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36 minutes ago, taunton-hobbit said:

How the heck did you gig with a Mellotron ?  They are huge, heavy, temperamental things ...............

 

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Ha.. a great question sir.  It was a bloody nightmare with the entire band lifting shoving, sweating, cursing, you name it. Funny thing is it always sounded ok...I cant remember the musician having to tinker too much, but yes the good old days really.. where you had to work for everything. Kids today got it way too easy now....he said. But I loved it back then, everything was organic, real if you like. Real kit, real gear.

As some of the above really, not so much band break up .. more of the "your joking right"?.  Decades ago was in a very good prog rock outfit.....Melotrone, rotos, two guitards..long hair all over the place...gnarly old school JBL, Altec, EV PA, desk etc ... tour bus and then one night after a gig I get the message that those running the show wanted 85 quid from each band member for more PA. This was 1980 and that was a lot of dosh.  We'd done some demos but they werent good enough so I said, surely better to pay for more demos..."Nope, more PA is gonna make us".  From then on it was never gonna work and I left....I was pretty sad cause live we were very good...just needed more time in the studio. 

We were Marillion before they were even a band and our tunes were more melodic and more interesting in my opinion... but hey there you go, and without sounding to smug, six months later they broke up.

Couldnt disagree more with everything said negatively about Brown Sugar, and that Jagger, who dont forget was one of the greatest proponents of the Blues, but who has become a puppet of the establishment, is now buckling under the woke political pressure too is appalling, silly man.  What, so no one is gonna look at any Picasso anymore? etc etc.

Brown Sugar is a stunningly original piece of well written hard hitting rock and the lyrics tell a story. Thats it they tell a story. We have become so caked in this modern idea that nobodys feelings are to be hurt by anything that anyone says that we have become blind to what makes us human.. ie Flawed. Flawed and endlessly capable of all sorts of healthy crap. Yet the modern narrative is to try to pretend that we are not like that, that we must be fluffy, safe, gentle, and ultimately.......dead. 

Nice old thread this. We've all cited our famous heroes but to be honest there was a guy back in the very early 80's who played in our local area, probably the smoothest bassist Ive ever heard/seen and he's still at it as far as I know.....Guy had a huge influence on me. Some people are born to play a certain instrument and he was a heck of a melodic player, one of those that made it look like he wasnt even trying. Funny thing was I eventually replaced him in a pretty good show band but I was never as good... And I knew it. 

Agree with OP and its that very plain C&A JD look that is important. There look is just as important as The Beatles look as well as the overal tone and sound.

Bernard and Boz.                                                                                            

Its all so serious and dull. Click on Bucks Fizz and be amazed. Bright and breezy, superbly written and just fun....Guess modern music reflects modern society .

When AI can write an original piece on par with any of the Bach cello suites or, as bitingly original as say Cavatina from The Deer Hunter, then just maybe that will be the moment humanities creative force will be over. What a miserable thought.

Ah takes me back...What kind of tunes?

Totally agree with you, the dep played some notes so should be paid.

Good grief what a to do. In the old days you turned up, you played you got paid, and if you didnt turn up you didnt get paid, and whether you drove 100 miles or 1/2 a mile everyone got the same.

I'm old so done a load of auditions. main thing the 'auditionee' forgets is... its also us auditioning ... THEM. Been to a few where half way thu I'll stop the band and politely say... sorry guys not for me and leave. They, as individual muisicians are no better than you...so if the singer, drummer or whatever is not up to snuff, I wont waste anymore of anybodys time... it's a good thing to remember.

In the past he would have been a very young prodigy on first chair in an orchestra somewhere playing the instrument of his choice...All I see here is someone whos talent is completely wasted on bass....I mean its just bass right? and always will be. Bass.

7 hours ago, dave_bass5 said:

American Pie. Thankfully the short version 😬

Love it, it walks,chuggs and just takes off....I like clever, busy melodic bass lines.

Played Freebird in an original prog rock band back in the late 70's. Our stuff was pretty good but I would wait all evening for that double guitar solo to get going....Our two guitarists nailed the speed and feel perfectly....kinda miss it.

U do know RS is marketed at 12 year olds.? Kind of obvious. I can name a good handful of schooled American drummers that can smoke that entire list. Off the top of my head Gregg Bisonnette...He can play and sound like any other drummer and has played with everyone... but hes oldish and RS have probably never heard of him.

Could never get Chics Everybody Dance.. Rythmn Stick no probs, but EB Dance....nope. It was never often Id have a band leader constantly looking in my direction...

Agree with the OP. You had to be there as a teen to understand what an original entity he and his music was. Unlike today his image and sound was utterly original and in some way futuristic almost. Its also important to know too that it was all put together by the Chinny Chap guys, the tunes, the sound even the image, everything...But as for Gadd as a person without the Glitter outfit? ....evil beyond words.

Just saying I got a dirty grt red warning for a heck of a lot less than Im reading above...just sayin.

Anyway. Which ever way you swing...Sitting down ain't R&R cause R&R is the domain of the young and beautiful who look great jumping about wide legged and pouty. When I'm on stage Im just a craggy old bloke playing what ever pops up on the pad....totally different thing so sat, or stood, it probably matters not a jot either way.

65 thru 76. Recorder @ Primary school, Fiddle in Middle School orchestra.. (first chair no less... haha) then relentless study @ High School cause apparently I... "had something"...but my old pensioner tutor was dusty, fussy and hard work, no wonder I went off the rails.. 

I'll leave the hate for the politicians but Ive never been drawn to any other bass other than P basses and Rays, tried Jazzes once...nope.....A bass has to hang comfortably on the strap and sit well, and they do..plu they both sound solid.

Thats it then, I'm sunk without trace. CV 70's P bass wearing 20 yr old 'Dodo' dead chromes.....said nobody in 43 yrs of playing...haha. There's way too much over thinking here of something that at the end of the day is not an issue to anyone really.

Lets keep this thread tasteful, and decent, I find it neither when Jaco is brought into the yadda yadda. I mean to all of the above....who are you all?.. more famous and relevant then JP?..I doubt it very much. He came up with a style on "four strings", cause he couldnt get his hands on five, that everyone today is influenced by....even the ones who say they're not.

1 hour ago, Baloney Balderdash said:

There is more to life than partying, and certainly to music as well.

Sure is. I spent my playing life entertaining people in clubs, shows, TV etc. There's plenty for all.

S'funny these threads always end up going one way don't they... A sense that if u play five you are superior in some way to us lowly operators stuck in four banger land. It matters not a jot to me but its really noticeable.... not sure what to make of it really.