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[quote name='LukeFRC' post='182280' date='Apr 21 2008, 09:26 PM']Oh and at church you cant make a big mistake![/quote] I heard that there's this Jesus guy and he's all about forgiving people and stuff... Brother got a guitar for his bday. I wanted one for my 14th but my parents wouldn't get us two guitars so they got me a bass instead. Thought it was rubbish until I got to uni. Started playing in a band. Loved it.

[quote name='Buzz' post='178283' date='Apr 16 2008, 08:28 PM']*Disclaimer, it's got cheap hardware, but you may find one thats really playable and put together well, in that case, you could upgrade bits.[/quote] Word. My brother got a Squire Strat Affinity about ten years ago. It's still the nicest guitar I've played in terms of pure playability and fun.

Great videos, thanks guys! That first one is ace!

[url="http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back"]http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-n...ns-strikes-back[/url] A lot of amusing grandstanding from the little guy. [i]Let me begin by stating, without equivocation, that I have no interest whatsoever in infringing upon any intellectual property belonging to Monster Cable. Indeed, the less my customers think my products resemble Monster's, in form or in function, the better.[/i]

Off the top of my head- Some points that I think are very important to this discussion: 1) It is now essentially possible to make professional-sounding records in your own home with only a powerful computer and $1000 of equipment. Even if you dispute this, considering the phenomenal leap forward that home recording has taken even in the last five years, in the next decade this will certainly be the case. 2) It is as easy to acquire intellectual property for free as it is to get it through legal means. The technology to distribute IP (illegally) will progress at a similar rate to the technology that tries to stop it. Given these two points, I can't see any value in the music industry whatsoever. In my (fairly radical) dreams, there will be no recogisable Recorded Music Industry in fifteen years, or if one does exist it will exist purely as a hype engine in cahoots with music magazines (which will also die) that tries to convince you to buy their music over an increasing pool of homemade talent. In fifteen years time people simply can't expect to make money from IP like music or books. It will just be too easy to get everything for free. We grew up in an age of the super-seller in everything from CDs to books to DVDs. In the future that simply will not be the case. Musicians will make music in their houses however they choose, some taking months over things, some bashing things out in days. They will make the songs available to the world. If the song is good, people will hear it, will recommend it, it'll appear on blogs and aggregators and the musician might become known. The live scene will be similar to today (since you can't sell 'product' like CD or MP3, but you can still sell 'performance') except that there won't be the current scrabbling-for-the-big-time A&R men nonsense. A crowd will see you support the band they went to see. If they like you they'll grab your music off the web on their wifi mobile phone. They'll maybe listen to it once or twice. If a track grabs them they'll add it to some future version of Twitter or whathaveyou where their mates might hear it. We'll see more 'singles' bands than 'albums' bands. Tastes will become more diverse. Whereas twenty years ago, you and your mates liked and knew almost exactly the same bands, today my friends know hundreds of bands I've never heard and vice versa. In the future you'll share three or four hundred bands with mates and like ten times that that you haven't got around to sharing. Covers bands will play an increasingly old selection of stuff (as in, not much more will be added to the pantheon of 'wedding songs' because people won't share a song on that scale. There might be global hits for a week or two, but the old radio-enforced days of having a song drilled into you 60 times will be over. For myself, I don't plan on making any money on the music I make. The music I make will be put up on the internet free to download. Same with the novels I will eventually write. I will always have to have a full-time job outside these pursuits because the next episteme is going to be that of the Amateur.* I can't wait. *A person who engages in a study, sport, or other activity for pleasure rather than for financial benefit or professional reasons. Not in the pejorative sense or beginner, but in the latinate 'Amo' sense - to be a lover of.

Madness. I'll go see what Maplin has on the way home...

