warwickhunt

[quote name='TimR' post='370459' date='Jan 4 2009, 10:44 PM']All this talk of 15" and 10" and power into each driver is all very well. These are 'nominal' impedances and power ratings. Using ohms law and DC is OK but in reality the impedance of each speaker varies at different frequencies. The impedance of the 10" is unlikely to be the same as the impedance of the 15" for any given frequency so the power distribution will be much more complex than just saying 225watts and 4x56.25watts. But all they give us is nominal figures so fag packet drawings and schoolboy physics are the way to go, and are ok if all you are interested in is whether your speakers or amp will blow first. E.G. say the 10"s were 25ohms at 40hz and the 15" was 15ohms at 40 Hz, what happens to the power distribution then? How much of that amp power is going to get used at 40Hz and where will it go? Since the 15" is more likely to have a lower impedance for a given frequency than the 10s, a good deal of your power is likely to go in the direction of the 15". That's just electrically, never mind what then happens acoustically. This is why mixing drivers doesn't always sound good, even 2x15" from different manufacturers. Regardless of what you think the specs say, your ears are your friend.[/quote] Well hello and welcome Tim! Your stand on 'technical' V's 'real life' is duly noted and you might find that you even have allies when it comes to NOT mixing drivers but where do you stand on 'vintage bass' V's 'just a load of old tat'?

[quote name='0175westwood29' post='370092' date='Jan 4 2009, 05:04 PM']yeh thats a thing im really not wanting to even think bout, 8 ohm cabs it is[/quote] Good choice.

[quote name='0175westwood29' post='370064' date='Jan 4 2009, 04:42 PM']is running at 2 ohms bad for an amp?, but yeh that was my problem your either not getting the full output or killing 2 quite pricey cabs![/quote] There aren't many bass amps designed to run @ 2 ohms and even the ones that can it doesn't pay to run them hard @ 2 ohms for too long (even H&K told me that when I contacted them about running my 600 @ 2 ohms). Believe me unless the amp manufacturer recommends it (which will be displayed on the rear of the amp) then you don't want to even consider plugging a pair of 4ohm cabs (2 ohm load) into 'most' amps. 'IF' your amp can do a 2ohm load, you won't necessarily kill a pair of cabs if they run your amp down to 2 ohms, even if the power handling of your cabs looks like it is exceeded by the amps output. The biggest problem with buying a pair of 4 ohm cabs around an amp that 'can/will' run @ 2 ohms is that if you ever decide to change amps or borrow someone else's amp, then their amp may not do 2 ohms (which is the load an amp would see if your cabs were 4 ohms each) and you couldn't then use your two 4 ohm cabs. I speak from bitter experience on this one!

[quote name='0175westwood29' post='369999' date='Jan 4 2009, 03:28 PM']thanks man im looking at it now. may work im waiting for a few ppl to get bk to me. yeh im thinking 8 ohm cabs now the 210 h n k cabs are just weirdly confusing. you shed any light on this "warickhunt"? you seen to at one point at least owned some hughe cabs, what the best combo, thet say that you can put the 115(8ohm) with the 210(4/16) help me out here does that give you 2 possibly loading of 8 and 3 something ohms?[/quote] I've owned plenty of cabs and among them H&K cabs but not this 210 with switchable ohmage, which tbh looks a bit of a dogs dinner; 4 ohms great as a stand alone rehearsal cab, 16 ohms... shyte if you are mixing it with other cabs for a gig rig! 'IF' you are going to mix those particular cabs up for a rig I reckon you're potentially going to get all sorts of odd levels from each cab due to it's ohmage and handling characteristics. It may work fine but I'd not be buying that particular set-up blind in a month of Sundays and that's before we even start getting involved in mixing your driver sizes without appropriate crossovers etc. Whilst on the subject, the H&K 600 has the potential to split the signal and bi-amp your rig but you need a separate power amp! Further to your choices for cabs; I'd be wary of going the route you've outlined and I personally think that even a pair of those 2x10 cabs (4/16ohms) would be a mistake, as you'd be running at 2ohms or 8 ohms using the pair. In essence you'd be running your amp at 2 ohms (H&K will do that and put out something like a stated 1010watts) which in theory is good but not the best condition to run an amp for longevity OR you'd be running at 8ohms and be getting 400w out of your H&K600... not what you wanted really! Don't ditch the idea of a H&K amp (though there are loads of alternatives if you want 500w+ and 2 channels) but you'd be far better off looking at a pair of 8ohm cabs with a fixed speaker size in each (ie all 10's, 12's or 15's NOT some 10's 12's and/or 15's mixed). There are loads of threads on here as to why this is best and it's not to say that it can't work but I always think back to when I tried to figure out how I could EQ my amp sending a full range signal to different size drivers in separate cabinets (a 4x10 and a 1x15), when cab A could do with a bit more top end whilst cab B sounded like it needed less but cab B could do with more bottom end which cab A didn't need (does that make sense?).

[quote name='bassbluestew' post='369986' date='Jan 4 2009, 03:10 PM']I recently got some, well two, Planet Waves Pro cables ( £18 for 10ft so not dead cheap ) and they keep falling out of my basses. I've used loads of different leads over the past 30 years and never had this problem before. It happens on all three of my basses, and only with these leads, no others. I contacted Planet Waves who have suggested I return them for "evaluation and possible replacement". Stewart[/quote] [quote name='lemmywinks' post='369990' date='Jan 4 2009, 03:15 PM']That's weird, i use planet waves cables too and found them the snuggest fit in all of my basses! Got mine ages ago though so they might be different now[/quote] Their banana plug style jack can be hitty/missy with some sockets; overly tight to the point where they won't go into one of my basses and another fits BUT the spring loading action on the jack forces the jack back out after a while. I don't use em any more.

