warwickhunt

Is a 12 string guitar still just a guitar, all be it a bit jangly? 8 & 12 string basses are no different, it isn't like we are talking 8 & 12 string extended range instruments where every string is tuned to a 4th of the preceding string.

You'd struggle to justify the original £258.22 price tag!

A bit of extra mids or top end on your amp; bass through an octave pedal (ideally adding octaves up NOT down) and a chorus pedal... possibly a little bit of distortion from a pedal. You have the beginnings of a sound approximating Tom's tone. He uses all sorts of splitters and signals running through guitar and bass amps (Orange valve/tube amps) but you start to go down a special kind of rabbit hole if you chase that rabbit.

I'd not buy new again but I'd certainly push the boat out past £2k if it was something I really wanted... as of today the only bass that could be would be a 12 string bass!

Dear me, as easy as that! I thought it was some strange bitsa.

Watching the video again, I actually think the pup is a split jobbie rather than a J.

Cheap Trick performed at Reading in 79 and Tom played this bass but I wondered if anyone knew what model it was? It is vaguely J shaped, has a single pup and a J style bell plate but it is a puzzle. Sorry for that bad pic but it was the best capture from some live youtube footage.

...and that is a 'used' 2nd hand bass!

I have the album that ITM is on but the rest is hardly memorable. However back in the day, I did enjoy covering that track.

@12stringbassist will be along shortly. I've got more than a passing appreciation of him as I'm in a Cheap Trick tribute. http://www.cheattrick.co.uk/

Dear God that has made matters worse! a) they've been doing this for years and I've never seen/heard of it. b) not only would it mess with your mind which tuner to reach for but... c) the B string tuner would work in reverse (or is it geared in reverse... please tell me it is). LOL

Every day is a school day. Today I learned that Fodera are capable of making something simple and straightforward more complicated than it needs to be! Other opinions are available.

So you're not questioning if it is a genuine Fodera? Is it really just me then?

Help me out here folks my head is done in! I can't believe you'd chop back/forwards with the tuners like that, yet some of you are telling me it is genuine?

Ahhh but... That image is from the site that the seller has linked to and it is NOT the Fodera site! Use a search engine and you'll be directed to the Fodera site that is not hosted by 'SmugMug'!

Seriously? Why would you extend the B string but then revert back to the E string being shorter? If the science says a longer string has a better fundamental, then surely that applies to the E string as well?

Indeed!

You literally can't understand how a faker could get something SOOOOOOO wrong but my head started to hurt and wonder whether this was a genuine clever idea... that my brain just couldn't register. For sale for a paltry sum of 7200 euro. https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/913145782937721?media_id=3&ref=share_attachment

I 'think' many of us read the OP comments and approached this from the stance of that he had overpaid and that he thought he had bought a genuine Ray. When in fact it is likely the OP bagged a £50 bargain and maybe secretly hoped it was genuine and he would get affirmation that its value was x20 more.

If you paid good money (market value) for a USA Musicman Stingray, you have been conned. If you bought at low cost, a bass that was meant to be 'like' a USA Musicman Stingray, then you have something that looks a bit like one. It's fake btw!

I had to put some of my parent's stuff through a local auction so I decided to watch what sort of prices stuff went for (most of these auctions can now be watched/bid online). I was frankly amazed to see 'tat'/junk going for daft prices. I realise that you could argue that there could well be hidden treasure among it... there wasn't, it was JUNK. To add to that I watched countless individual items go through which I was familiar with the prices (mountain bikes, hi-fi gear etc) and it was staggering! Rusted junk bikes (catalogue/Halfords cheapies) with missing parts were selling for way more than you could test ride and buy on the Marketplace and this wasn't during the height of Covid when you couldn't find a bike for sale anywhere. As has been said, bidding fever kicks in and some folk must just bid on stuff because it seems a bargain... it isn't when you add the buyers premium of approx 30% on top of the hammer price.

Will someone PLEASE let him know you can achieve all of that shyte he was playing on a regular guitar!

Before you open it up to check the valves, have you tried using the amp with 1 cab? It is possible to have your speaker cables wired out of phase with each other, so adding the 2nd cab can be detrimental to the sound. Do your cabs/leads work 100% with a different amp? Is it possible to try the amp with different cabs/leads? Is the cab new from a shop? If so take it back and ask to plug back into their cabs, that'll eliminate possible dodgy valves. I'm fairly confident about stuff under the bonnet so I'd be happy to take the top off and reseat the valves but appreciate that others might be happier leaving to others... it comes back to how easy it is to return it to the seller. <edit> Just reread your first post and I assume these are the cabs that you trialled it with initially! However... are they the cables you got with it? Might still be worth trying with other cabs/cables to be sure it is the amp at fault.

First thought is that it is your cabs and/or leads. I'm assuming the other connections on the back are effects in/out? I'd disconnect them so that you just have bass > amp > cab(s). That leads us to your speaker cables; they look home made/mismatched, are you sure they are both wired the same? I'd try the amp into 1 cab first. Next thought based on the fact I've had one of these amps, are the preamp valves seated correctly and one of them is not on it's last legs? It could be when being transported or stored in the cold that a valve is not 100% OK.