE) and they sounded EXACTLY the same. On having my hissy fit, he went back to the desk and hey presto... 50-75% improvement! He said he'd tweaked the compression attack on the aux send and it wasn't as hard an attack. I've yet to get to the bottom of why I need any kind of compression on my aux send as I'm not putting the (acoustic) drums through, so other than a bit of guitar, vocals and my bass, I'm keeping my levels at the volume of the drums that are picked up via vocal mics and fed into ears. Is there a specific / good setting I should use on the IEM, should I be just turning it off (bass is compressed for FOH)? Any other comments welcome.
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    Most basses/bassists need a degree of relief (bow) in the neck to allow the string to vibrate without buzzing, playing with a light touch you can get away with less relief. Fretting the bass around the 5-8th fret if you have too much relief shouldn't put it out of tune any more than fretting from 8-12. If you've got it working now that's the main thing.
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    I've never encountered intonation issues on a neck that actually go away as you go up the neck. If it was out at the 5-8th I'd expected it to get progressively worse as you went further up the neck!
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    Glad you asked, as it has clarified for me also.
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    You could buy a cheap amp and not like the DI sound... If you aren't using the amp as an amp, I'd certainly be looking at a preamp/DI pedal rather than an amp which you will be paying more for as you are paying for the power section.
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    £35 new but often found used for sale. https://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_vtone_bass_bdi21_analog_modeling_preamp.htm?glp=1
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    Cheap as chips Behringer version of the Sansamp will do a great job at not a lot of money.
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    Line 6 G50 no colouration that I'm concerned about. Zero drop out issues... till about a year ago! I believe it is the congested 2.4 frequency, compounded by the band's use of a router now. I've gone over to a cheapie 5.2 system and no probs with drop outs but only weeks into it's use.
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    Done
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    However, if we ALL say we are going to take matters into our hands...
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