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Way I see it is...some people can pull it off..others most certainly cannot.  Some bands are totally of their time. They were what they were because when they were new they epitomised the youth scene of the time and its that young image that made them what they were (ok a right mouthful), I know what Im trying to say.

Having said that u have to hand it to Jagger and Co.  How Mick does it is a mystery..He's still the greatest frontman in the entire pop business but do I wanna go see them..nope. 

Same with the Pistols. They blew my mind bk in 77, but tubby old geezers doing that stuff now, not for me.  But yes, nostalgia, we all love it, long may it last.

Sorry to hear this. Broke up with long term partner four years ago and I still haven't got to over it, and yes like you I didnt want to go near the bass at all, ...however one day early last yr I suddenly had the urge to play again.....The mind wants to heal itself and it does so in tiny increments, even more so when there is a creative neccessity. Your time will come when your ready, it really will.

Love that Madman clip. The crowd just sat quietly, completely amazed at what their hearing and seeing. And yes they were a great band indeed...and its easy to forget just what a soulfull groovy performer Elton was in those early days

New Virgin ad aimed at all ages....Karma Chamelon. Anyway not surpised, old stuff is happier sounding and just sounds more interesting than todays dishwater. There I said it...took two pages.

The concept of better is really an endless circle. Ahead of you someone is better, behind you someone who's not. Flash doesnt much interested me, but if you can play...'One' with feel and delivery then you've got my attention.

Im not aiming this at BD specifically but Ive been in and out of guitar shops my entire life and yes its the same ole thing..total disinterest in the customer in the majority.

And that's the thing, and I cannot believe nobodys mentioned it.....Working in a guitar store has to be the most frustratingly miserable way to earn a living imaginable. Kids coming in twiddling this and that then leaving without buying anything, that constant cacaphony all day everyday. 

I almost like the bad customer attitude is part of the game...its part and parcel of the deal. 

Dealing with a guitar store is gonna be an unpleasant experience, its the way it is.  I almost applaud the staff for showing disinterest....probably keeps them sane at the end of the day.

Philly Freedom for eg. The tone, ghost notes and overall bass musicality...very tasty.

The soundscape on this is as fresh as a daisy, such a clean musical production....aah the good ole days...

Having a go and learning ur fav tunes by ear in ur bedroom is fun and amazing.... BUT as already mentioned it will only get you so far.... 

If you have any aspirations to becoming a professional musician then you need to get a book and learn to read notation. 'Resist' trying to play everything by ear and learn ur scales and appegios from the get go. I say all this from bitter experience.....ie, I took the long and painful way to get to a place where I could play anything and where the phone would ring on a regular basis.

By all means at the end of a gruelling study session click on a fav tune and have fun but not at the expense of learning properly.  

Just had a another listen....very nice indeed, and as I said earlier gotta be in the mood. Bit a box of chocolates...Im hearing Lee Ritenour, Wayne Shorter and a ton of other American mid 80's A listers. Kinda had the feeling no one is doing this stuff anymore. Its good to hear but it has all been done before, still hats off to them for keeping it alive.

Thats two of us then, and not a thing "ordinary" folk kinda talk about or understand. Ive had the same problem..started in my early late 30's ...Hypersensitive to just about anything and everything, big struggle living in the modern world..

The only plugs I can gaurantee work for me nowdays are those awful purple +30db industrial ones which pretty well block out all noise....albeit at the same time making me look like a martian or something...but it has to be done. Even practising my cello I have to wear some ER20's..

Luckily Ive managed to deal with the light thing by using prescription reactalights...but noisy kids, babies, motor transport, public places people in general....haha ..has me running to the nearest public library!

Nice bit of semi awkward fusion.....

Just now, Mykesbass said:

There is that. There is also the UK TV audience demographic with over 65s watching the most. 

The ads Im seeing are full of 20-30 somethings.. and even younger. 

Was trying to think of those two....ELO popped up the other night too....countless others I cant remember.  

Seems every other TV ad aimed across the demographic at the mo is using "old" music from the golden years. Why?....And yes Iam playing Devils Advocate here to some extent.

Difficult, progressive, modern jazz, basically a showcase vehicle for accomplished musos to show their brilliant reading chops.....I dig it but Ive gotta be in the mood...sadly not at the mo.

Just now, Baloney Balderdash said:

What the hell are you on about, you talk like you know me and my preferences

Remain calm. Your preference was to leave a sarcastic emoji after commenting on the Beatles intonation?...( I have never in my entire life heard anyone comment on The Beatles intonation before)  Thats good enough for me.

@Baloney Balderdash

I despair when I read posts like yours. This obsession with digitally perfect sound at the expense of good song writing.....hear it all the time. You can keep todays grey indestinct but perfectly rendered mush. Think I'll go put on some Sinatra and then some Motown even tho of course it's all over the place.......technically.

On 14/10/2023 at 17:36, Baloney Balderdash said:

That intonation... 

Yep real musicians playing real music together in a studio. Those little fluffs and whatnot are there for ever and I for one would never ever want them messed with or altered.

As Pete Waterman famously once said.  "I dont need Kylie to sing, she just has to look good and dance". He was right. This type of 'show time' entertainment has nothing to do with live musical performance and everything to do with the visual spectacle, just shove a disc in the machine and dance.

3 minutes ago, Beedster said:

No amount of bubble wrap stops them losing it

Yep, heard this many times before. Pretty sure in the all the years I used Hermes never lost a single package, tho had the odd return dumped in the recycle bin! I do wish they wouldnt do that.

Ive recently had to shift a lot of top end camera gear and cause Im cheap I use Evri, plus insurance works out well.. Seems the key is to use excessive bubble wrap and to encase the parcel in rolls and rolls of Fragile tape. My parcels are practically bullet proof. So far no pobs at all.  

1 minute ago, Barking Spiders said:

unless it's funk, soul or disco then they know it's the bass that carries the songs

Totally. But Ive never had anyone, band wise or audience wise complain at the racket my ole Squire P bass makes in that department. In other words it doesn't really matter what bass or gear you use.. it will always sound to them like bass.

I had to play Lil L a while back.. that grt envelope tone etc. I just played it up the neck and they all went wow!  Total BS but within the noise of a live performance and well played it sounded good on a lowly 200 quid Squire.

The opposite of GAS?  Ok a bit left field this.......The audience.  They could care less what ur playing as long as they hear some sort of bassy drone....even then Im not convinced they're to bothered. Ive heard bands with two guitarists strumming on the neck PU...keys, and other assorted stage noise...and the bassist might have well packed up and gone home. Whatever you play or fuss over will always bow to those instruments that the audience can hear without bothering to hear...if you get my meaning.  Bass is the last thing the audience care about.

5 minutes ago, ahpook said:

What's on the playlist at the mo ?

Haha. Well Sinatra as I mentioned (forget pop and rock, open the windows and crank Fly Me To The Moon, its bloody liberating)... Anyway, the usual, Autumn leaves, some Glenn Miller....any showtime stuff I can find, then finish off with Steely Dan and ABBA. That kinda satisfies the itch....it'll do.