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re. the OP comments I've considered for a while that I used to gig 25 years ago with 150 - 200 watts and I had no problems whereas now most of us recommend 300-500watts to the various posters asking questions about power required for various band situations. I don't think we 'need' more power these days, I just think that higher power amps are cheaper to produce now, are readily available and are the norm in the marketplace! I don't think we've consciously needed or wanted more power (though headroom is desirable) but we've just been handed it on a plate

[quote name='StevieC' post='199075' date='May 14 2008, 09:31 PM']It may not been in the too distant future especially if I change cabs So this 'shootout' had mixed blessings then, did it? Lol Or were you planning on changing anyway? For what it's worth, if you like the natural sound of your bass(es) you should have a look at the Phil Jones gear.[/quote] No the gear change was already in progress I just wanted to hear a few 'small' cab solutions too see exactly how much of a compromise I'd be making going from a 6x10 down to a couple of 12's or a brace of 10's. I'm not doing the full-on '[b]ROCK[/b]' band thing (I don't think) in the future so a 2100watt 6x10 is a bit overkill for an electro/acoustic duo/trio with the potential use of an EUB It 'will' be a compromise but I've got to accept I'm not going to need gob loads of volume and internal organ emulsification tone I'm just seriously on the fence with the PJ gear it just looks too... small/dinky/odd. I'm not dismissing it out of hand but I just have the feeling that it may be too clinical for my tastes

[quote name='Ham fisted Bass' post='199051' date='May 14 2008, 09:03 PM']The whole event looked like fun - good idea. [/quote] It was but 3 hours just flew by and we didn't get the chance to do everything... or did we [quote name='StevieC' post='199058' date='May 14 2008, 09:14 PM']Aye, Let me know next time you do one of these and I'll bring my Phil Jones stuff along with me. It sounded like good crack as well as a unique chance to try out some quality gear! Steve[/quote] Will do Steve but it was a bit of a rush job! It may not been in the too distant future especially if I change cabs

[quote name='voxpop' post='198886' date='May 14 2008, 05:00 PM']Hi Guys, did anyone try or like the Glock head, I have the Heart rock and wondered what you thought of the Art. It was on my short list of gear to try but couldn't find one in the UK. Thanks.[/quote] [quote name='ped' post='198896' date='May 14 2008, 05:11 PM']Also interested to hear how the Glock compared to the others, which cabs suited it best etc? Looks like brilliant fun, certainly better than your average Tuesday. Cheers for the pics ped[/quote] The Glock had literally arrived that afternoon and we were 1/2 way through the sampling before I got around to soldering up an XLR to Speak-on lead, so it didn't get a thorough test BUT it certainly seemed to shine when WoT put his fretless through it. We ran the amps on pretty much their mid/flat settings (contentious but for these purposes they were considered flat) and the Glock meant my expectations in the short time that we ran it (too many amps - not enough time). It appeared full without being flabby and had a clarity across the range that seemed to suit all of the cabs, which not all of the amps did. Not that there was a bad combination among them and as Robert said with a touch of EQing you could have brought most of the combinations within a gnat's chuff of each other with few exceptions. If I was forced to pick I'd say that the Glock partnered the Schroeder well but we'd be really nit-picking

[quote name='ste_m3' post='198699' date='May 14 2008, 01:20 PM']Ive found my schroeder to be miles "louder" than anything else ive played. and thats only the 1212, although its the R not the L verision, which apparently has more beef, but i cant vouch for that! Ive still got mixed opinions about the tech gear, ive got it in my head that its a bit weedy, with not even nearly any evidence to suggest so. just a weird subconcious assosiation![/quote] I'll try and add full thoughts this evening (and the lads will chip in) but the Tech is far from weedy! It has quite a flat response (measured with 3 sets of ears rather than any scientific proof) and desperately cried out to be fed watts It seemed to come into its own the more power it was given.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='198683' date='May 14 2008, 01:01 PM']And this is where anecdotal evidence causes serious misinformation. Alex[/quote] I know where what you're saying here Alex (mid humps et al) but it was 'noticeably' different from both the 5.3 ohm Epi and the 5.3 ohm Tech and at various levels with a variety of amps! I would concede that the natural tone of the cab might account for some of the perceived volume increase (and nobody was more surprised than I) but it wasn't a subtle difference