[quote name='martthebass' post='369969' date='Jan 4 2009, 02:46 PM']£650 heh. Are prices looking up?[/quote] After fees £600 (if paid by paypal)... is that better or worse than 2008? I've just watched a Warwick Streamer with a smashed headstock go for £418, which is about what a perfect condition bass was worth last year! Based upon what I've noted in the last month or two I'd say that Warwick prices have turned the corner (hopefully) so I'd bet that MM will be going the same way.

On eBay (£220 BIN)... Carvin amp; 500w @ 4ohm amp that can if need be do 800w @ 2ohm which gives you maximum flexibility when buying cabs (thought I'd still go for a pair of 8ohm cabs every time). [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Carvin-B800-bass-head-800-Watt_W0QQitemZ110333016997QQihZ001QQcategoryZ58719QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Carvin-B800-bass-hea...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='369859' date='Jan 4 2009, 12:47 PM'][b]He bought it from tune_o_matic at the end of August[/b], so he probably did pay that much for it...[/quote] In that case I take back what I said I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. I should have realised that the pics look very much like 'ToM' images, I take it he just reused images from the original sale! Pure supposition and speculation BUT... I wonder whether this is another 'ToM' customer who has bought something that isn't quite what it at first appeared?

[quote name='obbm' post='369817' date='Jan 4 2009, 11:55 AM']I tend to use Neutrik (because they are a well known brand) and get them from the Neutrik dealer from whom I used to buy miles of cable and thousands of connectors for building TV and radio studios and outside broadcast units. Amphenol have been supplying connectors to equipment manufacturers for donkey's years. They make a very compact and reasonable priced right-angle jack which I have been considering supplying. I bought some right-angle stereo plugs to evaluate and they seem very robust. You can get them from [url="http://uk.farnell.com/amphenol/acpm-rb/plug-6-35mm-jack-90deg-2pole/dp/1349048"]Farnell[/url]. Switchcraft are very good but more expensive than Neutrik.[/quote] Prior to getting cables supplied from your good self I used to make my cables up using either Switchcraft (which I always use to replace the chocolate jack sockets supplied in Warwick basses ) or Neutrik jacks as they were robust enough to stand up to years of gigging rigours which many inferior plugs couldn't; in fact I have some plugs that are on their 3rd piece of cable! I have more cable failure than plug failure issues but I know that you use quality cable as well which can to be the downfall of the home lead maker.

Which 'past' year did he buy it? TBH 3000 Euro a year or two back would have been less than £2k, which if that is totally original and mint (as it seems), then as a collector's piece it might have been well worth that! Other than from a certain eBay luminary over in the States (two-gnomed-attic) I don't think I've ever seen one as clean and 'if' it were as straight as it looks then I know who I'd rather buy from. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150317615946&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D150317615946%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...y0%3D%26fvi%3D1[/url]

Who's Steve Grindrod (fnarr sounds a bit rude).

[quote name='obbm' post='369795' date='Jan 4 2009, 11:31 AM']Also Amphenol are very good.[/quote] Not come across those before. Google wasn't massively helpful at establishing a point of sale for 1/4 jack connectors, where do you normally get them?

IMHO Switchcraft are as good as Neutrik and I'd be happy with either of those.

[quote name='bremen' post='369513' date='Jan 3 2009, 07:20 PM']That's just *stupid*. He clearly can't reach the lowest 'instrument' with his right hand...and that's only a 5-neck![/quote] Maybe, but he's gigged that guitar and various other multi-necks for years; mind he rarely does more than one song before he's back to a 'normal' guitar. However, when you have his collection you are a bit spoilt for choice.

Not sure if this has been flagged up before but I came by it via another forum and it's particularly 'funky' half way through... honest. [url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DANkec2NY4w"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DANkec2NY4w[/url]

Basschat calling Mr Nielsen...

Hardly pointless! It's good to hear when folks are happy with their lot.

[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='369393' date='Jan 3 2009, 05:18 PM']Page is now deleted or otherwise unavailable. For those still looking for Gene Simmons product, you might want to try this: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KISS-GENE-SIMMONS-CELEBRIDUCK-RUBBER-DUCK-TOY-70s-ROCK_W0QQitemZ330281262212QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Music_Music_Memorabilia_LE"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KISS-GENE-SIMMONS-CE..._Memorabilia_LE[/url][/quote] Now that's odd as the sale ran to the end and went for £3600! <edit for more info> Whoever wanted it wanted it bad as they placed 9 further bids in excess of their £3600 bid... "Cetera"!

Looking at the bidding it'll be interesting to see how this one eventually pans out.

[quote name='OldGit' post='368956' date='Jan 2 2009, 11:29 PM']Hey Warwickhunt, Thanks for the concern but it's no real problem for me to make a house call to check it out .... (save for the fact that Mrs OldGit is on call and in work all weekend) Nowhere is that far in Cardiff, it's not a huge place, and meeting a fellow bass person in the area is always helpful for my depping network ....[/quote] Fair does, just thought it might make more sense waiting to see what happened with the bidding but as you say if it is on the doorstep and would be beneficial...

[quote name='elsharko' post='368410' date='Jan 2 2009, 12:54 PM']Am I the only person in the world who used ebid? [/quote] I have an ebid account but not much intention of using it... as your other thread says; 'a bit shabby'!