Toughie. The Eraser had some great moments but was obviously a side-project kinda thing - not a classic album. I wasn't actually that amazed by the soundtrack to There will be Blood. I've not heard Bodysong so I can't comment. If I saw Thom on the street I'd be too afraid to talk to him. If I saw Johnny I wouldn't recognise him. In conclusion: Phil Selway.

There are a thousand reasons to listen to music, and there are a thousand reasons for making it. Y'all need to sit back and enjoy. Or fast forward to the bits you like. Or sing in the bath. Or chant at a match. Or catch some youtubes. Or drunkenly slur 'wooooooooooooah, baby baby! I wannaaaa knoooooorrrr, if yurrrl be mai gurrrrrrrl!' outside a cheese club at closing time. Not your thing? Fine. Someone out there is enjoying making it and someone is enjoying listening to it. Even reggae.* "Don't bore me with your little sidestep techniques / get to the beat, loosen up, it's The Streets." *Cheap shot. All apologies.

I liked Bailey's comments best: “Still, there’s nothing outstanding about the bass itself; it’s a really nice fretless Jazz Bass. What makes it important is what Jaco did with it, introducing his beautiful sound and musical voice to the world.” Word.

There seem to be about a million different sub types - techno, pro, turbo, 250hz etc etc etc. Are they all basically the same? My wrists take a lot of damage (computer job, hobbies are writing (more computer) bass guitar and drums, masturbation &c &c) so if these things help then I'm dead interested...

Good stuff! Radiohead were originally called 'On A Friday' for similar reasons....

[quote name='dlloyd' post='173481' date='Apr 9 2008, 10:19 PM'][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAGuc9DkoKE&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAGuc9DkoKE...feature=related[/url][/quote] I'm loving Colin's Ashdown rig and tasty P-bass. A lovely solid fundamental tone. Good stuff. Radiohead aren't for everyone. But I think they're super-fabbo.

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='172378' date='Apr 8 2008, 04:13 PM'][b]Black Sabbath Sex Pistols [/b] And here are some things that you definitley can't listen to: [b] Any band with a name invented to upset parents. [/b][/quote] *brain caught in paradoxxxxxxxxxxxghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh*

I, with many of my brothers, are waiting for a BBC-authored list of approved artists. We hear a song, we don't know whether to like it or not, we don't know if it's good or bad, we're confused and cold and alone. And itchy. BBC - which artists should I like?

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='172248' date='Apr 8 2008, 02:26 PM']I have them inflicted on me by others. Sadistic b*stards. But even before listening to their music, I knew I would hate Radiohead. A pretentious tosser like Yorke could never make music that I enjoy.[/quote] Quiet, you.

[quote name='LukeFRC' post='171966' date='Apr 8 2008, 12:31 AM']yes boycott all chinese stuff because of their awful human rights record, tibet and Sudan. boycott all american stuff because of the injustice of the IMF and World bank screwing the developing world through trade, illegal wars in the middle east and general policy of going around the world killing folk who disagree over the last 50 years. boycott all UK stuff for following US on the above, being a major player in the arms trade, failing to put anysort of commonwealth pressure on mugabe or china (for the above), or turkey, or israel...... don't ya just love our western-colonial cultural moral smugness?[/quote] I only eat what I can grow. My amp tree is ailing, but I got a bumper harvest of BB614s this year. Dig for victory!

[quote name='Bass_In_Yer_Face' post='171385' date='Apr 7 2008, 01:19 PM']Have to agree that the first three albums were great...when KID A came out it was just unlistenable rubbish. What's the last album like?....any good?[/quote] Given that: You liked OK Computer but thought Kid A was tosh I'd say: You'll be underwhelmed. It's got a lot of both albums in it. I love Colin Greenwood's playing on The National Anthem. And How To Disappear..... And Morning bell's great stuttering finish. Great bass playing.

Cool response, cheers!