[quote name='thinman' post='198369' date='May 13 2008, 11:19 PM']Still can't tell which one's you.[/quote] WoT had the camera, rslaing looks comfortable with a 6 string SEI and... I have hair Must say it was a blast but 3 hours just flew by Revelations... at least for me All basses should have LEDs My Tech cabs eats wattage Schoeders are cleverly designed and eat cabs EBS TD650's have a lot more tonal variation that I imagined 4ohms is 'significantly' different to 5.3ohms regardless of sensitivity WoT should never be let loose with round-wounds I'll get up tomorrow morning and have given this some serious thought. Cheers RL & MB My basses were an 88 Stage II with EMGs and an EB/MM Sterling with Nordstand

... wish I'd brushed my hair

[quote name='Charla' post='197402' date='May 12 2008, 07:12 PM']The Ampeg and an ABM 1 x 15 are posted in the Amp & Cabs threads, not a sniff, which is why I was thinking of modding the Ampeg. I was looking to buy one of the Epifani UL310's that were for sale on this site with the proceeds, they've gone now! It's a dilemma as i want something light weight but can't afford to have 4 cabs lying around the house! Thanks for the advice, I'll think long and hard before making a decision. Cheers Charla[/quote] I'm not saying it wouldn't work... happy accidents happen! Problem is when you come to sell your modded cab it'd 'probably' be worth about the same as a standard cab. Saying that you 'might' recoup some money by selling your standard Ampeg drivers. Never an easy call but I'd still say selling your cabs as is (even at a reduced price) and buying something built and designed around a driver will still be the most cost effective.

[quote name='Charla' post='197320' date='May 12 2008, 05:15 PM']I have an Ampeg SVT 410HE and I'm thinking of replacing the speakers with Neodymium Drivers. Ampeg suggest Eminence speakers, but there's a choice of 4 choices; Deltalite II 2510 250W 10"; Basslite S2010 10"; Basslite CA2010; Basslite CH2010 10"? If I'm going to spend over £200 on speakers I want to make sure I get the right ones!! Cheers Charla[/quote] You've no idea how this might affect the tone! I doubt very much whether it'd sound like your old cab but lighter in weight. Not saying it will be worse but it will almost certainly sound different. You 'might' be better off selling the Ampeg and buying a Neo equipped cab, at least you'll be able to try before you buy Just my thoughts.

[quote name='geilerbass' post='196641' date='May 11 2008, 07:25 PM']I think the NT Vampyre is up with the Dolphin and Infinity in terms of price - or am I getting confused here... [/quote] No, you are correct. I'm not 'that' familiar with the more unusual members of the Warwick stable and just plain forgot that one

[quote name='NickSpector' post='196608' date='May 11 2008, 06:09 PM']I thought the Streamer STage 1 & 2 and the Thumb neck throughs were the daddys? They certainly sting the wallet accordingly.....[/quote] TBH of the 'off-the-shelf' models the Dolphin and Infinity (excepting the Stryker & Buzzard which are hardly 'off the shelf' models) are the most expensive I believe. You are right though that the Thumb & Stage II follow these up.

[quote name='Huge Hands' post='196486' date='May 11 2008, 12:48 PM']Yup. Let me check into it at work tomorrow before I make a fool of myself, unless Mr Hunt's solution beats me to it![/quote] Not trying to steal your thunder HH. I just suggested a local (to WoT and I) retailer that specialise in fixings and fastenings, they do all sorts of self tappers and bolt fastenings so I suggest he try them

[quote name='The Burpster' post='196436' date='May 11 2008, 11:38 AM']It probably involves cloaks secret handshakes and mumbling ancient runes..... Or maybe just lederhosen a good ole thigh slapping and plenty of steins of zee best German lager.... You only find out when you buy one... Apparently.... [/quote] I think you know a little too much for one not initiated