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[quote name='badboy1984' post='1231816' date='May 15 2011, 11:56 AM']which guitar? Acoustic or Electric? The electric have 3 layer, one is left, right and centre. Acoustic just one in the middle.[/quote] Electric - and thats your problem, remove the centre track and slightly boost the left and right track. The drums should only have one centre track.

[quote name='badboy1984' post='1231660' date='May 15 2011, 09:29 AM']Here is the demo of the song. [url="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7GM23AXM"]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7GM23AXM[/url] The drum and guitar don't kick in till around 2.40 ish i think. Couldn't get the distortion guitar right. So advice on the other instrument mixing would help as well By the way the song is in chinese ........ i'm still new to all this stuff ......[/quote] Doesn't sound that bad, however it sounds like the drums have been panned left to right when they should be in the middle of the mix and the guitars should be panned but are in the middle of the mix. Swap this round and it will improve it a lot I reckon.

I'm not sure what technique all you recording enthusiasts use when mixing and mastering but I use certain songs to use as a benchmark for getting my mixes to sound right. This is usually just playing them side by side and trying to get the overall feel as close as possible to a professionally mastered song. One of the tracks I use is Hard Livin' by Vinnie Stigma of Agnostic Front. What I like about this mix (apart from the great bass sound) is the fantastic guitar sound, panned wide with the drums, vocals and bass all cutting through really nicely. There's a very good drum sound on there as well. In all I think the overall mix is perfect, no mud, no weak spots at all.

mmmmmmmmmmm..... Betty Page... mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Drums sound much better. Guitars sound much improved but still not quite there. I would pan both guitars hard left and hard right - lay off the reverb on both, add slight delay to the tracks, add a bit more mids to one side. Definitely too much reverb on the guitar.

I think the Marshall DSL 201 or 401 would be a better option as it does both clean and distortion reasonably well.

[quote name='badboy1984' post='1228792' date='May 12 2011, 01:40 PM']The panning advice is good, i will certainly try it again tonight. Maybe i hoping too much on GR4 ...... should just spend the money on a small tube guitar combo instead .......[/quote] That'd be a good start - another tip is to get a valve amp of low wattage - anything from 5w to 30w for recording. You DO NOT need masses of volume for recording and for this reason, amps have now been created to drive valves at low volumes. You'd be surprised how loud 30watts sound in a home environment. A good mic to use would be an SM57 - there are better mics out there but this would be a relatively cheap option. Placement of the mic can make a lot of difference - distance from the amp too. It really is all about experimenting and seeing what it right for you sound and songs.

[quote name='badboy1984' post='1228748' date='May 12 2011, 01:18 PM']So i guess I'm wasting my time to get it right ........ unless i buy a guitar amp and mic it up to record?[/quote] Not necessarily. But I think you may be expecting too much from a digital guitar sound. if you did mic up a decent gutiar amp I think you'd get a more authentic sound. I know thats a sweeping statement but at least you'd be starting with a better source. [quote name='51m0n' post='1228749' date='May 12 2011, 01:18 PM']I cant disagree with this enough. Har dpan the crap out of guitars, multitrack them pann half all the way left and half all the way right. Keep them the hell away from the vocal at all costs! Remember the vocal is the song, the chorus is the 'money shot'....[/quote] This is another good piece of advice. Hard panning makes the whole sound bigger and lets the vocals, bass and drums shine though - it may also fix your muddy sounding guitar tracks as well. A bit of reverb and delay (not too much) will also give the guitars a much bigger and airy feel to them (we're talking distorted gutiars here). Another really important trick i learned was to make the two tracks sound slightly different - i.e. make one side sound slightly bassier than the other side. In some scenarios it enhances the pan effect. Here's an example of heavily distorted and panned guitars. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhl3ZUxZNPQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhl3ZUxZNPQ[/url]

[quote name='Bankai' post='1228561' date='May 12 2011, 11:09 AM']Emulated distortion/overdrive on guitars is very difficult to get right.[/quote] +1000 I think amp modellers / emulated distortion / digital effect distortion just sounds terrible in 99% of cases. i went through a phase of using them until I decided to mic up my 5150. Would only use digital for the very roughest of demos - certainly never for anything else.

[quote name='gafbass02' post='1226910' date='May 10 2011, 11:14 PM']Hah hah. I suspect if he started taking orders a Mr S Ball may get upset.[/quote] I wouldn't worry too much - he couldn't do anything about it !! Its a great idea - that'd look really nice on a black bass with the white writing.

Why not go for a Varitone with series switching ? If you're using a set of Quarter Pounders, the series switching will make them sound huge and perfect for punk. Easy to install to - no soldering, just screw the wires in and bob's your live in lover.

[quote name='Sibob' post='1216632' date='May 1 2011, 04:08 PM']When I eventually add the saffire pro 24 DSP into the equation, I'll be a happy bunny Si[/quote] Get one mate, they're great. Be aware though, if you want to record more than two sound sources at the same time, you'll need an expansion unit like an Octopre MkII or something. So if you're doing live drums then this is a must.

I've got the chance of picking up a bass which has supposedly USA pickups and pots installed and I'd like to know how I'd tell if they genuinely were Fender USA pups. Is there any markings or characteristics that I could check to determine ?

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[quote name='bigthumb' post='1216301' date='May 1 2011, 07:41 AM']Its suddenly changed to a fancy black 5 stringer. Looks very nice too but still expensive.[/quote] Its Australian - things are a hell of a lot more expensive there.

[quote name='51m0n' post='1213896' date='Apr 28 2011, 03:51 PM']The best bit about the headphones and 112dB thing for me is it removes the room from the equation. Not having areal monitoring space set up means that this at least gives me a definite platform to work in.[/quote] That's pretty similar to what the Focusrite Saffire 24 DSP does with its VRM (Virtual Room Monitoring) software. Its a pretty neat idea as it goes and with the right headphones you can get some really good mixes going. For headphones I'd recommend the Beyerdynamic DT880s. I've got a pair and after reading the reviews, these come in a close second to the Sennheiser HD650s for a lot less sterling.

Played through one of these and a H|H 2x15 a while back, and with the "valve sound" option switched on, it sounded bloody good I thought. For £3.70 this is an absoloute steal.

Good choice on the monitors and (you probably don't want to hear this) but where you went for the: 1 x Presonus FireStudio Project Audio Interface 1 x Rode NT 1A Mic Vocal Pack I personally I would have gone for the 1 x Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 DSP 1x Rode NT 2 Mic Vocal Pack Works out roughly the same price. Anyway, enough of that sh*t! LOL! Are you going to be recording guitar ? I would also get hold of an SM57 for cab mic'ing. I don't really buy into the using two mics (condenser and directional) for guitar cab mic'ing. I think the SM57 does the job admirably on its own. I've just set up a studio in my spare room and have recorded my bands second album in there. Quite happy with the results and of course it saves £££££ on going into a pro studio.