[quote name='jakesbass' post='170899' date='Apr 6 2008, 07:46 PM']We have a long way to go to catch up with our American cousins when it comes to live performance. If you consider Letterman, American Idol, Jay Leno and just about any live studio performances you find on American TV they are leaps and bounds ahead of what we accept over here. Hence James Taylor putting in a good performance, BTW if anybody here has not heard the live JT Album from the early nineties then they should, to my ears one of the best live albums around. Some of our TV bands are pretty good eg Laurie Holloway but those American bands kick ass, groove, time, feel, play anything, read anything, attitude, badass muthas.[/quote] You see personally I'd sort of (dis)agree with you on this point. I agree that American musicianship is as a general rule tighter and more technically proficient than UK equivalent. I spent a few years in Japan and the situation is similar there - every band I saw out there (even indie rock) were as tight and as technical as the best band I've seen in the UK. Even third on the bill in a small town. My band were a shambolic bunch of ex-pats and we were often higher on the bill than we ought to be because of the novelty 'gaijin' factor. Interestingly the British spirit of throwing stuff together and not worrying if it's a bit shambolic is beginning to taker hold in America. Black Kids, for example, were an American band and they were by far the most musically shabby on Jools. There's a rash of new American bands who are doing that sort of thing. Where I disagree is the notion that this blanket quality musicianship is a good thing. There are a thousand different good reasons to make music, and a thousand different good reasons to listen to it. The reason I love a show like Jools is that you'll see a super-tight session player one minute, and then the next there'll be a group of chancers from wherever who've just recorded their first EP and don't know their way around the fretboard yet. Pro musicians on this board really like to watch the technical stuff, and that's great, but there are seventeen-year-olds out there who saw a band having fun and fluffing notes and thought 'I can do that!' who'll run down to Cash Converters and grab a guitar and just make whatever noise is in their head. It's the same reason I'm happy to see Pete Wentz playing stadium shows with a Squier (regardless of whether the insides are turbocharged). Kids in the audience can have that exact instrument (again, if his is upgraded, they'll only think this, but they'll be thinking it nonetheless) for a couple of hundred dollars. That's ace. General question to the assembled: Do you think the show would be better if everybody on it was a consummate musician with X years of session work on their back? I'd be interested to hear your responses.

That performance was aces! Here it is on iplayer: [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b009phy3.shtml"]http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b009phy3.shtml[/url] (iplayer is excellent!) I'm a huge radiohead fan. I've adored everything they've done since The Bends. Not trying to argue with you, Marky, but I find it weird that Pablo Honey was by the same band - to me that album seems so mediocre, like any other jangly indie rock of the time. The bends blew my head off hen I first heard it, it as like nothing else. In my opinion radiohead are the greatest band in the world at the moment.

So no love at all for Black Kids, then? The Cure meets Go Team! Yes!!!

[quote name='cheddatom' post='168537' date='Apr 2 2008, 04:32 PM']IMHO The Manics have always been up and down. The Holy Bible is on of the best albums ever created, and that means I listen more to their other stuff than I normally would. They have certainly created a lot of crap both with and without Richie.[/quote] And some with him. Damn dog is a not good song. And drug drug druggie is clearly a song about being a 'drug-smoker' by someone who has never sampled anything. On the other hand, on that very album there's La Tristessa. Holy Bible is the only album where every track's a killer. Oh wait, Revol's not great. Manics were the first band I loved and 'll never forget them, but I very rarely listen to their music any more. JDB's got a cracking voice, though. Here's some drunk Wire for ya!

[quote name='cheddatom' post='168508' date='Apr 2 2008, 02:57 PM']I'm dissapointed that my Evlis' corpse kicking up a funk joke isn't doing it for anyone. I honestly thought that might get me into the famous quotes thread. F*ck you bass chat![/quote] Glad you pinpointed the moment the Manics went a big wrong.

And it's war! Come on kids. Jazz is for some people. Elvis is for others. Subjective, innit! Some people like Elvis and Jazz. Some people like neither. Some people would like both if they made the effort. Some people never will. Hi-fives all round!