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[quote name='Musky' post='400391' date='Feb 4 2009, 08:35 PM']It's all rather moot anyway - the issue came up over the B150's use of a valve in the pre-amp. It's not a valve amp so it's 'SS watts' that'll be heard. [/quote] Valid point, I was simply responding to the statement that watt A is louder than watt B. Just as Alex would dive in (rightly so) and nip in the bud any misconception that certain speakers can defy the laws of physics, I think 'facts' need to be just that, otherwise we just perpetrate the same myths time and again. I've known SS amps of certain wattages 'appear' louder than other SS amps either by dint of the manufacturer (cough... TE) manipulating the gains to make them seem to have masses of volume at low settings and others (cough... GK) with things like boost stages and though I can't 'prove' it, some manufactures appear to just make figures up.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='400344' date='Feb 4 2009, 07:45 PM']A valve watt is no more powerful than a solidstate watt but it IS louder! No more dBs SPL will result but it'll peak higher on a VU meter (though not on a peak level meter) and it'll sound louder to our ears. Alex[/quote] Surely that is a contradiction Alex? You of all people surely accept that the measurement of a watt is a scientific equation; Hence a valve watt can be no different to a tranny watt... yes? We have both stated that it may appear louder due to the characteristics of valve distortion etc but please let's not blur the issue of valve watts and SS watts.

[quote name='josh3184' post='400243' date='Feb 4 2009, 05:58 PM']forgot to say, watt for watt, tube/valve amps are considered louder than solid state if I recall correctly- anyone wanna back me up on that? Memory is getting hazy with my old age [/quote] A watt is a watt... a valve watt is NOT louder than a tranny watt. However due to the characteristics of the tone of valves (i.e. distortion) it can 'appear' louder/fuller, though it is not in fact any louder.

[quote name='Lew-Bass' post='399925' date='Feb 4 2009, 01:13 PM']I don't mind it mate, aslong as the condition is very very good. That Hartke looks good [u]but I'd need cabs to go with it right[/u]?[/quote] Ah! You said 'amp' not amp and cabs/combo. You will get something in combo form for your budget but it will need to be used to get anything near powerful enough for your money.

A no-brainer really; for £180 you can get a 500watt Hartke amp that'll cover most gigs you're likely to encounter regardless of size. Whether the tone floats your boat is another matter but '£ for watt' it is about the best you can expect! <edit> Look here... the £180 price I quoted was an on-line price I found at the time this thread was active. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26831&hl=hartke+lh500"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...hl=hartke+lh500[/url]

[quote name='MacDaddy' post='399597' date='Feb 4 2009, 12:03 AM'][/quote] I know... doesn't the stupid s*d know you should never mix driver sizes and as for horizontal dispersion!

[quote name='josh3184' post='399507' date='Feb 3 2009, 10:34 PM']sorry man, glad you managed to sell it in the end- you did it quicker than I managed![/quote] Isn't this still listed on ebay till the 9th? Or am I confused by all of the threads!

[quote name='benwhiteuk' post='398154' date='Feb 2 2009, 06:05 PM']Looks interesting. I don't have a clule about Fenders but I'm keeping an eye on this thread cos it'll be interesting to find out what this is. What are the reasons that it could not be the JV00001?[/quote] If it is #1 of the whole JV series it would be a very collectable (expensive) instrument. However... If it's getting gigged in a PF trib band in old blighty I'd love to hear the story of how it got to where it is. FWIW I reckon it's a fake. It looks FAR too clean to be that instrument; the tuners look modern and shiny, the headstock just looks like it has a lack of the patina/colour that the genuine old JV's have (regardless of whether it has been in a sealed box under the bed) dare I say the headstock looks anemic, though I accept that lighting can play tricks. Lastly; I may be a Geordie but even I wouldn't clag a NUFC sticker on the headstock of the oldest/first JV instrument produced... FAKE!

Shortscale, cherry-red (a la Gibson SG), no name Jazz copy; bought to hone my skills and impress the 'laydees'... still not working to this day!

[quote name='markytbass' post='396652' date='Feb 1 2009, 10:37 AM']I found another (this time not American D'oh ) [url="http://www.bassexchange.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=28&products_id=1314"]http://www.bassexchange.com/catalog/produc...roducts_id=1314[/url] athough its been sold[/quote] Yep that one is just a 90's USA fender re-issue, nothing to do with Squier or JV; I had one not so long back (J Retro fitted).

[quote name='markytbass' post='396374' date='Jan 31 2009, 07:56 PM']Don't think there is owt wrong with the stack pots, just google it and there's quite a few including an oly white one for sale somewhere. The price is a bit on the steep side, even if it does come with a hard case. Here about 1/3 of the way down [url="http://webcorral.com/store/index.html"]http://webcorral.com/store/index.html[/url][/quote] [quote name='Musky' post='396440' date='Jan 31 2009, 08:56 PM']The one on that page is a different thing altogether though - an american reissue. The JV's were the original Squier series and weren't reissues as such, even though they were pretty close. But I'm pretty certain they didn't ever come with stack pots.[/quote] Like Musky and I have said, there is no such thing as a stack-knob JV Squier bass as per the early 61 Jazz bass. All JV Jazz basses would have had the v/v/t set up, there was no range of options/reissues. Hence the bass this guy is selling isn't all original and as such the price is steep... wtf am I talking about! The price is steep FULL STOP. <edit> Just had a look at his other pics. So the bass is actually a Fender Japan non-export model. So when is a Squier not a Squier... when it's a Fender.

[quote name='Rayman' post='396238' date='Jan 31 2009, 04:41 PM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1980s-FENDER-JAPAN-JB62-115-JV-serial-JAZZ-BASS-MIJ_W0QQitemZ170291676415QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item170291676415&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1980s-FENDER-JAPAN-J...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url] A nice bass I'm sure, but [i]2 grand???[/i] Give over.[/quote] Probably worth sticking stuff like this in the eBay section! I do agree that he is having a laugh re. value, especially as I can't ever recall the JV basses having the 61/62 stack-kn*b control plate, so that bit ain't original!

[quote name='gingerfish' post='396172' date='Jan 31 2009, 02:59 PM']No I can garantee it aint that one [/quote] Just saw your other post... so I realised it wasn't that one.

I wonder if it was the SN that was selling in Reverb recently for something silly like £399.